Is it enough with just watching your calories goal? or does it also matter what I eat?
Ruthhormachea
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When I started on here I was losing weight fast now I slowed down but I also notice that before I ate healthier and now with all the holidays I've Ben eating junk and lots of sweets but still under my calories and still doing my exercises and drinking plenty of water I gained 5 lbs over the holidays! Also does anyone know any natural body detox drink or plan?
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Maybe too much sodium consumption y making you retain water..when i detox i eat super clean for a week fruits veggies and a lot of water0
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Ruthhormachea wrote: »When I started on here I was losing weight fast now I slowed down but I also notice that before I ate healthier and now with all the holidays I've Ben eating junk and lots of sweets but still under my calories and still doing my exercises and drinking plenty of water I gained 5 lbs over the holidays! Also does anyone know any natural body detox drink or plan?
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I wouldn't worry about detoxes your body does it on its own.
Sounds like either salt/water retention or you underestimated the calories in the holiday foods. Hidden sugar or calories.
I would just give it time and get back to eating healthier.
Calories is more for weight loss
What you eat(fats, protein, carbs) is more for nutrition and health0 -
Ruthhormachea wrote: »When I started on here I was losing weight fast now I slowed down but I also notice that before I ate healthier and now with all the holidays I've Ben eating junk and lots of sweets but still under my calories and still doing my exercises and drinking plenty of water I gained 5 lbs over the holidays! Also does anyone know any natural body detox drink or plan?
Remember to be absolutely accurate when eating sweets, food scale is a must.
Usually a 5lb weight gain is a result of me eating too much sodium, so in the following days I reduce my sodium intake and consume more potassium (potatoes are a great source!).
Just to clarify for you to have gained 5lbs you would have to eaten 17500 extra calories and that is a LOT of food.
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alismommy1992 wrote: »Maybe too much sodium consumption y making you retain water..when i detox i eat super clean for a week fruits veggies and a lot of water
Stop...0 -
alismommy1992 wrote: »Maybe too much sodium consumption y making you retain water..when i detox i eat super clean for a week fruits veggies and a lot of water
Stop...
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Ruthhormachea wrote: »When I started on here I was losing weight fast now I slowed down
It's normal to lose super fast at the beginning and then slow to a normal rate. It could be sodium too, though, or adding in exercise, or the time of the month (people have different patterns).but I also notice that before I ate healthier and now with all the holidays I've Ben eating junk and lots of sweets but still under my calories and still doing my exercises and drinking plenty of water I gained 5 lbs over the holidays! Also does anyone know any natural body detox drink or plan?
Gaining 5 is either a sodium thing or flying or some other reason to retain water or possibly poor logging (easy if lots of things are hard to log accurately). Or if you were eating low carb and went higher carb that's another reason for water weight to fluctuate. All that is meaningless, as the goal is fat loss.
For weight loss calories are what matter, period, but I always recommend eating a generally healthful diet for satiety, health, and energy.0 -
Daily caloric deficit is the most important thing, however it isn't the only factor. Your macronutrient break out (carbs, fat, and protein) also matter. This means that you can still eat junk food as long as you reach your macronutrient goals. For example, if your goal is to hit 100 grams of carbs in a day, a few cookies will easily get you to 100 grams of carbs. This means that you can not eat any more carbs for that day i.e no more cookies. You can only eat calories that have protein and/or fat. This is a great tool to figure out what your macrnutrient and caloric intake should be.
http://www.iifym.com/iifym-calculator/0 -
As the posters have clarified above me, detoxing is not a magical weight loss diet. Calories in < calories out.0
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If you've been under your calorie limit, the weight gain is just water due to hormones, delayed onset muscle soreness from exercise, sodium and/or time of month (for women).
If you weigh every day, you'll see the natural fluctuations. A weight app like Happy Scale or trendweight.com will even out those fluctuations and show you your downward trend.
This is just an average month for me:
First day of shark week my weight goes up at least 1kg. I get a similar "gain" in green week.
None of this bothers me because I know I'm eating in a deficit.
A calorie is a calorie, no matter whether it's a calorie of spinach or a calorie of pizza crust. It's just a unit of energy.
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If you've been under your calorie limit, the weight gain is just water due to hormones, delayed onset muscle soreness from exercise, sodium and/or time of month (for women).
If you weigh every day, you'll see the natural fluctuations. A weight app like Happy Scale or trendweight.com will even out those fluctuations and show you your downward trend.
This is just an average month for me:
First day of shark week my weight goes up at least 1kg. I get a similar "gain" in green week.
None of this bothers me because I know I'm eating in a deficit.
A calorie is a calorie, no matter whether it's a calorie of spinach or a calorie of pizza crust. It's just a unit of energy.
Kind regards.
I'm assuming that the OP's goal is to maximize fat loss, as opposed to weight loss (fat + water + muscle). If you want to maximize fat loss, you need to make sure that you are preserving muscle by making sure your body gets the proper nutrition to rebuild after training. If you are just counting calories (and not macronutrients), your body might not be getting enough of a certain macronutrient e.g. protein for the optimal results.0 -
It is so important to eat healthy , calories are not even that important as long as you dont eat unprocessed food if you stick to lots of veggies and fruits with every meal plus your complex carbs like sweet potAto quinoa brown rice and i would recommend lots of fish . Its not the same eating a 500 kcal big mac which is fatty and has no good nutritional value with a 500 kcal superfood salad for example that has the good fats from avocado protein from quinoa fiber from all the veggies etx thah waa just an example .When you eat sweets the sugar breaks down in your body and gets stored as fat. If you eat good food you wont put on weight. A natural detox drink is adding raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to your water . Also cinnamon tea speeds up your merabolism and its full of antioxidants. Good luck0
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msblueyes91 wrote: »It is so important to eat healthy , calories are not even that important as long as you dont eat unprocessed food if you stick to lots of veggies and fruits with every meal plus your complex carbs like sweet potAto quinoa brown rice and i would recommend lots of fish . Its not the same eating a 500 kcal big mac which is fatty and has no good nutritional value with a 500 kcal superfood salad for example that has the good fats from avocado protein from quinoa fiber from all the veggies etx thah waa just an example .When you eat sweets the sugar breaks down in your body and gets stored as fat. If you eat good food you wont put on weight. A natural detox drink is adding raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to your water . Also cinnamon tea speeds up your merabolism and its full of antioxidants. Good luck
Ignore all that. Lots of good intentions mixed up with lots of bad advice.0 -
cthakkar1985 wrote: »If you've been under your calorie limit, the weight gain is just water due to hormones, delayed onset muscle soreness from exercise, sodium and/or time of month (for women).
If you weigh every day, you'll see the natural fluctuations. A weight app like Happy Scale or trendweight.com will even out those fluctuations and show you your downward trend.
This is just an average month for me:
First day of shark week my weight goes up at least 1kg. I get a similar "gain" in green week.
None of this bothers me because I know I'm eating in a deficit.
A calorie is a calorie, no matter whether it's a calorie of spinach or a calorie of pizza crust. It's just a unit of energy.
Kind regards.
I'm assuming that the OP's goal is to maximize fat loss, as opposed to weight loss (fat + water + muscle). If you want to maximize fat loss, you need to make sure that you are preserving muscle by making sure your body gets the proper nutrition to rebuild after training. If you are just counting calories (and not macronutrients), your body might not be getting enough of a certain macronutrient e.g. protein for the optimal results.
Protein is important during weight loss, yes, but the OP was worried about weight gain, which is another topic. Cheers.0 -
msblueyes91 wrote: »It is so important to eat healthy , calories are not even that important as long as you dont eat unprocessed food if you stick to lots of veggies and fruits with every meal plus your complex carbs like sweet potAto quinoa brown rice and i would recommend lots of fish . Its not the same eating a 500 kcal big mac which is fatty and has no good nutritional value with a 500 kcal superfood salad for example that has the good fats from avocado protein from quinoa fiber from all the veggies etx thah waa just an example .When you eat sweets the sugar breaks down in your body and gets stored as fat. If you eat good food you wont put on weight. A natural detox drink is adding raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to your water . Also cinnamon tea speeds up your merabolism and its full of antioxidants. Good luck
^ Second the advice to ignore that. So much woo in there it's not even worth picking apart, not one shred of good advice in the entire post. Looks like it came straight from a Dr. Oz show, except I wouldn't even expect Dr. Oz to give advice that bad.
Calories in < calories out for weight loss, it's that simple.0 -
msblueyes91 wrote: »It is so important to eat healthy , calories are not even that important as long as you dont eat unprocessed food if you stick to lots of veggies and fruits with every meal plus your complex carbs like sweet potAto quinoa brown rice and i would recommend lots of fish .
Nope. I've eaten this way for years. i ate this way while getting fat too. (I'm no longer fat, and that's about calories.)0 -
msblueyes91 wrote: »It is so important to eat healthy , calories are not even that important as long as you dont eat unprocessed food if you stick to lots of veggies and fruits with every meal plus your complex carbs like sweet potAto quinoa brown rice and i would recommend lots of fish . Its not the same eating a 500 kcal big mac which is fatty and has no good nutritional value with a 500 kcal superfood salad for example that has the good fats from avocado protein from quinoa fiber from all the veggies etx thah waa just an example .When you eat sweets the sugar breaks down in your body and gets stored as fat. If you eat good food you wont put on weight. A natural detox drink is adding raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to your water . Also cinnamon tea speeds up your merabolism and its full of antioxidants. Good luck
Wow. I'm going to go ahead and decide to believe that this is satire, because if it's not satire, then that makes me really really sad. The level of ignorance embedded in this post is unprecedented. Best way to sum it up:
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For weight loss purposes, calories are king. It's probably best to eat a variety of foods, but you don't have to eliminate any foods in order to lose weight.0
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Ack - you know some people don't know what they believe isn't scientifically accurate. They genuinely believe that stuff - mainly it's because it's what does get peddled on Dr Oz, women's mags, lunchroom banter etc. Most people when they arrive here aren't as clued up as they should be but they don't know that. They honestly believe what they are saying. I always feel a bit sad for well meaning people who get jumped on by the sarky meme brigade. I'm glad you lot all woke up knowing everything about everything.
And I KNOW people shouldn't give advice if they don't categorically know it is correct but that's the thing - people DON'T know how wrong they are. You hope that through their time here they get educated - like I was lucky enough to do. My gut reaction is a lot of them just won't come back after being roasted and will carry on with their erroneous beliefs.
Meh. I guess I want everyone to just hug it the *kitten* out. Fool that I am
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cthakkar1985 wrote: »Daily caloric deficit is the most important thing, however it isn't the only factor. Your macronutrient break out (carbs, fat, and protein) also matter. This means that you can still eat junk food as long as you reach your macronutrient goals. For example, if your goal is to hit 100 grams of carbs in a day, a few cookies will easily get you to 100 grams of carbs. This means that you can not eat any more carbs for that day i.e no more cookies. You can only eat calories that have protein and/or fat. This is a great tool to figure out what your macrnutrient and caloric intake should be.
http://www.iifym.com/iifym-calculator/
Ace calculator. Thanks for sharing.
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so much bro science in such a little thread.
you dont need to detox or change to special diets. good grief.
likely, you are holding onto sodium/water weight.
the only thing you need to do is make sure you are ACCURATELY weighing and logging your food (in grams, on a scale) and not overestimating your exercise calories if you eat them back. If you eat them back (and you should eat back some), keep it around half of what the machines or mfp tells you your burned.0 -
What you eat matters for general health. You can lose weight eating nothing but ring dings or cheezits if you are eating in a deficit. The term "detox" makes people crazy around here but there is nothing wrong with dealing with a sodium overload by following up with low sodium stuff and a bit more water than usual for a day or two.0
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msblueyes91 wrote: »It is so important to eat healthy , calories are not even that important as long as you dont eat unprocessed food if you stick to lots of veggies and fruits with every meal plus your complex carbs like sweet potAto quinoa brown rice and i would recommend lots of fish . Its not the same eating a 500 kcal big mac which is fatty and has no good nutritional value with a 500 kcal superfood salad for example that has the good fats from avocado protein from quinoa fiber from all the veggies etx thah waa just an example .When you eat sweets the sugar breaks down in your body and gets stored as fat. If you eat good food you wont put on weight. A natural detox drink is adding raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to your water . Also cinnamon tea speeds up your merabolism and its full of antioxidants. Good luck
Wow. I'm going to go ahead and decide to believe that this is satire, because if it's not satire, then that makes me really really sad. The level of ignorance embedded in this post is unprecedented. Best way to sum it up:
But I ate 2,000 calories in lettuce this morning. Isn't that better than a 2,000 calorie hamburger?
And my face is green.
So is my poop.
Isn't that how this works?0 -
Ruthhormachea wrote: »When I started on here I was losing weight fast now I slowed down but I also notice that before I ate healthier and now with all the holidays I've Ben eating junk and lots of sweets but still under my calories and still doing my exercises and drinking plenty of water I gained 5 lbs over the holidays! Also does anyone know any natural body detox drink or plan?
There's your answer. People tend to celebrate holidays with food, so gaining a little over the holiday season happens to a lot of people and isn't going to sabotage you or anything. Tighten up your logging and keep within your calorie goal and you'll be fine.msblueyes91 wrote: »It is so important to eat healthy , calories are not even that important as long as you dont eat unprocessed food if you stick to lots of veggies and fruits with every meal plus your complex carbs like sweet potAto quinoa brown rice and i would recommend lots of fish . Its not the same eating a 500 kcal big mac which is fatty and has no good nutritional value with a 500 kcal superfood salad for example that has the good fats from avocado protein from quinoa fiber from all the veggies etx thah waa just an example .When you eat sweets the sugar breaks down in your body and gets stored as fat. If you eat good food you wont put on weight. A natural detox drink is adding raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to your water . Also cinnamon tea speeds up your merabolism and its full of antioxidants. Good luck
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I have been successful by just by counting calories strictly. With a Friday cheat day and no exercise (just what I get at work) it takes longer and the scale will fluctuate....in 7 months I lost 39lbs of fat........ patience and commitment. I had "stalls" in my weight loss. But, continued and the weight continued to drop...... I can say that the "healthier" you eat the faster the weight will drop...... it happened to me........ the more cheeseburgers and pizza I ate the process slowed but it still came off because I stayed at my calorie intake goal.0
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johnboy916 wrote: »I can say that the "healthier" you eat the faster the weight will drop...... it happened to me........ the more cheeseburgers and pizza I ate the process slowed but it still came off because I stayed at my calorie intake goal.
Weight loss may have slowed due to water retention caused by the high sodium intake from more processed foods, but at the same calorie intake, true fat loss will not slow.0 -
I just track calories and have a minimum protein target, leaving carbs and fats to take care of themselves. Not found any issues with this approach.0
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Along with increased sodium making you retain more water, as mentioned by others, it's likely your junky holiday diet wasn't as plentiful in fiber. Meaning your 5 lb weight gain may partly be poop. Or poop you haven't pooped yet. Remember your scale weighs everything. Make sure your diet is plentiful in both soluble and insoluble fiber, but ramp up slowly to give your body time to adjust.0
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johnboy916 wrote: »I have been successful by just by counting calories strictly. With a Friday cheat day and no exercise (just what I get at work) it takes longer and the scale will fluctuate....in 7 months I lost 39lbs of fat........ patience and commitment. I had "stalls" in my weight loss. But, continued and the weight continued to drop...... I can say that the "healthier" you eat the faster the weight will drop...... it happened to me........ the more cheeseburgers and pizza I ate the process slowed but it still came off because I stayed at my calorie intake goal.
This is correct.
In terms of weight loss, calories matter over what you eat. I've went on McDonald's (or any fast food but McD is my go to) binges for weeks on in - having fast food up to 3-4 times a week sometimes.
1800 calorie McDonald's meal in one lunch sitting? I'm down. But it'll leave me so full and satisfied that I really don't crave or eat much the rest of the day. So I usually end the day around 2500 calories without counting exercise (not a big cardio fan).
With that in mind, I also understand what you eat is also important. But I enjoy McDonald's a lot so I give in to my cravings, but disciplined enough to keep my calories in check.
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harrybananas wrote: »johnboy916 wrote: »I have been successful by just by counting calories strictly. With a Friday cheat day and no exercise (just what I get at work) it takes longer and the scale will fluctuate....in 7 months I lost 39lbs of fat........ patience and commitment. I had "stalls" in my weight loss. But, continued and the weight continued to drop...... I can say that the "healthier" you eat the faster the weight will drop...... it happened to me........ the more cheeseburgers and pizza I ate the process slowed but it still came off because I stayed at my calorie intake goal.
This is correct.
In terms of weight loss, calories matter over what you eat. I've went on McDonald's (or any fast food but McD is my go to) binges for weeks on in - having fast food up to 3-4 times a week sometimes.
1800 calorie McDonald's meal in one lunch sitting? I'm down. But it'll leave me so full and satisfied that I really don't crave or eat much the rest of the day. So I usually end the day around 2500 calories without counting exercise (not a big cardio fan).
With that in mind, I also understand what you eat is also important. But I enjoy McDonald's a lot so I give in to my cravings, but disciplined enough to keep my calories in check.
And as long as your body receives the nutrients it needs, I see nothing wrong with this. I do the same thing. I don't have the best and healthiest diet, but I get the nutrients I need and stay in my calorie goal, so it works.0
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