The no diet diet? Is this for real?
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Literally everything we consume is a "diet". When people state they need to "diet" to lose weight, it's usually assumed they need to uptake a "certain type" of diet to lose. And as I've mentioned, one doesn't need "to diet" to lose weight.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »You don't need to diet to lose weight. You just need to eat less than you burn. Proven time and time again.
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You're right of course. ninerbuff. I honestly think the word 'diet' has become self defeating at times. I'm trying to get my blood sugars and pancreatitis under control as well as losing weight. Sometimes though, even though I've eaten less calories and carbs, It doesn't seem to help. But, I'll keep on plugging along.
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »You don't need to diet to lose weight. You just need to eat less than you burn. Proven time and time again.
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ha this was my thought exactly.
people are always saying something like, "it's not a diet! if you're dieting, you're bound to fail. all you have to do is eat fewer calories than you burn!"
lol. i call eating less food than i want- a diet.0 -
That is true. You don't have to eat "healthy food" in order to lose weight. You can eat half a hamburger instead of a huge burger or two burgers or even a huge salad and lose weight. I have been cutting my portions in half and slowly losing.0
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cleanslateplate wrote: »That is true. You don't have to eat "healthy food" in order to lose weight. You can eat half a hamburger instead of a huge burger or two burgers or even a huge salad and lose weight. I have been cutting my portions in half and slowly losing.
That's what I've been doing, too. I run and walk a lot so I feel much better on a moderate carb diet. My mom and sister did low carb and they gained the weight back, both are back to being morbidly obese and then some. I've read Atkins books for the fun of it and I'm not convinced it's really all that healthy in the long term.
Although anyone can gain weight following any diet, so there is that.0 -
So if someone was trying to gain weight, it's also assumed that they are on a diet? Again, understanding the "literal" meaning, if we were to just address it that way, then no one is really dieting. They are just eating a diet. And yes that would be correct. Of course I'm trying to address the OP and you're more than welcome to convey she's already on a diet.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Literally everything we consume is a "diet". When people state they need to "diet" to lose weight, it's usually assumed they need to uptake a "certain type" of diet to lose. And as I've mentioned, one doesn't need "to diet" to lose weight.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »You don't need to diet to lose weight. You just need to eat less than you burn. Proven time and time again.
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Some folks do. For many years folks just ate less when they "went on diet".
Using MFP to lose weight is "dieting" the verb. Aka: being on a diet.
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I once went on the Atkins diet and lost over 50 lbs. However, I also lost handfuls of hair in the shower every day. I also gained back all the weight. I want to do something I can comfortably do the rest of my life. I want to get rid of the "all or nothing" mindset. I want to eat like a normal person who doesn't constantly think about food.0
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Have you tried consulting with a registered dietician to help?judyvalentine512 wrote: »
Literally everything we consume is a "diet". When people state they need to "diet" to lose weight, it's usually assumed they need to uptake a "certain type" of diet to lose. And as I've mentioned, one doesn't need "to diet" to lose weight.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »You don't need to diet to lose weight. You just need to eat less than you burn. Proven time and time again.
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You're right of course. ninerbuff. I honestly think the word 'diet' has become self defeating at times. I'm trying to get my blood sugars and pancreatitis under control as well as losing weight. Sometimes though, even though I've eaten less calories and carbs, It doesn't seem to help. But, I'll keep on plugging along.
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I think it's important to have a mind shift when we are talking about losing weight. Why are we losing weight? So the numbers go down? Or so that our body functions how it's intended and all systems are firing correctly. I hear so much talk about eating junk to lose weight and it's all about CICO. Yes it is, but if you want to be healthy and as a result of that health weigh less, it's more complicated than CICO. It's about what you choose to eat and fuel your body with. I think it's dangerous to focus just on calories. We probably all know people who are "skinny fat" and fit into a size 2 jeans but would probably die of a heart attack if they ran a quarter mile.0
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I think it's important to have a mind shift when we are talking about losing weight. Why are we losing weight? So the numbers go down? Or so that our body functions how it's intended and all systems are firing correctly. I hear so much talk about eating junk to lose weight and it's all about CICO. Yes it is, but if you want to be healthy and as a result of that health weigh less, it's more complicated than CICO. It's about what you choose to eat and fuel your body with. I think it's dangerous to focus just on calories. We probably all know people who are "skinny fat" and fit into a size 2 jeans but would probably die of a heart attack if they ran a quarter mile.
Nobody is saying that the type of food you eat doesn't matter at all.
They are saying it doesn't matter for weight loss.
CICO for weight loss, macro/micros for health, exercise for fitness.
You CAN lose weight eating whatever you want, as long as your calories are in line.
If you are concerned about your health, you should eat more nutritious food.
If you want to be fit, you should exercise.0 -
Have you tried consulting with a registered dietician to help?judyvalentine512 wrote: »
Literally everything we consume is a "diet". When people state they need to "diet" to lose weight, it's usually assumed they need to uptake a "certain type" of diet to lose. And as I've mentioned, one doesn't need "to diet" to lose weight.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »You don't need to diet to lose weight. You just need to eat less than you burn. Proven time and time again.
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AKA a diet.
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You're right of course. ninerbuff. I honestly think the word 'diet' has become self defeating at times. I'm trying to get my blood sugars and pancreatitis under control as well as losing weight. Sometimes though, even though I've eaten less calories and carbs, It doesn't seem to help. But, I'll keep on plugging along.
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Yeah, Imwent to one(I had won a free session) and she just confused me more.. So I have an appointment next week with the Diabetes Association dietician, and she will sort things out with me. Real numbers , best foods for sugars, etc.0
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beemerphile1 wrote: »MyFitnessPal is a "no diet" "diet".
My thought as well.
Sounds like this guy may be doing some No Diet (tm) Diet, though.0 -
realityfades wrote: »Bowsergirl wrote: »Good day all. So I have a bad habit of watching Reality TV and came across "My Diet is Better Than Yours". The person clearly out in front is the oldest competitor. He is on the "No Diet Diet". He has lost 21 pounds in 2 weeks. Now before I get bashed on how unhealthy it is to lose the weight that fast or how things are staged for reality TV, the guy actually looks slimmer and healthier. He is eating a ton of healthy fats, butter in his coffee and burgers on a regular basis, [note, I did say healthy fats so please don't lecture me on what is healthy] I was just wondering if anyone has actually heard of this diet and are there any actual medical reports on how safe it is?
I watched a couple episodes of this too. I think the guy putting butter in his coffee is on the "Wild" diet, the bald guy is on the "no diet" diet. The "Wild" diet looks a lot like Paleo, which works for some people (I've never tried it, CICO works best for me).
I kind of like this show, it's a little silly and unrealistic. Some of the diets are definitely fads. I like watching weight loss shows because I think it's really interesting to see how different people carry their weight and how they look when they lose it.
I didn't like the first episode. The second one was much better, and now I'm going to keep watching because I want to know what kind of way of eating the woman who fired her trainer is going to pick. That trainer was so full of woo it was ridiculous. Talking about toxins and cleansing and only doing a liquid diet, wtf.
I kind of like the show too, mostly because it's interesting to see them put these crazy diet theories to the test. Every one of the trainers is crazy, it's annoying but fun to watch. But the show has something missing. Maybe because they didn't start as a team, but the competitions all feel like something is missing. I think the no diet plan is basically just encouraging balance and moderation which IMO is the best thing you can do. The wild diet works if the calories are low, and fat keeps you really full. Unfortunately thought I'd imagine that guy would gain a bunch of weight if he gets used to eating like that and then gives up the deficit. Not to mention the potential impact on cholesterol, triglycerides, etc. The coaches are crazy though, I can't stand the lean mommy chick!0 -
realityfades wrote: »I didn't like the first episode. The second one was much better, and now I'm going to keep watching because I want to know what kind of way of eating the woman who fired her trainer is going to pick. That trainer was so full of woo it was ridiculous. Talking about toxins and cleansing and only doing a liquid diet, wtf.
I lost my mind when that trainer suggested jumping on a trampoline to shake up the fat in the body.
Also "taskercising" would drive me crazy.0 -
So if someone was trying to gain weight, it's also assumed that they are on a diet? Again, understanding the "literal" meaning, if we were to just address it that way, then no one is really dieting. They are just eating a diet. And yes that would be correct. Of course I'm trying to address the OP and you're more than welcome to convey she's already on a diet.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Literally everything we consume is a "diet". When people state they need to "diet" to lose weight, it's usually assumed they need to uptake a "certain type" of diet to lose. And as I've mentioned, one doesn't need "to diet" to lose weight.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »You don't need to diet to lose weight. You just need to eat less than you burn. Proven time and time again.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
AKA a diet.
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Some folks do. For many years folks just ate less when they "went on diet".
Using MFP to lose weight is "dieting" the verb. Aka: being on a diet.
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Yes. I'd say they were on a weight gaining diet.
A diet is how you eat. My sister is on a low salt diet. My husband eats a vegetarian diet..... My other sister is on a calorie control diet....0
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