Macros and exercise
alexbewley55
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Hi guys, I've recently got back into the gym and dieting after a while out of it. I am 6'0" at 265Ilbs/125kg. I'm looking to drop from 30/35% body fat to 10%. Weight isn't much of a problem as will then bulk. I'm currently doing 45 mins on the treadmill burning around 700/800 kcals. I also am tracking my diet using kcals and macros. My TDEE is 3056kcals I'm struggling to hit 1800kcals consumed per day if I eat clean which leaves me in a huge deficit, so looking at average 1600kcals per day with exercise included. I'm worried that being in such a deficit is going to hold up progress and struggling getting higher macros etc, I do want quick results but not looking for overnight, looking 12/18 months to hit target. Any sooner would be great but not looking for miracles.
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If you can't meet your calorie goals while "eating clean," it's likely you're restricting too much. Have you eliminated too many calorie-dense foods from your diet?0
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Calorie dense foods include fats and oils like peanut butter, nutella. Also dates and raisins, macadamia nuts, peanuts, avocados, cheese, sausage, flax seed.0
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I'm having a fuel 10k porridge cup for breakfast, cheese and onion baguette for lunch and chicken and rice and/or veg for dinner, no snacks and only drinking water0
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Calorie dense foods include fats and oils like peanut butter, nutella. Also dates and raisins, macadamia nuts, peanuts, avocados, cheese, sausage, flax seed.
Boom, exactly. I have filled 3-4k while training quite easily. A big baked sweet potato with almond or peanut butter, fish, meat, nuts, whole avocados...yummm!0 -
alexbewley55 wrote: »I'm having a fuel 10k porridge cup for breakfast, cheese and onion baguette for lunch and chicken and rice and/or veg for dinner, no snacks and only drinking water
You have a lot of options: Add some snacks. Add a beverage with calories. Add some foods like nuts, plant oils, avocado to your meals. Have a dessert.0 -
I often eat ice cream to fill my macros. Literally, eat anything calorie dense. You've gotten some great suggestions here, but even eating minimally processed, (which I don't always do for convenience) I find it incredibly easy to eat 2800 calories on a day. I often find it hard to not overeat, especially if I'm doing long bouts of cardio. I could easily eat 5000kcal on a cardio day... and occasionally do... peanut butter is often the bane of my existence.0
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Ok thanks guys, I suppose my real question is that the low macros I am hitting, are they too low to lose body fat percentage and then when I hit desired level raise to maintenance by adding in all of the above?? Or are they too low to see results?0
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No - they are not too low. Now if it were 800, maybe....0
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What are your macros?0
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I've got a TDEE OF 3056 and am only hitting 1600 calories at best, that's after exercise of 700/800 calories burned. My diet is as above, I never feel hungry etc but don't wanna be too low if it's gunna slow down weight loss0
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alexbewley55 wrote: »I've got a TDEE OF 3056 and am only hitting 1600 calories at best, that's after exercise of 700/800 calories burned. My diet is as above, I never feel hungry etc but don't wanna be too low if it's gunna slow down weight loss
It's not going to slow down your weight loss to eat so little while exercising heavily. It's going to consume a lot of your muscle mass though. Are you wanting to lose muscle?0 -
The things that stand out to me are
Not eating enough
Your LBM will be decimated..you need to preserve it if you want a decent body composition
Shed loads of cardio but I think your burns might be over ..prob closer to 5-600 if at 4mph
Where's your protein
Where's your progressive resistance programme
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Macros = protein, carbs, and fats
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Proteins 232g carbs 232g and fats 52g but am not hitting them. I don't want to lose Lean body mass which is why I'm asking the question, I am struggling to hit the macros eating clean and wholesome. I don't want to thrown random junk in, just stopped a mild red bull addiction lol (2-3 cans a day). Any idea on hitting targets without consuming a *kitten* ton of sugar, tonight is cheat meal and dominos have me well over today but that's 1 cheat every 2 weeks.0
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Apologies also I train 5 times a week minimum broken into 45 mins cardio and weight training for 45 mins, 10 reps 3 sets per exercise minimal rests between sets and splits like this:
Day 1: Chest and Triceps
Day 2: Back and Biceps
Day 3: Shoulders
Day 4: Legs
Day 5: Abs/core
Sometimes I'll train 7 days and do one big session on each individual group per day0 -
alexbewley55 wrote: »Proteins 232g carbs 232g and fats 52g but am not hitting them. I don't want to lose Lean body mass which is why I'm asking the question, I am struggling to hit the macros eating clean and wholesome. I don't want to thrown random junk in, just stopped a mild red bull addiction lol (2-3 cans a day). Any idea on hitting targets without consuming a *kitten* ton of sugar, tonight is cheat meal and dominos have me well over today but that's 1 cheat every 2 weeks.
What do you term clean and wholesome
Full fat dairy, beef, home made fries, nuts, avocados, stir fries with olive oil, cheese, vegetables roasted, fried
Perhaps it's time to widen your repertoire of foods ...to hit your calorie goals once you've hit your macro and micro nutrients ...nothing wrong with ice cream, cakes, cookies, chocolates, chips etc
Why do you think pizza is junk ...carbs, protein, fats ...meh ..you have the calories and it can help you hit your macros. I think you're being unduly tough on yourself for no real reason
Your protein should be around 170 minimum and your fats 92g at minimum amounts for your size0 -
alexbewley55 wrote: »Proteins 232g carbs 232g and fats 52g but am not hitting them. I don't want to lose Lean body mass which is why I'm asking the question, I am struggling to hit the macros eating clean and wholesome. I don't want to thrown random junk in, just stopped a mild red bull addiction lol (2-3 cans a day). Any idea on hitting targets without consuming a *kitten* ton of sugar, tonight is cheat meal and dominos have me well over today but that's 1 cheat every 2 weeks.
As I said above, people who struggle to hit their calories goals eating "clean and wholesome" are usually restricting too much. You've eliminated too many foods from your life. There is no reason why pizza should be limited to a "cheat meal." You need fat and protein daily and pizza has those. Your body uses carbohydrates every day. Pizza has those.
You don't have to throw in "random junk." You will need to figure out some calorie dense foods to include in your diet.0 -
I'm going against the crowd here, as I am apt to do... lol. My suggestion is just eat MORE. Add a meal or two. Have oatmeal twice a day. Eat 12oz of chicken at a sitting instead of six. Cook your eggs with some butter; use the yolks.
As mentioned above, you may need to increase fat. At about 170 pounds, my intake is 47g fat per day which is almost the same as yours. However, there's no reason to eat pizza or poptarts if you're following a more traditional bodybuilding diet, which it seems like you're trying to do.0 -
I'm going against the crowd here, as I am apt to do... lol. My suggestion is just eat MORE. Add a meal or two. Have oatmeal twice a day. Eat 12oz of chicken at a sitting instead of six. Cook your eggs with some butter; use the yolks.
As mentioned above, you may need to increase fat. At about 170 pounds, my intake is 47g fat per day which is almost the same as yours. However, there's no reason to eat pizza or poptarts if you're following a more traditional bodybuilding diet, which it seems like you're trying to do.
Eating more of what he's currently eating may work, but if the foods he is eating are filling him so much that he's struggling to eat 1,800 a day, increasing portion sizes may not work.0 -
I get what your saying guys and I think your right, maybe I'm being far too strict on myself, I had a knee reconstruction 3 years ago and piled on weight I'm desperate to shift, if I hit 180g protein 180g carbs and 80g fat would this be more beneficial to my weight loss as opposed to my current very strict diet? Also would carbs be better from starch sources rather than sugar?0
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Protein shakes?0
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Carbs included in the abovementioned typical bodybuilder's diet are going to be all kinds of vegetables, oats, brown rice, and sweet potatoes0
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