Keto/ Bulletproof diet

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Hello, I have been dabbling with a ketogenic diet and just started reading about the Bulletproof diet and would like and feedback or to become friends with others that are doing this kind of lifestyle. I am not sure how some foods such as apples fit in this program if they can. I would appreciate any help or ideas on foods to eat for breakfast.I didn't realize that eggs had carbs and that has been on my frequent breakfasts. I would love to lose 80lbs and so far this way of eating seems to help me. Thanks for any help

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  • nicintime
    nicintime Posts: 381 Member
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    I would suggest joining the Low Carber Daily Forum. Wide group, pretty inclusive, usually someone willing to help.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
  • Sarah4fitness
    Sarah4fitness Posts: 437 Member
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    One does not dabble with Keto.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    Eggs have no carbs on labels in the UK, if there are any the amount is trivial compared to the fats and proteins.

    Apples have a limited role in a ketogenic diet, what with the sugars being a bit anti-ketogenic and all that. If you're well established in ketosis and active you can eat an apple for example when out for a walk and it'll do no harm.
  • juliegrey1
    juliegrey1 Posts: 202 Member
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    Sorry now for the ignorant question but isint ketosis starvation!! Am I picking this up wrong?
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    juliegrey1 wrote: »
    Sorry now for the ignorant question but isint ketosis starvation!! Am I picking this up wrong?

    Ketosis is the body living off of ketones produced due to small amounts of carbs being ingested; the ketones can be broken down to glucose for brain function.

    What is this bulletproof diet? I've only heard of bulletproof coffee, which isn't a diet, it's a drink that some LCHF people drink (although apparently the original is yak milk or butter in coffee, which I doubt most people actually drink).
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    newmeadow wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    butter in coffee, which I doubt most people actually drink

    If you join Low Carber Daily Forum you'll see people actually do drink this. Lots of people. Lots of butter.
    I was referring to *yak* butter. I would assume most people cannot buy that.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    What is this bulletproof diet? I've only heard of bulletproof coffee, which isn't a diet, it's a drink that some LCHF people drink (although apparently the original is yak milk or butter in coffee, which I doubt most people actually drink).

    http://www.bulletproofexec.com/start-the-bulletproof-diet/ at a guess
  • ladipoet
    ladipoet Posts: 4,180 Member
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    juliegrey1 wrote: »
    Sorry now for the ignorant question but isint ketosis starvation!! Am I picking this up wrong?

    Nope, definitely not starvation. Not even close. I follow a Keto WOE and I've never eaten better (healthier) or enjoyed eating more in my entire life (and I'm still losing weight!).
  • LadyDaria
    LadyDaria Posts: 6 Member
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    I actually run a BP diet page on FB. I am never hungry the fat keeps me full. Yes we use grass fed butter in coffee with MCT Oil during the morning hours. I lost 30 lbs and love this way of eating. No sugar or grains or other dairy other than butter. it is more than a low carb program. no beans or dairy. One used other fats instead and nut flours for when one eats a treat. Some white rice or sweet potato is ok once in awhile or berries only late in the day actually and not nightly. I want to be in ketosis but you don't have to be. You can have a fruit or a healthy carb if one wants and it does not mess you up. You let go of the foods that cause inflammation in the body for better health. Hope this helps.
  • dhyon06
    dhyon06 Posts: 4 Member
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    To All -

    Im new to this app but have recieved positive feedback and so far its been very useful and easy to track calorie & nutritonal data.

    In any event - I have participated in the bulletproof / ketogenic diet overall for 6-7weeks aggressively within the first 2 weeks than have tapered it down on a moderate approach for the remaining 4-5 weeks by having a "Carb" day or two depending on my cravings, appetite, mood, etc (Generally Sat & Sun)

    I started at 226 pounds and down to 206. But now I am having difficulty going below 200 where my target goal is 185pounds by end of Spring ( Noticed the plateau for the past two weeks). I have used a pesonal trainer for the last month and doing full body workouts / HIIT type routines once a week (He does not recommend Keto for his program) while continuing to do compound exercises twice a week using a Pryamid progression specifically by increasing heavier weights. I have divided upper body on one day and lower body for another other.

    Keep in mind I rarely do cardio because I just simply hate it but I'm starting to consider doing HIIT Jumproping by doing 6 sets of 30 seconds intense jumproping followed by a 30 seconds regular jump roping follwed by 1 minute stretching than starting the next set if I don't see any further results from the Bulletproof / Keto plan.

    Upper Body Routine:
    Chest:
    - Incline Bench 5 x 5 sets and reps for 245Pounds
    - Dips 5 x 6-8
    Back:
    - Lat Pull Downs 4 x 8 or 10 x 140pound
    - Seated Rows 4 x 10 x 140pounds
    - Pull ups 5 x 6 no weights
    Shoulders:
    - Barbell Milt Press 5x5x 115 Pounds
    - Plate Bus Driver Raises 4x10X45Pound Plate
    - Reverse Lat Raises 4x10x20 Pound Dumbell

    Lower Body Routine:
    - Deadlift 4x6-8x 205pounds
    - Squat 5x6x185 - 205 pounds
    - Kettle Bell Swing 4x15x 40 pound kettle bell
    - Squat Jumps 4x10

    I do not want to go back on full keto / bulletproof dieting because during the aggressive stages I suffered through major gastroic and stomach issues that kept lingering until I refed on Carbs. It was an uncomfortable cycle, keep in mind I have incorporated intermittent fasting below is a general outline of what I would eat Mon-Fri, when I would eat...

    Meal Plan | Aggressive Keto / Bulletproof:
    - 7AM -2PM - Bulletproof Coffee, 1 Tbsp Kerrygold Butter + 1 Tbsp Coconut Oil + 2 cups French Pressed Coffee + 1 TBSP of Heavy Cream
    - 2PM First Meal, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs (two pieces) + Sauteed Kale or Arugula Salad or Asparagus.
    - Xtend Amino during workout 1 scoop if I'm training
    - 7-8PM Dinner, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs + Salad or Kale, or Asparagus.
    - Note for all cooking I would use 1TBSP of Kerrygold Butter and 1 TBSP of Coconut Oil alot of sea salt and Olive Oil uncooked just over a salad very liberally 2-4TBSP.

    Meal Plan | Moderate Keto / Bulletproof:
    - 7AM -12PM - Bulletproof Coffee, 1 Tbsp Kerrygold Butter + 1 Tbsp Coconut Oil + 2 cups French Pressed Coffee + 1 TBSP of Heavy Cream.
    - 1PM First Meal, 1 Cups of Total Fage Full Fat Greek Yogurt + 1/2 Cup of Blueberry + 1 TBSP Oraganic Honey + 1 TBSP of Caco Powder + 1 Scoop of Eat the Bear Whey Protein w/ Water.
    - 2-3PM First Meal, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs (two pieces) + Sauteed Kale or Arugula Salad or Asparagus. Or Chipotle Bowl, No Beans, No Rice, No Sour Cream, Just All Scoops of Meats + Veggies + Guacaomole (Optional depending on mood. very rare I pack a lunch)
    - Xtend Amino during workout 1 scoop if I'm training
    - 7-8PM Dinner, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs + Salad or Kale, or Asparagus.
    - 9-10PM Optional 1 Scoop of Whey + 1 Cup of Whole Milk + 1 TBSP Almond / Peanut Butter (If I'm hungry)
    - Note for all cooking I would use 1TBSP of Kerrygold Butter and 1 TBSP of Coconut Oil alot of sea salt and Olive Oil uncooked just over a salad very liberally 2-4TBSP.

    Above is a typical meal that I would eat without calculating amount I would use my eye and will be very liberal with veggies and meats - This did lead to alot of stomach and GI problems when I would not have carbs like yogurt, protein shake, whole milk, etc.

    Based on all the info above, what am I do wrong? Am I over-training? Am I not eating enough? Any smart and effective input would be great - I modeled this way of eating while listening to Dom Dagostino, Tim Ferris, Dave Asprey's book, Charles Paloquin... My trainer thinks its a fad diet, I have seen energy levels increase along with congitive function but stomach issues defintely plagued my ability to continue and I can't imagine this being a great protocal for long term use.

    Again my goal is to gain lean muscle mass, decrease body fat, reduce cardio input (I used to do 40minute on stairmaster with minimal results and felt miserable) and be able to eat wihtout cravings and crashes.

    Kindest Regards,

    -Danny