Bulgarian Method/HIHF training

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  • ovidnine
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    McCloud33 wrote: »
    @ovidnine How much time are you resting between your singles?

    Between 90-120 seconds on average I'd say but I should actually check.

    I do a set, set up plates for next set, walk a circuit around the weight area which takes 20-30 seconds, then reset myself on the bench take a few deep breaths and go.
  • ovidnine
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    Checked my rest and I was right on my guesstimate. :)

    Felt pretty good today. Got plenty of sleep. Didn't get a chance to lift yesterday as I took my wife to the airport and forgot to pack any of my gym gear to lift after work. I could've gone home and back out, but no, that doesn't happen. lol

    My plan is Saturday to do some sort of high volume squatting. Maybe just a bunch of reps at 60% or something to see how it feels.

    Anyway:

    Bench:
    135x10
    155x8
    165x5
    170x4
    175x3
    180x3
    185x3
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    205x1
    200x1
    195x1
    190x2
    190x2


    I'll admit the last 190 rep wasn't exactly pretty but 3 total reps of >200 felt pretty good. I'm still amazed by how not sore I've been through this whole thing. Sure there's some, but stretching helps and by the time I'm done with my warmup sets its pretty much completely gone.
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,404 Member
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    Nice progress!
  • ovidnine
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    jmule24 wrote: »
    Nice progress!

    Thanks! Its been kinda fun and its really helped me mentally & physically with my bench.

    I think I'll do this again next winter around this time but ramp up faster and only run it for 5 weeks tops.
  • ovidnine
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    Its Friday.

    Its bench day.

    Also jogged today, everything felt good so definitely going to try squats tomorrow and see how that goes.

    Bench:
    135x10
    155x7
    165x5
    170x4
    175x3
    180x3
    185x2
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    205x1
    195x1
    185x2
    185x2


  • ovidnine
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    I skwaated again!!!! Yay! It felt good. Not used to doing so many reps/set. That was sorta sad but anyway

    Squat
    135x10
    155x10
    165x15
    165x10
    165x10
    165x10

    Bench
    135x10
    155x7
    165x5
    170x3
    175x2
    180x2
    185x2
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    190x2

    Was tired today a little bit. Mostly due to squatting before benching which obviously I haven't been doing all week. 165 is 60% of my max so its not much weight, just haven't been squatting for high reps in a couple months and not used to doing it.

    Another full week left to go on this little journey. Its been fun.
  • ovidnine
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    Morning all. Was a bit sore from all the squats Saturday but worked it out. Now I'm sore from the squats today. lol

    Squat
    135x10
    155x10
    185x7
    205x5
    215x3
    225x3
    235x2
    245x2
    250x1
    255x1
    260x1
    265x1 (i'll admit it wasn't the prettiest but since my previous 1rm was 275 i'll take it)
    245x2

    Bench
    135x10
    155x7
    165x5
    170x4
    175x3
    180x2
    185x2
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    2x190x2
    190x1


    Definitely a bit sore in my shoulders but still according to my tracker my daily max is right about 200lb average. Not shabby for me.

    Looking forward to wrapping this up this week, testing my PRs next week. Then vacation, then back to a normal program.
  • ovidnine
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    Yesterday night totally pigged out. I'd like to believe that helped me this morning. Was feeling a bit sore from yesterday and kind of assumed that today wasn't gonna be all that great. I was wrong. It's nice being wrong like that.

    Squat:
    135x10
    155x10
    185x7
    205x5
    215x4
    225x4
    235x3
    245x1
    255x1
    260x1
    265x1
    270x1
    255x2

    Bench:
    135x10
    155x7
    165x5
    170x4
    175x3
    180x3
    185x2
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    205x1
    195x2
    200x1
    205x1
    195x2
    195x1


    I really wanted to try 275 on squat but 270 was really slow so I didn't. Got to 205 didn't think I had enough for 210. Dropped back to 195x2 and it went up nicely so I said screw it and built back up to 205. I think I could've had 210 and wish I'd gone for it. Ah well.



  • ovidnine
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    Yeah, so I might've worked a little hard yesterday. I was asleep before 8:15 and sore as hell today. My shoulders were sore pretty much the entire time benching. lol

    Squat:
    135x10
    155x10
    185x7
    205x5
    215x4
    225x3
    235x2
    245x1
    255x1
    260x1
    255x1
    255x1
    245x2

    Bench:
    135x10
    155x7
    165x4
    175x3
    180x3
    185x2
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1

    Did 5 sets of wide grip cable rows 120x10 to finish things off.

    Needless to say, I was worn today. lol Didn't do any dropback sets. Got to 200 said "yup, that's good" and called it.
  • ovidnine
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    Someone was actually using the squat rack this morning so I had to bench first. :| lol It was all good, he was doing some decent front squats so it wasn't being wasted. Bit tired and sore this morning but more for bench than squats. This is my last week of doing this. Testing some maxes next week and then vacation for a week and back to my regular routine.

    Bench:
    135x10
    155x8
    165x5
    175x4
    180x3
    185x3
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    190x2
    190x2

    Squat:
    135x10
    155x10
    185x7
    205x4
    225x3
    235x3
    245x1
    255x1
    260x1
    265x1
    270x1
    250x2
    250x2

    The 2x250x2 at the end wasn't bad. Heck, the 270 wasn't bad. It wasn't like I popped up, but the hitch in the movement wasn't terrible and I worked through it fine. Apparently my body is getting used to lifting "heavier" which is good. My shoulders still sort of wonder WTF I'm doing to them though. lol

  • ovidnine
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    Final full bore day of this. Probably gonna do some light work tomorrow and Monday and Tuesday try for some PRs. Next Friday I leave on vacation for a week and then back to a more normal routine.

    Squat:
    135x10
    155x10
    185x7
    205x5
    215x3
    225x3
    235x2
    245x1
    255x1
    260x1
    265x1
    270x1
    255x2
    255x2

    Bench:
    135x10
    155x7
    165x5
    175x3
    180x3
    185x3
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    205x1
    210x1 ^%#*#%!@$%*%@ YES!
    2x190x2
    190x1

    Got 210 up cleanly with no spotter. On a Friday. After lifting heavy all week. feelsgoodman.jpg lol

    That's a new PR for me so I'm interested to see what I can do when fresher.
  • McCloud33
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    ovidnine wrote: »
    Final full bore day of this. Probably gonna do some light work tomorrow and Monday and Tuesday try for some PRs. Next Friday I leave on vacation for a week and then back to a more normal routine.

    Squat:
    135x10
    155x10
    185x7
    205x5
    215x3
    225x3
    235x2
    245x1
    255x1
    260x1
    265x1
    270x1
    255x2
    255x2

    Bench:
    135x10
    155x7
    165x5
    175x3
    180x3
    185x3
    190x1
    195x1
    200x1
    205x1
    210x1 ^%#*#%!@$%*%@ YES!
    2x190x2
    190x1

    Got 210 up cleanly with no spotter. On a Friday. After lifting heavy all week. feelsgoodman.jpg lol

    That's a new PR for me so I'm interested to see what I can do when fresher.

    Good luck! Looks like you've made some good progress!
  • ovidnine
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    Thanks! I've sorta eaten like a pig this week too which probably hasn't hurt things. lol
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,404 Member
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    You can now say you bench three plates..... :D (45/35/2.5)
  • ovidnine
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    jmule24 wrote: »
    You can now say you bench three plates..... :D (45/35/2.5)


    WOO HOO!!

    rofl

  • jmule24
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    ovidnine wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    You can now say you bench three plates..... :D (45/35/2.5)


    WOO HOO!!

    rofl

    I'm stuck at 205 currently so I know your feelings!!!!!
  • ovidnine
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    jmule24 wrote: »
    ovidnine wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    You can now say you bench three plates..... :D (45/35/2.5)


    WOO HOO!!

    rofl

    I'm stuck at 205 currently so I know your feelings!!!!!

    You'll bust through it!


    Light day today.

    Squat:
    135x10
    155x10
    165x10

    Front Squat:
    2x135x7

    Bench:
    135x10
    145x10
    155x9

    Paused Bench: (F' these things lol )
    3x165x2
    175x2

    Then some pullups, seated cable rows, pulldowns.

    Monday mostly light again working up to the lower end of heavy for me to prep for Tuesday's max testing.
  • ovidnine
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    Final day: The Reckoning.

    Didn't even bother tracking yesterday, just light stuff to work out the kinks and some soreness for testing maxes today.

    Previous PRs: Squat 270 (sometime in December) Bench 205 (back in August)

    Started with Squat
    135x5
    155x5
    185x3
    205x3
    225x2
    245x1
    260x1
    270x1
    290x1
    300x1 PR!!!!!!
    305x1 Pf'ingR!

    Then to bench. Self spotted in squat rack, no help with liftoffs.
    135x7 (short stroked)
    155x3
    175x2
    185x1
    195x1
    205x1
    215x1 PR
    220x0 Lifted off no problem, got to chest and nu-uh.

    So, it was a good morning in the gym to say the least. I wanted to try for 3 plates on squats but knowing I still had benching left I decided to call it. Not sure I could've done it anyway. 305 was hard, but not a total "OMG form going to hell I want to die" grind. Just happy to have the 300 barrier out of the way.

    Bench, the reason I did this whole thing, went well. Benching in the power rack I never feel I have the exact right positioning. Still, got 215 up with good form. It was slow, but form was good. 220 I think I was just mentally done at that point. I'd already hit 3 PRs for the day and just wasn't in the "zone." Anymore. That's ok, 2 plates is within reach.

    I'm happy with my results and my chest and legs are bigger than when I started as well. I really should've measured things first. ah well.

    Thoughts on Bulgarian Manual:

    I've enjoyed doing this HI/HF lifting for the past couple of months. I'd suggest this program to someone looking for a 4-6 week break in their program who wants to really focus on going heavy without destroying themselves. Granted "heavy" is relative but throughout the program I was surprised but how sore I wasn't. I honestly expected to feel lots worse than I did and it wasn't bad.

    I do think getting enough rest is a major part of this. If you have a schedule where you aren't getting a solid amount of good sleep every single night I think you'd get beat up pretty bad trying this.

    I plan on doing this again probably next winter around this time and I'll do a few things differently. The ramp-up will be a lot shorter. I did "The Fire Rises" approach fully for bench and accelerated for squats and realized I could've done the accelerated for bench too.

    Second, I'll also do it for less time overall. This has stretched over about 2 full months (there were 2 breaks 1 for holidays and 1 for a minor prodecure). While you theoretically can do this for as long as you like I think I'd condense it to 4-6 weeks max for me.

    Finally, I'll start doing dropback sets earlier. I didn't at first because I just wasn't sure how my body would react. Now I know I can do more dropback sets and yes, this will increase soreness and need more recovery, but it could be managed.

    I plan on squatting a whole lot more than I used to after this. If not every day, almost every day. It won't always be high/low bar back squats, but there will be more squatting in my life.

    I also don't hate the bench as much as I used to. I had some success at mentally conquering it and I have some plans of attack to continue to build my strength overall.

    I will say I'm looking forward to getting back to my normal routine again. lol

    Here's Greg and Omar talking to a couple of guys who are WAAAAY stronger than me who'd been running it. Thanks for to all who followed along and chimed in with support!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRm8rPMWgA



  • McCloud33
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    very nice! been fun following your progress.
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,404 Member
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    Great job! It was fun to follow.