Lurking a facebook discussion, what would you say to this person?
MiniChef_Kriss
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So i have been lurking this conversation between a couple people on a facebook page for a couple days, i thought i would share it and ask, if this was you talking to this person, what would you say to them? Do you agree with them? Would you give them a shake? lol I am interesting to know the opinions! The comments are between someone named Tara and Tammy, Tara is the one talking about not counting calories, to lose weight. i finally piped in at the end as you can see. lol but interested to hear everyones thoughts on the snippets of conversation
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I'd say, "Dammit, I forgot to buy the mini muffins at Target today!" True story.
I'd probably also chime in with my losing a whole thin person by counting calories and by knowing that's how I'll hopefully keep it off.0 -
I think they make a good point about chemicals, real food and sugar. I would agree with them on those points. Your body will work more effectively if you eat real foods and you will be less likely to get health conditions like cancer in the future. I read somewhere that you should drink organic milk, because regular milk has growth hormones in it, from trying to make cows as big as possible and has the same effect on humans. I'm not sure if that's true, but if it is, wow- scary! There's lots of stuff though like artificial sugar makes you crave real sugar. You should be careful about what you put into your body.
Counting calories is great, if its done properly. You can fill your body with 2000 calories with a small amount of junk and not feel satisfied and meet your nutritional needs, or you can fill your body with 2000 calories of natural goodness. Its up to you. I know what I would prefer.0 -
I'd say 'different strokes for different folks' and let it go at that.0
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I generally don't respond at all to derp. Let them think what they want.0
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Calories are literally units of energy...How can energy have nothing to do with metabolism?!?!
"Metabolism - Biology, Physiology. the sum of the physical and chemical processes in an organism by which its material substance is produced, maintained, and destroyed, and by which energy is made available."It's ALL about energy!!
Are all the processed foods and chemicals good for us? probably not....but red meat is linked to cancer...and that's a pretty "natural" food...so it is what it is.
"Adipose tissue, or fat, is an anatomical term for loose connective tissue composed of adipocytes. Its main role is to store energy in the form of fat, although it also cushions and insulates the body." Fat is energy storage...if you use your energy (calories)...then you won't have any to store...it's as simple as that.
Calories in, Calories out...everything else is just noise in terms of weight loss.0 -
There's so much woo and derp in there I wouldn't even want to start. Too much cardio.0
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I probably wouldn't say anything. But, if I were to say something, I would bring up the fact that I have been eating whole foods, for the most part nothing "packaged," etc for 15 years. I also thought it was all about the food, not the quantity. Still, I got to be, at my highest, 60 lbs heavier than I am at present. Now, with keeping track of CICO I have a better understanding of food, and I am nearing a sustainable healthy weight. But, since she doesn't need to change her mind, she is not going to. I would be wasting my time.0
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It used to be back when food was food hahahah...... I wouldn't respond... that one there is in la-la land.0
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I would apologize for taking something they posted for friends, a conversation I'm apparently not even party to, and posting it elsewhere for strangers to comment on and mock. Then I would unfriend myself.0
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Docbanana2002 wrote: »I would apologize for taking something they posted for friends, a conversation I'm apparently not even party to, and posting it elsewhere for strangers to comment on and mock. Then I would unfriend myself.
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I couldn't even respond to that derp. Really, so there were never, ever any fat people back when "food was food"? She totally lost me when she first claims that we store "bad food" as fat, but then we can only digest "good food." Um, a body can't store undigested food. That's what the poop shoot is for.0
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Docbanana2002 wrote: »I would apologize for taking something they posted for friends, a conversation I'm apparently not even party to, and posting it elsewhere for strangers to comment on and mock. Then I would unfriend myself.
Yeah, Im gonna post something on the internet and be mad cause its on the internet???0 -
I'd back out slowly. Too much derp. But I like your reply too.0
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The fact is, no matter how you lose the weight, over 80% of the people that lose, gain it back within 5 years. Some gain back even more weight than they lost. My maintenance goal is to make it over 5 years. Two years and 3 months on maintenance, and I have lost over 1/2 of my current body weight using MFP and counting calories. Seems to be working for me so far. No foods eliminated. Moderation and portion control in all foods.0
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Yeesh. I would just say I hope your reach is minimal since you go around spewing misinformation about food and physiology.
If she can see the convo then she is friends with one of them or it is on a public post. The internet is not a private place.
ETA: The overuse of "ever" in her post would be enough for me to bow out. LOL.0 -
"Hi, I'm Leanne, I've lost 28lb counting calories and I've kept every pound off for 2 years, while eating sweets everyday! Nice to meet you"0
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So i have been lurking this conversation between a couple people on a facebook page for a couple days, i thought i would share it and ask, if this was you talking to this person, what would you say to them? Do you agree with them? Would you give them a shake? lol I am interesting to know the opinions! The comments are between someone named Tara and Tammy, Tara is the one talking about not counting calories, to lose weight. i finally piped in at the end as you can see. lol but interested to hear everyones thoughts on the snippets of conversation
I would ignore it unless I was asked my thoughts directly. At that point, I would say weight loss is about calories so calorie counting is very helpful proven tool for losing weight or maintaining. This is not a rational discussion though. This is a person who believes something easily proven false and doesn't want to hear facts or differing opinions. I would leave them to their delusional "real food" eating plan.
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Unless the comments were directed at me on my wall/feed, or I was specifically tagged/asked for input...
Not my circus, not my monkeys.0 -
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I would just comment with a pic of me in a bikini stuffing my face with Pizza.0
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time2cutnow wrote: »I would just comment with a pic of me in a bikini stuffing my face with Pizza.
That's how I end most conversations.0 -
Anybody with this many food rules is a person that I, personally, would not even try to engage in food-related conversation. If put on the spot, I'd pick one point and pound it with the hammer of science until it cracked. If I was in a contrary mood (50% probability) I'd then pick one other point and repeat until bored.0
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I wouldn't touch that conversation with a ten foot pole.0
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Heck I don't even comment on my Facebook friends who are convinced that they need to go low carb to lose weight, so I wouldn't even bother with that one.0
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time2cutnow wrote: »I would just comment with a pic of me in a bikini stuffing my face with Pizza.
^ I like this idea.
I rarely comment on things on facebook. Mostly just lurk and if I stumbled across this there would probably be a few facepalms and some laughing.0 -
I rarely engage with people like that. They obviously don't science if they think calories have nothing to do with metabolism and their life choices seem to be working for them. I just giggle to myself at the woo and move on with my life. For the record I've lost a quarter of my body weight and maintained for a year now by counting and I don't feel degraded by sitting there with my calculator. But if they want to eat the food that doesn't have the big words they can't pronounce, I will eat it for them in reasonable, counted portions.0
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MiniChef_Kriss wrote: »
So i have been lurking this conversation between a couple people on a facebook page for a couple days, i thought i would share it and ask, if this was you talking to this person, what would you say to them? Do you agree with them? Would you give them a shake? lol I am interesting to know the opinions! The comments are between someone named Tara and Tammy, Tara is the one talking about not counting calories, to lose weight. i finally piped in at the end as you can see. lol but interested to hear everyones thoughts on the snippets of conversation
They are stubborn, and they are wrong. Your comment was perfect. Every bit of weight I have lost, has been done via counting calories, as it is with most people. Lots of stubborn fools around...way too many of them unfortunately. :-)0 -
Personally, I do track calories but having said that, I think it's a valid point that it's not only about CICO but about the type of food you eat.
If I have a high protein breakfast like bacon and scrambled eggs I feel satiated for hours and hours.
If I have a sugary muesli, I want to eat again in half an hour. That aside, I think the concern about additives is also valid. You see a lot of microwaveable ready meals and then you see what's actually in them. *shudder*0
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