vegetarian noob question

hokagenoob
hokagenoob Posts: 78 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
Are quest bars and protein powder lacto-vegetarian friendly? Sorry, new to this for 2 weeks now, having major headaches so guessing I'm lacking my protein intake. Any suggestions? Thanks fit fam I appreciate it!
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  • First thing I would check for headache is water intake. It might be that you are slightly dehydrated. And just water- not juice or drinks- but just pure water
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    edited February 2016
    I don't think headaches mean lack of protein, probable either lack of water or you ate a lot of junk before and now you don't, like when you quit caffeine and you go through withdrawls
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    But if you want more protein, try vega one protein powder. 20g protein per serving. The mocha flavour is great
  • BunnyBomb
    BunnyBomb Posts: 143 Member
    edited February 2016
    Agree it's probably dehydration but if your worried about protein levels stay away from whey protein it's animal milk based, ergo not vegetarian lacto friendly.

    I use MRM Veggie Protein powder as a top up to meet my macro goals. It's completely organic and made of a balanced mixture of plant based protein sources, to aid consistent absorption. Plus it tastes great :smile:
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    BunnyBomb wrote: »
    Agree it's probably dehydration but if your worried about protein levels stay away from whey protein it's animal milk based, ergo not vegetarian lacto friendly.

    I use MRM Veggie Protein powder as a top up to meet my macro goals. It's completely organic and made of a balanced mixture of plant based protein sources, to aid consistent absorption. Plus it tastes great :smile:

    Lacto-vegetarians *do* consume milk, so whey protein would be something they would include in their diet.
  • hokagenoob
    hokagenoob Posts: 78 Member
    BunnyBomb wrote: »
    Agree it's probably dehydration but if your worried about protein levels stay away from whey protein it's animal milk based, ergo not vegetarian lacto friendly.

    I use MRM Veggie Protein powder as a top up to meet my macro goals. It's completely organic and made of a balanced mixture of plant based protein sources, to aid consistent absorption. Plus it tastes great :smile:

    Lacto-vegetarians *do* consume milk, so whey protein would be something they would include in their diet.

    So meaning quest bars are a yes?
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    hokagenoob wrote: »
    BunnyBomb wrote: »
    Agree it's probably dehydration but if your worried about protein levels stay away from whey protein it's animal milk based, ergo not vegetarian lacto friendly.

    I use MRM Veggie Protein powder as a top up to meet my macro goals. It's completely organic and made of a balanced mixture of plant based protein sources, to aid consistent absorption. Plus it tastes great :smile:

    Lacto-vegetarians *do* consume milk, so whey protein would be something they would include in their diet.

    So meaning quest bars are a yes?

    I am not familiar with the ingredients of Quest bars, but *if* the only animal product in them is whey protein, then they would be suitable for lacto-vegetarians.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    Vegetarians only avoid meat so I doubt there is meat in protein bars. You're probably safe.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    Vegetarians only avoid meat so I doubt there is meat in protein bars. You're probably safe.

    There may be gelatin, though (not sure if they actually do, but it's worth checking)
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    Vegetarians only avoid meat so I doubt there is meat in protein bars. You're probably safe.

    There may be gelatin, though (not sure if they actually do, but it's worth checking)

    I got curious, so I Googled. No gelatin.

    OP, it looks like these bars are appropriate for lacto-vegetarians.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    Vegetarians only avoid meat so I doubt there is meat in protein bars. You're probably safe.

    There may be gelatin, though (not sure if they actually do, but it's worth checking)

    I got curious, so I Googled. No gelatin.

    OP, it looks like these bars are appropriate for lacto-vegetarians.

    What is a lacto vegetarian? Because vegetarians eat dairy without the extra label needed
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    Vegetarians only avoid meat so I doubt there is meat in protein bars. You're probably safe.

    There may be gelatin, though (not sure if they actually do, but it's worth checking)

    I got curious, so I Googled. No gelatin.

    OP, it looks like these bars are appropriate for lacto-vegetarians.

    What is a lacto vegetarian? Because vegetarians eat dairy without the extra label needed

    It's a way to identify a vegetarian who eats dairy but may not eat other animal products. A lacto-ovo vegetarian eats dairy and eggs. My default assumption would be that someone who identifies as a lacto-vegetarian wouldn't eat eggs.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    I'm sorry lol but maybe it's just me I think all the labels are ridiculous. Vegan and vegetarian is the only ones that you need. Why bother putting further labels on yourself.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    I'm sorry lol but maybe it's just me I think all the labels are ridiculous. Vegan and vegetarian is the only ones that you need. Why bother putting further labels on yourself.

    Perhaps if you're looking for information about ingredients in foods? You know, the entire point of this thread.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    I'm sorry lol but maybe it's just me I think all the labels are ridiculous. Vegan and vegetarian is the only ones that you need. Why bother putting further labels on yourself.

    If you were planning a meal for someone (or offering them advice on whether or not a certain protein bar will fit their dietary needs), it would be helpful to know what they do and don't eat. Why is it ridiculous to have a way to refer to someone who doesn't eat meat and eggs but does eat dairy? There are situations where this information would be useful.

    It's not like she's introducing the label in a discussion where it isn't germane. If she just asked "Can I eat Quest bars?" without providing the information, nobody would know what she was asking or what to tell her.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    I'm sorry lol but maybe it's just me I think all the labels are ridiculous. Vegan and vegetarian is the only ones that you need. Why bother putting further labels on yourself.

    Perhaps if you're looking for information about ingredients in foods? You know, the entire point of this thread.

    Then say you're a vegetarian who doesn't eat (blank) people get so confused what all these labels mean, and often times they spread misinformation. I had a friend tell me that vegans eat fish. No need to make it so complicated.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    I'm just saying to me it seems silly, but call yourself what you want, to each his own.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    I'm sorry lol but maybe it's just me I think all the labels are ridiculous. Vegan and vegetarian is the only ones that you need. Why bother putting further labels on yourself.

    Perhaps if you're looking for information about ingredients in foods? You know, the entire point of this thread.

    Then say you're a vegetarian who doesn't eat (blank) people get so confused what all these labels mean, and often times they spread misinformation. I had a friend tell me that vegans eat fish. No need to make it so complicated.

    In this instance, OP has chosen the best and most accurate term for how she eats, a term that allows people to offer her helpful advice. And instead you want her to use "vegetarian," something that make it harder for people to help her as it includes people who eat foods that she avoids (eggs).

    Someone identifying as a lacto-vegetarian has nothing to do with why some people think vegans eat fish.

    Some people think vegans eat fish because some people who self-identify as vegans eat fish. In this instance, having better ways to describe certain restrictions (and having people use them consistently) would actually *help*. Getting rid of useful terms that describe dietary restrictions or limiting people to using just "vegetarian" or "vegan" -- what you're advocating -- would make the problem worse.

    Simple: I'm a lacto-vegetarian.
    More complicated: I'm a vegetarian who does eat dairy but doesn't eat eggs.

    Not that there is anything wrong with people using either method, but I'm honestly perplexed as to why you think the simplest solution is actually making things more complicated.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    Just my opinion, like I said call yourself what you want. To ME it seems complicated. To each his own.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    edited February 2016
    And I didn't mean to say that the op should call themselves a vegetarian, just that I didn't know what a lacto vegetarian was so I didn't realize there are vegetarians who eat dairy but not eggs. So I think the reason it seems more complicated to me is that not everyone will know what a lacto vegetarian is, or possibly the other labels people use.
  • skbrodie
    skbrodie Posts: 81 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    And I didn't mean to say that the op should call themselves a vegetarian, just that I didn't know what a lacto vegetarian was so I didn't realize there are vegetarians who eat dairy but not eggs. So I think the reason it seems more complicated to me is that not everyone will know what a lacto vegetarian is, or possibly the other labels people use.

    A lot of people know these terms, surprisingly. It's also not that hard to look it up if you really don't know. It's much easier to add the labels in when you are looking for advice.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    But if someone has to look it up it doesn't seem so simple lol.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    But if someone has to look it up it doesn't seem so simple lol.

    There are lots of words that have to be looked up by people who don't know them. It doesn't mean everyone should avoid using those words to make things simpler.
  • Melmo1988
    Melmo1988 Posts: 293 Member
    Well I'll just agree to disagree :)
  • hokagenoob
    hokagenoob Posts: 78 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    And I didn't mean to say that the op should call themselves a vegetarian, just that I didn't know what a lacto vegetarian was so I didn't realize there are vegetarians who eat dairy but not eggs. So I think the reason it seems more complicated to me is that not everyone will know what a lacto vegetarian is, or possibly the other labels people use.

    No problem! People all start somewhere, so it's fine it you didn't know the term, the good thing is that now you do, thanks for the advice!
  • hokagenoob
    hokagenoob Posts: 78 Member
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    I'm sorry lol but maybe it's just me I think all the labels are ridiculous. Vegan and vegetarian is the only ones that you need. Why bother putting further labels on yourself.

    If you were planning a meal for someone (or offering them advice on whether or not a certain protein bar will fit their dietary needs), it would be helpful to know what they do and don't eat. Why is it ridiculous to have a way to refer to someone who doesn't eat meat and eggs but does eat dairy? There are situations where this information would be useful.

    It's not like she's introducing the label in a discussion where it isn't germane. If she just asked "Can I eat Quest bars?" without providing the information, nobody would know what she was asking or what to tell her.

    Prefix "lacto" is pretty clear for anyone to understand, but its fine guys we all learn! Thanks so much for helping me out on me question! I guess its time to stock up on quest bars:)
  • angelexperiment
    angelexperiment Posts: 1,917 Member
    Hi there I found this article called animal ingredients in vegetarian foods on feasibility.com it goes into further detail so Check it out but here's what I got:

    These are what you should look for on food labels:

    Albumin- proponent of egg white
    Anchovies- fish
    Animal shortening-butter, suet, lard
    Calcium stearate- mineral from cow/hog
    Capric acid-(decanoic acid) animal fat
    Clarifying agent-animal based
    Gelatin/gelatins- protein from bones/cartilage
    Isinglass- gelatin from fish bladder
    Lanolin-sheep waxy fat
    Lard- pork fat
    Lutein- egg yolk
    Myristic acid- animal fats
    Pancreatin- cow/hog
    Pepsin-enzyme from pig stomache
    Rennin/rennet-enzyme from calf stomach
    Stearic acid-tallow/animal fat
    Suet- hard animal fat
    Whey- by product of cheese making process coming from rennet

    You will have to read the labels very carefully now if avoiding egg. Some labels will say: contains or manufactured on equipment with trace amounts of nuts/ wheat/ milk/ eggs/ soy or otherwise will say : contains no egg/ dairy/ soy/ gluten on some products.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Hi there I found this article called animal ingredients in vegetarian foods on feasibility.com it goes into further detail so Check it out but here's what I got:

    These are what you should look for on food labels:

    Albumin- proponent of egg white
    Anchovies- fish
    Animal shortening-butter, suet, lard
    Calcium stearate- mineral from cow/hog
    Capric acid-(decanoic acid) animal fat
    Clarifying agent-animal based
    Gelatin/gelatins- protein from bones/cartilage
    Isinglass- gelatin from fish bladder
    Lanolin-sheep waxy fat
    Lard- pork fat
    Lutein- egg yolk
    Myristic acid- animal fats
    Pancreatin- cow/hog
    Pepsin-enzyme from pig stomache
    Rennin/rennet-enzyme from calf stomach
    Stearic acid-tallow/animal fat
    Suet- hard animal fat
    Whey- by product of cheese making process coming from rennet

    You will have to read the labels very carefully now if avoiding egg. Some labels will say: contains or manufactured on equipment with trace amounts of nuts/ wheat/ milk/ eggs/ soy or otherwise will say : contains no egg/ dairy/ soy/ gluten on some products.

    Generally the "trace amounts" warning is for people with allergies, not vegetarians/vegans.
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  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited February 2016
    Melmo1988 wrote: »
    Vegetarians only avoid meat so I doubt there is meat in protein bars. You're probably safe.

    Epic, Julian Bakery, Bulletproof, Wild Zora, Tanka, Bricks, Fori, Wilde, and Steve's Paleogoods bars are the only ones to be concerned about. Most of them are clearly labeled.
    Hi there I found this article called animal ingredients in vegetarian foods on feasibility.com it goes into further detail so Check it out but here's what I got:

    These are what you should look for on food labels:

    Albumin- proponent of egg white
    Anchovies- fish
    Animal shortening-butter, suet, lard
    Calcium stearate- mineral from cow/hog
    Capric acid-(decanoic acid) animal fat
    Clarifying agent-animal based
    Gelatin/gelatins- protein from bones/cartilage
    Isinglass- gelatin from fish bladder
    Lanolin-sheep waxy fat
    Lard- pork fat
    Lutein- egg yolk
    Myristic acid- animal fats
    Pancreatin- cow/hog
    Pepsin-enzyme from pig stomache
    Rennin/rennet-enzyme from calf stomach
    Stearic acid-tallow/animal fat
    Suet- hard animal fat
    Whey- by product of cheese making process coming from rennet

    You will have to read the labels very carefully now if avoiding egg. Some labels will say: contains or manufactured on equipment with trace amounts of nuts/ wheat/ milk/ eggs/ soy or otherwise will say : contains no egg/ dairy/ soy/ gluten on some products.

    Generally the "trace amounts" warning is for people with allergies, not vegetarians/vegans.

    Yeah, seconded. I have a few food allergies, and the trace amounts tend to be so insignificant that I'm not bothered by it (unless it's dealing with cashews or food coloring).

    I believe OP also avoids eggs (not that it matters for Quest bars, just clarifying).
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