So tired
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Yes you can get vitamin D from the sun but I live in Norway, it is winter and I am not outside in hours of daylight. If you are walking outside in daylight for an hour per day, you are probably not deficient in vitamin D, but it wouldn't hurt to check.0
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Whitezombiegirl wrote: »Couple if ideas:
1. seasonal affective disorder - get a light box.
2. Post viral fatigue syndrome. My husband has this. He was midly ill before xmas and hasnt been able to get over it. I had it years ago. If you are in the uk, it seems that a lot of people have had this virus and pvf recently. No cure - just wait it out.
3. Additional stress can reawaken herpes virus ( if you have ever had chicken pox or shingles) which can cause fatigue but no real other symptoms.
Personally i would eat at maintainance and get more rest for a month. And get a light box. In the uk John lewis sells them.
What's seasonal affective disorder? And what's a light box? Hahaha
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yes, Vitamin D is sometimes called the Sunshine Vitamin however it's surprisingly easy to NOT get enough from sun exposure. A lot of skin has to be exposed, with no sunscreen, for quite a bit of time, to come close.
ETA: and if you have dark skin, or live in more northern areas, it is even harder.
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yes, Vitamin D is sometimes called the Sunshine Vitamin however it's surprisingly easy to NOT get enough from sun exposure. A lot of skin has to be exposed, with no sunscreen, for quite a bit of time, to come close.
Think we can check that off then. In my province we have sunshine for 90% of the year (semi-dessert type land), and in summer temperatures can reach up to 46celcius. (Not recommended to walk in those temps, but I do walk when the sun isn't so hot yet, or after its cooled down slightly.)
Typically I would walk half an hour between 9-10am, and then for another half hour between 3-4pm. The sun is at its hottest here from 12-2pm.
ETA: my skin's pretty white, although slightly tanned for obvious reasons.
Let's put it this way, when I'm walking outside, I burn slightly, not enough to hurt, my skin turns slightly red. I tan slowly over time.0 -
QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Whitezombiegirl wrote: »Couple if ideas:
1. seasonal affective disorder - get a light box.
2. Post viral fatigue syndrome. My husband has this. He was midly ill before xmas and hasnt been able to get over it. I had it years ago. If you are in the uk, it seems that a lot of people have had this virus and pvf recently. No cure - just wait it out.
3. Additional stress can reawaken herpes virus ( if you have ever had chicken pox or shingles) which can cause fatigue but no real other symptoms.
Personally i would eat at maintainance and get more rest for a month. And get a light box. In the uk John lewis sells them.
What's seasonal affective disorder? And what's a light box? Hahaha
sad is lack of vitamin D. The light box emulates daylight. Mine is called lumie zip and cost about £ 35. Id also try a liquid iron supplement ( tablets can be constipating). Im also looking into how gut bacteria can be altered by artificial sweetners ( not stevia) so i have cut out all sugar free and have added a probiotic.0 -
Whitezombiegirl wrote: »QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Whitezombiegirl wrote: »Couple if ideas:
1. seasonal affective disorder - get a light box.
2. Post viral fatigue syndrome. My husband has this. He was midly ill before xmas and hasnt been able to get over it. I had it years ago. If you are in the uk, it seems that a lot of people have had this virus and pvf recently. No cure - just wait it out.
3. Additional stress can reawaken herpes virus ( if you have ever had chicken pox or shingles) which can cause fatigue but no real other symptoms.
Personally i would eat at maintainance and get more rest for a month. And get a light box. In the uk John lewis sells them.
What's seasonal affective disorder? And what's a light box? Hahaha
sad is lack of vitamin D. The light box emulates daylight. Mine is called lumie zip and cost about £ 35. Id also try a liquid iron supplement ( tablets can be constipating). Im also looking into how gut bacteria can be altered by artificial sweetners ( not stevia) so i have cut out all sugar free and have added a probiotic.
Oh okay. I don't use artificial sweeteners anyhow. Don't like the taste. Especially the taste of stevia. It's got this weird aftertaste. I'd rather use plain'ol sugar if I do use it at all. As you can see my menu doesn't really need it. Bananas are sweet, yoghurt is sweet, fruit spread is sweet (yet naturally so).
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QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Could try opening your diary for a quick review of food choices
I don't log anymore because the numbers make me obsessive. But I did use the app to plan out a menu to stick to. Here's the menu (I stick to this daily because I enjoy routine)
Breakfast: 60g rolled oats, half cup almond milk, 22 grams of fruit spread (24 calories p serve)
Snack: half a banana
Lunch: cooked food (can vary between 400-600 calories depending on the meat) and 150grams of vegetables with 30-60g cheese melted over (more cheese if food has less calories)
Snack: 100g low fat yoghurt (98calories), or 30g almonds
Dinner: 2 large eggs/100g chicken thigh with 150g-ish potato.
I do weigh my food and make sure I stay in the ratios. I tend to eat the same things anyway on a monthly basis.
Couple things that seem somewhat confusing to me:
Two weeks of logging was enough to make you feel obsessive?
You seemed so sure of your totals but you... don't actually log. You really could be coming in way too low on either calories or a certain macro and not know it. Hopefully your plan to add some snacks helps. Good luck!0 -
QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Could try opening your diary for a quick review of food choices
I don't log anymore because the numbers make me obsessive. But I did use the app to plan out a menu to stick to. Here's the menu (I stick to this daily because I enjoy routine)
Breakfast: 60g rolled oats, half cup almond milk, 22 grams of fruit spread (24 calories p serve)
Snack: half a banana
Lunch: cooked food (can vary between 400-600 calories depending on the meat) and 150grams of vegetables with 30-60g cheese melted over (more cheese if food has less calories)
Snack: 100g low fat yoghurt (98calories), or 30g almonds
Dinner: 2 large eggs/100g chicken thigh with 150g-ish potato.
I do weigh my food and make sure I stay in the ratios. I tend to eat the same things anyway on a monthly basis.
Couple things that seem somewhat confusing to me:
Two weeks of logging was enough to make you feel obsessive?
You seemed so sure of your totals but you... don't actually log. You really could be coming in way too low on either calories or a certain macro and not know it. Hopefully your plan to add some snacks helps. Good luck!
I've used mfp before to lose weight. I logged and weighed food for a year. Then stopped. I still remember everything. When I look at a banana I don't see a banana, I see 109 calories. Haha
My recipes obviously have their calories worked out by the app, and I know how many grams a serving is. So while I don't see the calories, I still weigh out the correct portion to eat of each thing.
It's like a diet plan now. You see what you should eat and how many grams, but you don't see the calories.0 -
QueenofHearts023 wrote: »QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Could try opening your diary for a quick review of food choices
I don't log anymore because the numbers make me obsessive. But I did use the app to plan out a menu to stick to. Here's the menu (I stick to this daily because I enjoy routine)
Breakfast: 60g rolled oats, half cup almond milk, 22 grams of fruit spread (24 calories p serve)
Snack: half a banana
Lunch: cooked food (can vary between 400-600 calories depending on the meat) and 150grams of vegetables with 30-60g cheese melted over (more cheese if food has less calories)
Snack: 100g low fat yoghurt (98calories), or 30g almonds
Dinner: 2 large eggs/100g chicken thigh with 150g-ish potato.
I do weigh my food and make sure I stay in the ratios. I tend to eat the same things anyway on a monthly basis.
Couple things that seem somewhat confusing to me:
Two weeks of logging was enough to make you feel obsessive?
You seemed so sure of your totals but you... don't actually log. You really could be coming in way too low on either calories or a certain macro and not know it. Hopefully your plan to add some snacks helps. Good luck!
I've used mfp before to lose weight. I logged and weighed food for a year. Then stopped. I still remember everything. When I look at a banana I don't see a banana, I see 109 calories. Haha
My recipes obviously have their calories worked out by the app, and I know how many grams a serving is. So while I don't see the calories, I still weigh out the correct portion to eat of each thing.
It's like a diet plan now. You see what you should eat and how many grams, but you don't see the calories.
Oh ok, your previous use explains it.
That's one issue with diet plans, though. People have mentioned plugging in numbers for diets like slimming world, military diet or even weight waters and noticing sub 1000 calorie days. It seems you're carefully planning to not do that but I just thought I'd mention something I found a bit confusing0 -
QueenofHearts023 wrote: »QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Could try opening your diary for a quick review of food choices
I don't log anymore because the numbers make me obsessive. But I did use the app to plan out a menu to stick to. Here's the menu (I stick to this daily because I enjoy routine)
Breakfast: 60g rolled oats, half cup almond milk, 22 grams of fruit spread (24 calories p serve)
Snack: half a banana
Lunch: cooked food (can vary between 400-600 calories depending on the meat) and 150grams of vegetables with 30-60g cheese melted over (more cheese if food has less calories)
Snack: 100g low fat yoghurt (98calories), or 30g almonds
Dinner: 2 large eggs/100g chicken thigh with 150g-ish potato.
I do weigh my food and make sure I stay in the ratios. I tend to eat the same things anyway on a monthly basis.
Couple things that seem somewhat confusing to me:
Two weeks of logging was enough to make you feel obsessive?
You seemed so sure of your totals but you... don't actually log. You really could be coming in way too low on either calories or a certain macro and not know it. Hopefully your plan to add some snacks helps. Good luck!
I've used mfp before to lose weight. I logged and weighed food for a year. Then stopped. I still remember everything. When I look at a banana I don't see a banana, I see 109 calories. Haha
My recipes obviously have their calories worked out by the app, and I know how many grams a serving is. So while I don't see the calories, I still weigh out the correct portion to eat of each thing.
It's like a diet plan now. You see what you should eat and how many grams, but you don't see the calories.
Oh ok, your previous use explains it.
That's one issue with diet plans, though. People have mentioned plugging in numbers for diets like slimming world, military diet or even weight waters and noticing sub 1000 calorie days. It seems you're carefully planning to not do that but I just thought I'd mention something I found a bit confusing
It's a bit odd to myself too so I understand. I have some issues when it comes to it. I tend to always want to be under my limit if I see the number. I want the green number to be more. That sets me up for failure and is obviously unhealthy.
But once I take it away and leave just the grams that issue seems to dissappear. Not sure why it happens like that, but it does.
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QueenofHearts023 wrote: »QueenofHearts023 wrote: »QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Could try opening your diary for a quick review of food choices
I don't log anymore because the numbers make me obsessive. But I did use the app to plan out a menu to stick to. Here's the menu (I stick to this daily because I enjoy routine)
Breakfast: 60g rolled oats, half cup almond milk, 22 grams of fruit spread (24 calories p serve)
Snack: half a banana
Lunch: cooked food (can vary between 400-600 calories depending on the meat) and 150grams of vegetables with 30-60g cheese melted over (more cheese if food has less calories)
Snack: 100g low fat yoghurt (98calories), or 30g almonds
Dinner: 2 large eggs/100g chicken thigh with 150g-ish potato.
I do weigh my food and make sure I stay in the ratios. I tend to eat the same things anyway on a monthly basis.
Couple things that seem somewhat confusing to me:
Two weeks of logging was enough to make you feel obsessive?
You seemed so sure of your totals but you... don't actually log. You really could be coming in way too low on either calories or a certain macro and not know it. Hopefully your plan to add some snacks helps. Good luck!
I've used mfp before to lose weight. I logged and weighed food for a year. Then stopped. I still remember everything. When I look at a banana I don't see a banana, I see 109 calories. Haha
My recipes obviously have their calories worked out by the app, and I know how many grams a serving is. So while I don't see the calories, I still weigh out the correct portion to eat of each thing.
It's like a diet plan now. You see what you should eat and how many grams, but you don't see the calories.
Oh ok, your previous use explains it.
That's one issue with diet plans, though. People have mentioned plugging in numbers for diets like slimming world, military diet or even weight waters and noticing sub 1000 calorie days. It seems you're carefully planning to not do that but I just thought I'd mention something I found a bit confusing
It's a bit odd to myself too so I understand. I have some issues when it comes to it. I tend to always want to be under my limit if I see the number. I want the green number to be more. That sets me up for failure and is obviously unhealthy.
But once I take it away and leave just the grams that issue seems to dissappear. Not sure why it happens like that, but it does.
Could always set your goal to a higher # like 1900 or even something way higher, while more or less ignoring it. Always green and you'll have your numbers0 -
I think it might be the time of year - I haven't changed anything about my routine or schedule or eating habits and since New Years I just feel like crap, and I can't seem to get it together.
Lots of people have this. It can also be a sign of iron or Vitamin B12 (I think - don't quote me on it) deficiency in conjunction with vitamin D deficiency from not being outside/getting enough sun light.0 -
QueenofHearts023 wrote: »Could try opening your diary for a quick review of food choices
I don't log anymore because the numbers make me obsessive. But I did use the app to plan out a menu to stick to. Here's the menu (I stick to this daily because I enjoy routine)
Breakfast: 60g rolled oats, half cup almond milk, 22 grams of fruit spread (24 calories p serve)
Snack: half a banana
Lunch: cooked food (can vary between 400-600 calories depending on the meat) and 150grams of vegetables with 30-60g cheese melted over (more cheese if food has less calories)
Snack: 100g low fat yoghurt (98calories), or 30g almonds
Dinner: 2 large eggs/100g chicken thigh with 150g-ish potato.
I do weigh my food and make sure I stay in the ratios. I tend to eat the same things anyway on a monthly basis.
On this amount of food i would be not only tired, I would be in bed all day.
When i ate 1200 calories a day for a couple of months ( NET) I ate more like you have here
Were are you veggies and fruits?
Maybe the calories is around that 1200 0r 1300 But there is not much food ( so nutrition there) Specially when you also exercise. Or are more active than you think
I see a lot of people suggesting causes also like Thyrod
but i really think it is your food intake specially because you already answered me that it started after you changed your diet.
So the cause must be in that...Not enough food or nutrition or maybe you cut out coffee or something else what you normally ate.
But best thing to do is up your calorie intake a bit to see if it goes better try 150 calories first. And when it doesnt go better see a doctor get some lab work done.
Now when it is indeed not enough food and you say already eat much and i lose only 1 lbs...think of this. Better losing a half pound a week and have enough food to keep on track. Because for sure when you dont eat enough and feel bad..you wont stick to your diet and will fall of the wagon.
So better a smaller deficit and feeling good ( which will indeed mean you lose slower) than quitting
That is my humble opinion
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+1 to others' ideas, but I want to add another possibility, from personal experience.
I admit, I'm much older than you are, but I found I had some fatigue problems when starting a weight training routine while in calorie deficit. It's not necessarily where one wants to go as a long-term strategy, but it helped me to add some calories (protein), cut back to 2X a week for a while, and to slow the progression of reps/sets/weight for a while also - waiting to progress until new volume got semi-comfortable, as opposed to shifting upward as soon as I could possibly execute with good form.
Before you write this off as totally a li'l ol' lady problem: I'd weight trained regularly in the past, and have been very active (rowing, spin class, cycling) for a dozen years, so this wasn't an off-the-hook crazy addition to my exercise levels. And I eat back all my exercise calories (estimating them conservatively).
Also, it's possible that you and/or MFP are under-estimating your calorie deficit: 2 weeks is not really long enough to have sufficient personalized data to be sure. I'm 3 inches taller than you, but 12 pounds lighter, and relatively recently was still losing 0.5 pounds/week at 1500-1600 net (before adding more calories as I try to find maintenance) . . . and I'm 60 years old, and hypothyroid (well controlled with meds). I'm not claiming special snowflake-hood, but MFPs calculations are based on averages, and there's always some individual variation around the average.0 -
I have been feeling unusually tired for the past few weeks myself. Then I realised that I had not taken my usual daily multivitamin for the past 6-8 weeks or so. Went to the store and got a new bottle and started taking it over the weekend and am feeling much more energetic already. I also notice that I have been sleeping better. Not more, just better.
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