Eating calories from steps walked

mamahope2020
mamahope2020 Posts: 4 Member
edited November 29 in Health and Weight Loss
Hello!! I have an app on my phone that tracks my daily steps. My goal is 10,000 but I usually take about 6,000 steps. I am a female, 5'9", I have around 100 lbs to lose overall. I weigh 267 and am trying to lose 1.5 lbs per week. In order to lose 1.5 lbs per week my daily calorie limit is 2040. My question is .....should I allow my phone to sync these daily steps and eat those extra calories every day? My first instinct is no, but I'm wondering if anyone has experience with this and could offer advice? Other than walking around a lot at work, I currently am not getting any extra exercise.
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  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    I wouldn't sync them. Not from 6000 steps. Treat it as a hidden bonus.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Your activity level that you select when setting up MFP is going to include quite a bit of that...even a sedentary setting accounts for up to about 5,000 steps per day. If anything I'd just adjust my activity level to reflect my actual daily activity and those steps.
  • Expatmommy79
    Expatmommy79 Posts: 940 Member
    I would say no.

    On days where you do purposeful walking - like power walking or treadmill then I might add those back.

    I get about 180 calories for 10,000 steps...
  • mamahope2020
    mamahope2020 Posts: 4 Member
    Thanks everyone. I do have my activity level set to lightly active, so that should cover 10,000 steps. It's interesting that you get 180 calories for 10,000 steps. Yesterday I got 435 calories for 8458 steps.
  • biscuitnow
    biscuitnow Posts: 141 Member
    I always get around 400 calories for 10 000 steps. I have my activity level set to sedentary since it tends to differ a lot from day to day, so I feel free to eat some of those calories back if I'm hungry.
  • jesse1952
    jesse1952 Posts: 68 Member
    I track my steps also. I have a daily goal of doing 10,500. MFP does adjust the amount of calories you can eat that day.
  • blues4miles
    blues4miles Posts: 1,481 Member
    MFP has something called negative calorie adjustment if you sync them. It will remove calories from your day if you don't get your minimum steps in. I prefer to set to sedentary and add activity to be on the safe side. But then, I don't eat my exercise calories. I eat at TDEE - 20%. So Total Daily Energy Expenditure minus 20%. My BMR is ~1650 but my TDEE as sedentary is ~1950. So I eat at 80% of 1950.
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
    It will depend on your activity level setting. Here's an example.

    Lets say based on your stats (this is hypothetical, I don't know your stats) sedentary would burn 2500 and lightly active would burn 2800. If you tell MFP you're lightly active it will base your daily calories on 2800, tell you to eat 2050 for 1.5 pounds per week. If you're actually sedentary and eat 2050, then your deficit is only 450 for almost 1 pound per week.

    The key is to set your activity level accurately. You could sync your phone step counter, just to get a better idea if your activity level is reasonable. If you sync and the step adjustment is almost always 0, it means you're not as active as you set your level to be, so you're not burning as much as MFP expects. If you're usually earning some small adjustment, your level is set accurately. If you often earn a big adjustment your activity level is set too low.

    You can of course also judge by results. If you're accurately logging/eating at MFP's recommended amount and lose weight about 1.5 pounds per week your activity level is set correctly. Slower means your activity level may be too high. Of course, you would need 1-3 months of data to judge from weight loss results.
  • mamahope2020
    mamahope2020 Posts: 4 Member
    Good point, Stacimarie. I'm just now starting my journey (literally today!!) so it will be a while until I see results.
  • jeepinshawn
    jeepinshawn Posts: 642 Member
    It will depend on your activity level setting. Here's an example.

    Lets say based on your stats (this is hypothetical, I don't know your stats) sedentary would burn 2500 and lightly active would burn 2800. If you tell MFP you're lightly active it will base your daily calories on 2800, tell you to eat 2050 for 1.5 pounds per week. If you're actually sedentary and eat 2050, then your deficit is only 450 for almost 1 pound per week.

    The key is to set your activity level accurately. You could sync your phone step counter, just to get a better idea if your activity level is reasonable. If you sync and the step adjustment is almost always 0, it means you're not as active as you set your level to be, so you're not burning as much as MFP expects. If you're usually earning some small adjustment, your level is set accurately. If you often earn a big adjustment your activity level is set too low.

    You can of course also judge by results. If you're accurately logging/eating at MFP's recommended amount and lose weight about 1.5 pounds per week your activity level is set correctly. Slower means your activity level may be too high. Of course, you would need 1-3 months of data to judge from weight loss results.

    Great explanation of how this works! The only thing I would add is that you need to have negative calories enabled if your activity level is anything other than sedentary. That way you don't over eat. I would sync your step counter, I have my fitbit sync'd and 10K steps usually nets me about 457 calories.
  • pchca
    pchca Posts: 31 Member
    I went thru this struggle for almost a month. What works for me is not syncing MFP to any activity tracker (I have a Fitbit). I set MFP to sedentary, and usually log 12k steps a day. I eat 1200-1400 calories a day, regardless of how many steps I take. Have similar stats as you and that's what works for me. I lose about 2lbs a week
  • lemonlionheart
    lemonlionheart Posts: 580 Member
    Thanks everyone. I do have my activity level set to lightly active, so that should cover 10,000 steps. It's interesting that you get 180 calories for 10,000 steps. Yesterday I got 435 calories for 8458 steps.

    That sounds pretty high. I estimate about 150 calories for 10000 steps, but since they say that anything up to 5000 is 'sedentary' I only log steps that go above that (e.g if I do 12000 steps I'll log 7000).
  • trjjoy
    trjjoy Posts: 666 Member
    edited February 2016
    Please read this article.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ladyhawk00/view/activity-level-and-logging-exercise-125513

    ''What you log should be ANYthing that burns significantly (100-200+) more calories than are accounted for in your Activity Level setting. This means logging a 10 minute walk, light cleaning for 30 minutes, cooking for 45 minutes, etc., IS appropriate for a Sedentary Activity Level. Someone set at Active or Very Active, and some Lightly Active, generally shouldn't log them, because those “little” things are already accounted for and a fit person burns far less calories for the same activity. For someone who is very sedentary (often those who are obese or morbidly obese but not always), just walking to the mailbox, doing dishes or laundry, or a trip to the grocery store IS a strenuous activity that burns significant calories – and those calories aren't accounted for at a Sedentary Activity Level. ''
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    This is exactly why I set myself to Sedentary and let my Fitbit do the rest. I know I'm active, but I never want to change my activity level since days can vary.
  • sarahq81
    sarahq81 Posts: 35 Member
    I set mine to sedentary and add them manually if the walk is an hour or more. I only get 1200 cals so I need them to eat 3 decent meals!!
  • brendak76
    brendak76 Posts: 241 Member
    I don't have my steps enabled because it drove me crazy to have my calories change on a daily/hourly basis. Instead I set my activity level to lightly active. I don't add my 30 minute walk to and from work, walking around the school (I work at a high school), light yoga, or daily cleaning and chores. I consider that all part of the lightly active lifestyle. However, I do add back all exercise calories I burn at the gym for running and weights and more intense and intentional exercise.
  • Marcus_2015
    Marcus_2015 Posts: 119 Member
    I say no...not at all. Walking is great but this should be built in to your basic activity level.

    Even from regular exercise you should not eat all of your calories back... This science is very fuzzy... There are significant errors in every estimation.

    If you have enough energy and are not super hungry, there is no reason to eat back to make a magic number... Especially if you have a lot of weight to lose. I weightlift and on those days I eat more, but not one for one...

    After a few weeks, if you lose more than two pounds per week, adjust your calories up.

    R
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    edited February 2016
    brendak76 wrote: »
    I don't have my steps enabled because it drove me crazy to have my calories change on a daily/hourly basis.

    I didn't like that either. Changing the Fitbit food plan from Personalized to Sedentary fixes this. My calories used to bounce up and down before I changed it and now I get nothing but steady increases since I'm set as sedentary everywhere but I'm quite the opposite.

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  • QuilterInVA
    QuilterInVA Posts: 672 Member
    We normally get in steps with normal daily activity. That is not exercise, that's living. Exercise is steps intentionally taken that aren't a part of normal daily activity. You really don't burn much walking.
  • AngelinaB_
    AngelinaB_ Posts: 563 Member
    I am using them but only if I get reslly hungry. Sometimes I eat them all. The fact I am gaining all those calories if I walk is a great motivator to do my steps. I have been very sedentary due to an injury for the past two years so it's working great for me. I am feeling great and the normal lose rate for me is about one pound per week even though I set this to two. I don't want it to be more than one tho it's working and I am more into building healthy relationships with food and a change of lifetime than "dieting". Try and see what works for you. Cheers,
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    With 100 lbs. to lose I think you could go either way. You'll lose faster without 'eating back' but if having more calories motivates you to move more, that's a good thing overall. But if you're eating 2500ish with 6000 steps, I'd be a little surprised if you achieved your 1.5 lbs/week loss goal, too. Good luck!
  • TriciaSmith2015
    TriciaSmith2015 Posts: 66 Member
    I typically don't eat the calories from my synced steps. I listed myself as moderately active when I signed up for MFP, and I believe that there is an allowance of extra calories for that distinction.
  • williams969
    williams969 Posts: 2,528 Member
    edited February 2016
    We normally get in steps with normal daily activity. That is not exercise, that's living. Exercise is steps intentionally taken that aren't a part of normal daily activity. You really don't burn much walking.

    Really? I walk an average of 7 miles daily. Half of that is "lifestyle", meaning doing errands, walking kids to school, housework. The other half is a purposeful "exercise" walk. I earn an extra 500-700 calories daily for all of that walking, which I gladly eat, since the scale reflects I lose as predicted by eating them. I would call that significant burns.
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    I had to get up over my 'norm' to see loss. As I suspected I was already at about 10k daily with 'lifestyle' steps... I pushed my goal to 100k a week with the last 30k being purposeful hill walks and trail hikes & ate some of that back. It has worked well for me.
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    The short answer is that no, you shouldn't "eat back" exercise calories.
    Exercise is for health.
    Weight is lost through eating less than you burn, and the easiest way to do that is to eat less, not to burn more.
    (How long does it take to eat a donut, vs. how long does it take to walk it off?)
    Most people underestimate what they eat.
    Most machines overestimate what you burn.

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    mamahope wrote:
    I am a female, 5'9", I have around 100 lbs to lose overall.
    I weigh 267 and am trying to lose 1.5 lbs per week.
    In order to lose 1.5 lbs per week my daily calorie limit is 2040.
    I started in JAN14 almost exactly where you are now: 5'10", 275lb, 1800 cal/day.
    If I hadn't lost my motivation last summer, I'd probably be at goal.
    Instead, my lowest so far was 194.
    It feels great. All the self-control is worth it.
    I especially like the reactions from people I haven't seen for a while. :grin: One guy actually did a double-take.


  • cassieknights951
    cassieknights951 Posts: 48 Member
    I sync mine and regularly eat them back, loosing 2lb a week on 1220 Cals a day plus what ever my steps give me which is usually 200-300
  • geckospot
    geckospot Posts: 56 Member
    Overestimate the calories you eat. Underestimate the exercise you do, and don't eat back those calories.
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    edited February 2016
    Maybe that 'don't eat any exercise calories back' advice works for very obese people doing very gentle workouts, but I wouldn't be able to do the kinds of workouts I do if I didn't eat some of those calories back!
    Came back to edit: that sounds too harsh! What I mean is this... MFP is set up for you to eat back exercise calories to some degree. Sadly, calorie burns assigned can be too high, so it is prudent not to eat all of them back. But if you are doing something very strenuous, say a three or four hour hike, or even habitual long walks at a 15 minute mile pace or better, etc, you WILL need to eat in a way that backfills some of that deficit or your performance can suffer, you might begin to feel either lethargic or antsy, and you are more apt to break in an unscheduled binge-y way to close that gaping deficit.
    Everybody is a little different. The overall accuracy of all your other logging comes in to play too. Start by eating some of those calories. If you feel it slows your weight loss, back off a little. If you still feel crazy hungry (true hungry, not bored hungry) try adding in a few more. The scale will show true deficit eating is working over time. When I started in August 500 calorie daily deficits were easy and effective. Now that I'm about 20 lbs from my goal 250 calorie daily deficits are more realistic and comfortable. I'm okay with the slower pace. I'm going to be doing some form of this forever, right? I also take refeed breaks where I eat at maintenance just to practice what that feels like. It's amazing how good you can feel after a week or two of that once you get over feeling 'naughty.'
    Fitness and weight loss are two different but synergistic goals. I practice fitness religiously. I take mini breaks from weight loss when I begin to feel ground down, out of energy and overly negative.
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    We normally get in steps with normal daily activity. That is not exercise, that's living. Exercise is steps intentionally taken that aren't a part of normal daily activity. You really don't burn much walking.

    It depends on the person and what they set their activity level to. I'm set to sedentary. My normal walking speed is 4 miles per hour. After walking 12,000 to 20,000 steps per day plus my exercise, I earn around 400 to 1000 exercise calories with my Charge HR. I thought that was overinflated at first, but when I didn't eat the calories back I dropped a crazy amount of weight too fast.
  • erinc5
    erinc5 Posts: 329 Member
    I eat most of my step calories back, usually not all, but most of them. I'm set as sedentary and have my Fitbit synced. During the work week, I don't usually get many step calories, but I get a good amount on the weekend and use them to eat and drink well on the weekend!
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