does clean eating help with the cravings?
brenn24179
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I have been eating healthy for last 3 wks and my food cravings have not been as strong. I decided to give it a try when I could not control my junk food eating. Anyone else done better just leaving junk food alone, I swear I think I am a food addict and better off with just healthy stuff. Miss my junk but hate how it dominates me.
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When I reduced baked goods and upped protein, fiber, and exercise my cravings went away. (I do have a square or two of Ghiradelli chocolate after dinner, but I don't CRAVE it.)
What's the difference in your macro ratios then and now? What about fiber intake?0 -
I eat a little "junk food" every day and I don't have cravings. I only have cravings when I try to cut out foods I really enjoy. For me it is easier to stick to my calorie goal if I allow myself to enjoy whatever food I want and enjoy. Things I know I can't leave alone if it is in the house, I only buy enough of for one or two portions and just don't keep it in the house. Luckily for me that is a pretty short list.0
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It totally depends on the person.
For me, "Clean" eating makes me crave stuff, because anytime I "can't" have something, I want it even more. If it's "I can totally have this if I make adjustments to my day" it loses its power over me. Sometimes I really, really wanted a glazed, yeast-raised doughnut. So I get one, I mess around with dinner and exercise and it's nbd. Sometimes I don't want to make the adjustments, but it's still no big deal, because I can always have one tomorrow, and it's removing the morality from my food choices, so there's nothing to feel virtuous or guilty about.0 -
"Clean" is a completely subjective term when it comes to food, so I don't really acknowledge that as an eating style for myself. But I find that a little bit of sweet stuff or "junk" food every day keeps me from binging later. If cutting out sweets for good will help you lose weight and you can sustain it, then go for it.
Using MFP, I have learned how to eat higher volumes of lower calorie foods like vegetables and lean proteins to fill me up and still have plenty of room for some ice cream or whatever later in the day. I end nearly each day with a bowl of ice cream or something else sweet like a brownie or cookies, and a cup of hot chocolate. I could not go very long without chocolate.0 -
I do way better just leaving junk food alone -0
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One strategy that helps me eat better is to research what's in the food I'm eating. The more I learn about the nasty crap packed in junk food, the more it repulses me and the more I want to eat clean. This isn't fool-proof and I still succumb to binges, but it's something that might work for you. If I'm eating well then I eat junk food it literally makes me feel ill. That can be a powerful motivator as well... but again, not fool-proof. I pretty much always find myself letting go around holidays and vacations, then I take a month to get back on the horse and start from square one, so I'm not necessarily the most qualified to offer advice.0
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While I'm not fond of a lot of the nebulous or flat out incorrect terminology being used in this thread (especially "clean", "junk" and "addict") I get the OP is probably talking about nutritionally dense food vs. less nutritious items and will answer based on that assumption.
I rarely have cravings per se but I have noticed eating more nutritious foods tend to fill me up longer so I don't get hungry as quickly and typically doesn't have a ton of calories. I just had a plate full of green beans and chicken, which I would consider "clean", it filled me up and my entire meal was under 350 calories. That much bulk in my stomach from the beans will probably tide me over until breakfast tomorrow whereas if I ate 2 doughnuts or other such food commonly called "junk" I'd hit about the same amount of calories but would probably be hungry quickly due to short-lived satiety.
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brenn24179 wrote: »I have been eating healthy for last 3 wks and my food cravings have not been as strong. I decided to give it a try when I could not control my junk food eating. Anyone else done better just leaving junk food alone, I swear I think I am a food addict and better off with just healthy stuff. Miss my junk but hate how it dominates me.
Up your vegetables and healthy foods high in vitamins you won't crave as much also food that tastes good. I hardly want bad food anymore. Usually you crave cause your body needs something.0 -
For me, yes. The less processed my food is the less I find myself craving processed/junk food. But I usually find that I end up with some strong cravings initially, and once I get past those then I'm usually mostly craving-free.
I'm not opposed to eating some processed foods (lately I've been eating more than I'd like, but... eh, whatever). But for the sake of my health and habits for my kids, I try to eat as much "real" food as possible. I'm mostly concerned about the high amounts of sugar in processed foods. Sugar is added to everything.0 -
thanks for the replies, yes I am staying fuller on these healthy filling foods, when I eat junk I usually am starving in a couple of hours.0
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brenn24179 wrote: »I have been eating healthy for last 3 wks and my food cravings have not been as strong. I decided to give it a try when I could not control my junk food eating. Anyone else done better just leaving junk food alone, I swear I think I am a food addict and better off with just healthy stuff. Miss my junk but hate how it dominates me.
I initially cut out added sugar when I got started, but I realized that what was really the issue for me was snacking, regardless of what I ate, and that I was fine with some added sugar (or good quality cheese or popcorn or whatever my extra of choice is) after dinner (or occasionally right after lunch). I avoid eating outside of mealtimes and once I broke the habit I rarely think about eating at those times, which makes it much easier to control how much I eat.
I do think that having an overall good diet that fits your needs helps too -- I make sure I eat enough protein and vegetables. One can do this without cutting out junk food completely (not saying you should or shouldn't). So many people seem to assume that if you don't cut out stuff you must not be generally eating a healthy and satisfying diet, and of course that's not true.0 -
Do whatever is sustainable for you. If this is your long term plan, go for it.
All things in moderation and limiting my calorie consumption works for me. I do not deny myself any food. It worked for me losing over 1/2 of my current body weight, and it has been working for over 2 years on maintenance.;0 -
Usually a strategy that focuses on eating a lot of fresh produce helps with satiety. But it is also important to assure that:
- you get enough protein and fats
- you drink sufficient water
- you don't have too large a cut with respect to your energy expenditure (including exercise!)
- you get enough sleep
Managing those factors is as important (if not more), than eating clean.
And focus on a strategy you can stick to long term.
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brenn24179 wrote: »I have been eating healthy for last 3 wks and my food cravings have not been as strong. I decided to give it a try when I could not control my junk food eating. Anyone else done better just leaving junk food alone, I swear I think I am a food addict and better off with just healthy stuff. Miss my junk but hate how it dominates me.
I have found that when I focus on nutrient dense foods (especially protein and fiber) and intentionally incorporate some goodies that I do much better. When I restrict foods I love, I tend to want them more and it makes it harder for me to stick with my calories. Instead, I just preplan my calories with a treat (chocolate, candy, or Chickfila milkshake) and it has lead to greater dietary compliance. In the end, I recognize that eliminating all "junk" food is not realistic for me. This game is just as much mental and it's too short to do without goodness.0 -
Making foods off limits made me want them more (and in completely unreasonable quantities). Filing most of my diet with whole, nutritious foods while leaving room for a reasonable treat within my calories has worked much better.0
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Physical or psychological, I eat mostly whole foods with few convenient exceptions, and I no longer even think about the unhealthy but very tasty food and drink I used to consume. I'm on to better things, like planning my exercise.0
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TheBeachgod wrote: »While I'm not fond of a lot of the nebulous or flat out incorrect terminology being used in this thread (especially "clean", "junk" and "addict") I get the OP is probably talking about nutritionally dense food vs. less nutritious items and will answer based on that assumption.
I rarely have cravings per se but I have noticed eating more nutritious foods tend to fill me up longer so I don't get hungry as quickly and typically doesn't have a ton of calories. I just had a plate full of green beans and chicken, which I would consider "clean", it filled me up and my entire meal was under 350 calories. That much bulk in my stomach from the beans will probably tide me over until breakfast tomorrow whereas if I ate 2 doughnuts or other such food commonly called "junk" I'd hit about the same amount of calories but would probably be hungry quickly due to short-lived satiety.
I feel that all the stomach content in these kind of images sets an unrealistic standard for normal stomaches that just don't have the genetics, body type, or good lighting (that's one of the real hard tricks) to ever look like this no matter how meticulous one eats. I mean a lot of days I fill my stomach with 150-200 cals worth of vegetables in one sitting, but I never feel the contents will look like the picture on the right.
That said, appetite control and eating is about more than just filling up one's stomach lining. The fact that lap-band surgery can see people "relapse" and regain a portion of their weight is pretty strong evidence of that. People like that still have issues with their relationship with food, which needs address in the brain rather than stomach.0 -
FYI
Part of this thread was split, so I think it is fair to mention there's what I think is a more informed discussion going on at http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10336344/split-from-does-clean-eating-help-with-cravings0 -
TheBeachgod wrote: »While I'm not fond of a lot of the nebulous or flat out incorrect terminology being used in this thread (especially "clean", "junk" and "addict") I get the OP is probably talking about nutritionally dense food vs. less nutritious items and will answer based on that assumption.
I rarely have cravings per se but I have noticed eating more nutritious foods tend to fill me up longer so I don't get hungry as quickly and typically doesn't have a ton of calories. I just had a plate full of green beans and chicken, which I would consider "clean", it filled me up and my entire meal was under 350 calories. That much bulk in my stomach from the beans will probably tide me over until breakfast tomorrow whereas if I ate 2 doughnuts or other such food commonly called "junk" I'd hit about the same amount of calories but would probably be hungry quickly due to short-lived satiety.
I feel that all the stomach content in these kind of images sets an unrealistic standard for normal stomaches that just don't have the genetics, body type, or good lighting (that's one of the real hard tricks) to ever look like this no matter how meticulous one eats. I mean a lot of days I fill my stomach with 150-200 cals worth of vegetables in one sitting, but I never feel the contents will look like the picture on the right.
That said, appetite control and eating is about more than just filling up one's stomach lining. The fact that lap-band surgery can see people "relapse" and regain a portion of their weight is pretty strong evidence of that. People like that still have issues with their relationship with food, which needs address in the brain rather than stomach.
And considering the source of the picture, there is probably strong bias towards veggies.0 -
I agree the graphic exaggerates things and I in no way will suggest a vegetarian diet (shudder to think) but it does give an idea how more bulk/lower calorie foods can fill you up easier than some other choices.
Also in total agreement about getting the mental angle on a relationship with food straight.0 -
I don't like the clean/junk schism. But I feel different depending on how I eat. When I get most of my calories from a balanced variety of nutrient-dense and home cooked food, the cravings get smaller; when I eat more candy, chips, ice cream and cookies, I have stronger cravings. I eat what I want, but what I want, changes a lot with what I eat. Is it caused by habit, taste preference, nutrition, attitude, energy levels? It's interesting, but less important than finally having food peace.0
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For me, I have found that cutting out the junk food, prepackaged food and foods with added sugars as much as possible and eating fresh food as much as possible has eliminated most food cravings. There is no doubt that I am a sugar addict. The first few days of cutting sugars was a little rough but once I got through it most cravings are manageable. I am able to hold my caloric intake to usually 1200 to 1300 a day and some days I actually have to make myself eat for the nutrition because I am not hungry. However I have experimented some with foods with added sugars, I.E. so called healthy breakfast cereal, and found that I get very hungry when I eat these foods so I avoid them. I have discovered many benefits of eating more healthy such as more energy, mental alertness and better blood work numbers, but also some unexpected benefits like no more night sweating. If fact, less sweating in general which I don't understand why but I am not complaining.0
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In my experience, eating clean has helped me not only feel better, lose weight, and then maintain the weight I have lost, but it HAS curbed my cravings for processed foods (like Doritos, which are my favorite). But at the same time, completely cutting something out of your diet forever when you are craving is not the best way for everyone. If I do get a craving that I just can't satisfy, I have a small portion of what I am craving, whether it's cheesey puffs or something else. That way, I am getting my craving out of my head, but I feel better knowing I didn't eat the whole bag. Good Luck!0
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TheBeachgod wrote: »I agree the graphic exaggerates things and I in no way will suggest a vegetarian diet (shudder to think) but it does give an idea how more bulk/lower calorie foods can fill you up easier than some other choices.
Also in total agreement about getting the mental angle on a relationship with food straight.
It would be interesting if they did a comparison of 400 calories of egg whites (BTW, they equates to 16 egg whites). Or at least chicken.
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