Double checking my stats

leahcollett1
leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Hello everyone.. I just want to run by everyone what they think of my stats. I'm asking because I was this weight back in August 15. So I've been bouncing up and down the same few pounds for the best part of 6 months now.
My 31
I'm 15.7
5 foot 7
I eat 1600 via tdee minus 25% calculated based upon working out doing combat for 3-4 times weekly. Last week I lost 1.5 this week gained 1.5
I measure and weigh everything using salter scales. My meals are alk in recipe database for quickness.
This week my choice of foods has been bad cus of my totm but I have been within my calories.

I just want to know if I'm on right track I know weight loss isn't linear but there's something going on.
I've been told to eat more. Muscle weighs heavier than fat all the wrong info by members on Facebook. I've measured too and not lost an inch since I last took my measurements in Nov 15
Any advice would be appreciated

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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Hello everyone.. I just want to run by everyone what they think of my stats. I'm asking because I was this weight back in August 15. So I've been bouncing up and down the same few pounds for the best part of 6 months now.
    My 31
    I'm 15.7
    5 foot 7
    I eat 1600 via tdee minus 25% calculated based upon working out doing combat for 3-4 times weekly. Last week I lost 1.5 this week gained 1.5
    I measure and weigh everything using salter scales. My meals are alk in recipe database for quickness.
    This week my choice of foods has been bad cus of my totm but I have been within my calories.

    I just want to know if I'm on right track I know weight loss isn't linear but there's something going on.
    I've been told to eat more. Muscle weighs heavier than fat all the wrong info by members on Facebook. I've measured too and not lost an inch since I last took my measurements in Nov 15
    Any advice would be appreciated

    I'm confused

    Does this mean you're 31, 5'7 and weigh 15 stone and 7 pounds? 217lbs?

    And you're following a TDEE method, cutting 25% and eat 1600 calories ..so your TDEE is around 2100? Which makes your cut 500 so aiming for 1lb a week

    So you're not adding exercise calories? Are your recipe meals ones you created yourself?

    You've only mentioned the last 2 weeks, how much have you lost in total?

    Take your average loss over rolling 6-8 weeks and see if you're on track with expectations..adjust calorie intake from that ...you're right that your hormones will have masked your scale weight through water fluctuations

    Log into a trend weight app like libra or happy scale or site like trendweight.com (my favourite)
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    edited February 2016
    Yep to all that. Yes I do the recipe first then add it to the builder after weighing.
    I put on 10lbs whilst in ibiza back in Sept so I worked that off I didn't put in any weight during Christmas and since then floated around the sane couple pounds.
    I try and see my trend graph but it's not very informative on mfp and happy scale you need a wireless scales with that don't you? I can't weigh in every day either I think I'd die from frequent meltdowns at fluctuations.
  • 1961dublin
    1961dublin Posts: 124 Member
    Hello everyone.. I just want to run by everyone what they think of my stats. I'm asking because I was this weight back in August 15. So I've been bouncing up and down the same few pounds for the best part of 6 months now.
    My 31
    I'm 15.7
    5 foot 7
    I eat 1600 via tdee minus 25% calculated based upon working out doing combat for 3-4 times weekly. Last week I lost 1.5 this week gained 1.5
    I measure and weigh everything using salter scales. My meals are alk in recipe database for quickness.
    This week my choice of foods has been bad cus of my totm but I have been within my calories.

    I just want to know if I'm on right track I know weight loss isn't linear but there's something going on.
    I've been told to eat more. Muscle weighs heavier than fat all the wrong info by members on Facebook. I've measured too and not lost an inch since I last took my measurements in Nov 15
    Any advice would be appreciated

    What age are you? When I was in my late 40s I could not loose ANY weight no matter how little I ate. I tried and tried for a couple of years in different ways but I didnt loose 1 pound. Eventually I gave up and then returned to weight loss 2 years ago age 52. This time it worked SLOWLY and carefully using the 5 2 and 4 3 sometimes and watching calories on NFDs as well. Anyway, the problem in my late 40s was hormonal. I was in perimenopause and nobody believed my story then. They thought I was overeating. It was very very upsetting, but once menopause passed I was able to loose again. Could that be the case with you?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    1961dublin wrote: »
    Hello everyone.. I just want to run by everyone what they think of my stats. I'm asking because I was this weight back in August 15. So I've been bouncing up and down the same few pounds for the best part of 6 months now.
    My 31
    I'm 15.7
    5 foot 7
    I eat 1600 via tdee minus 25% calculated based upon working out doing combat for 3-4 times weekly. Last week I lost 1.5 this week gained 1.5
    I measure and weigh everything using salter scales. My meals are alk in recipe database for quickness.
    This week my choice of foods has been bad cus of my totm but I have been within my calories.

    I just want to know if I'm on right track I know weight loss isn't linear but there's something going on.
    I've been told to eat more. Muscle weighs heavier than fat all the wrong info by members on Facebook. I've measured too and not lost an inch since I last took my measurements in Nov 15
    Any advice would be appreciated

    What age are you? When I was in my late 40s I could not loose ANY weight no matter how little I ate. I tried and tried for a couple of years in different ways but I didnt loose 1 pound. Eventually I gave up and then returned to weight loss 2 years ago age 52. This time it worked SLOWLY and carefully using the 5 2 and 4 3 sometimes and watching calories on NFDs as well. Anyway, the problem in my late 40s was hormonal. I was in perimenopause and nobody believed my story then. They thought I was overeating. It was very very upsetting, but once menopause passed I was able to loose again. Could that be the case with you?

    Nope ...it's down to inaccurate logging sorry and impatience. Hormonal fluctuations can indeed affect water weight which can absolutely demoralise but over a decent time scale if you're eating at a defecit you will lose weight. Perimenopause and menopause do not stop this law of physics ...
    Yep to all that. Yes I do the recipe first then add it to the builder after weighing.
    I put on 10lbs whilst in ibiza back in Sept so I worked that off I didn't put in any weight during Christmas and since then floated around the sane couple pounds.
    I try and see my trend graph but it's not very informative on mfp and happy scale you need a wireless scales with that don't you? I can't weigh in every day either I think I'd die from frequent meltdowns at fluctuations.

    You need to refocus on your logging and if you haven't lost weight in the next 6 weeks reduce your calories, because then you'll have proof that your estimates are not working for you

    Log every single mouthful by weight and double check accuracy of calories with other calorie counters

    Recheck your recipes going through ingredient by ingredient and double checking accuracy

    If you open an account on Fitbit.com (you don't need a Fitbit or special scale) then synch that to MFP any weights you enter on MFP will automatically synch through to trendweight.com so you will have a trend line that evens out fluctuations on a rolling timescale and gives you an extrapolation
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    brilliant thanks rabbit, ill do that. so you think 1600 calories ( not eating them back) is ok or shall i reduce them by 100 a day?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    brilliant thanks rabbit, ill do that. so you think 1600 calories ( not eating them back) is ok or shall i reduce them by 100 a day?

    It sounds a decent level to me for your stats ..but all the figures are estimates ..if you really haven't lost and have been accurate with logging and you've given it a good 6 weeks it couldn't hurt to reduce a little more because your body would be saying the TDEE estimate is not right

    But you need to give it appropriate time...not week by week

    Good luck :)
  • evivahealth
    evivahealth Posts: 571 Member
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    oh i know this week has been awful. and now i know why.. bloody hormones but if you go view the diary the week before its not as bad.
    thanks everyone for your advice
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)

    Nope that's just playing with water weight
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    i managed to pull this off the slimming world website. this is 3 years worth. lots of ups

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  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    thats long stint was me leaving sw between sept and christmas..
  • evivahealth
    evivahealth Posts: 571 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)

    Nope that's just playing with water weight

    It isn't just playing with water weight. I understand the whole glycogen/water binding/water weight thing however it's not just about water weight it's also about burning dietary glucose vs lypolysis, right?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are feeding your body excess carbs (which it then metabolises into glucose) your body has a ready source of glucose to burn. When you don't have a ready source of glucose in your system, because of lowered carbohydrate intake, your body switches to burning adipose tissue.
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    i always thought a calorie is a calorie - if i deplete eating carbs - then id have to spend the rest of my life doing that.. what i want is a healthy balance of carbs protein fats - its managing that balance lol especially on totm
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    @rabbitjb i also wanted to ask whether there was any truth behind what ive been told lately.
    ive been told to cut down on the les mill body combat as this is too intense. i need to focus on exercises that my heart rate doesn't go past the 130s, so walking for instance as it burns more fat at this levels than say at my intense level of 160 doing combat. ive been told that this could be why the weight isnt dropping of...
    no idea whether this is just nonsense or whether there is truth behind it.. so going to put it out there.
  • bruhaha007
    bruhaha007 Posts: 333 Member
    I shoot for a balance of 40/30/30 (carbs/protein/fat) and 1200-1400 might be a better target range.
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    1200 not eating back exercise calories? im doing the TDEE method which incorporates exercise calories burnt if i dropped to 1200 i would be netting at about 700-800
  • bruhaha007
    bruhaha007 Posts: 333 Member
    To be fair I am not familiar with the TDEE method. I do IF (intermittent fasting) to shred. Ultimately we all fluctuate a couple lbs per week and women more so than men. Do you take measurements and measure your inches loss in addition the scale?
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    i took measurements last nov 15, i took them again last night - with no movement.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Intense
    @rabbitjb i also wanted to ask whether there was any truth behind what ive been told lately.
    ive been told to cut down on the les mill body combat as this is too intense. i need to focus on exercises that my heart rate doesn't go past the 130s, so walking for instance as it burns more fat at this levels than say at my intense level of 160 doing combat. ive been told that this could be why the weight isnt dropping of...
    no idea whether this is just nonsense or whether there is truth behind it.. so going to put it out there.

    Intense exercise improves cardiovascular fitness and has a higher per minute calorie burn. Less intense would mean you could keep it up for longer but with lower per minute burn

    You would probably get more water fluctuations and progress with intense

    Really depends on your goals and what you enjoy and will keep doing IMHO- on workout days I like to go hard because that's how I get fitter and stronger - none workout days I'll walk further - the calorie burns are probably fairly similar but overall my body benefits from intense and low intensity but endurance
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)

    Nope that's just playing with water weight

    It isn't just playing with water weight. I understand the whole glycogen/water binding/water weight thing however it's not just about water weight it's also about burning dietary glucose vs lypolysis, right?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are feeding your body excess carbs (which it then metabolises into glucose) your body has a ready source of glucose to burn. When you don't have a ready source of glucose in your system, because of lowered carbohydrate intake, your body switches to burning adipose tissue.

    The body turns excess calories into fat ...I'm sorry but you asked me to correct you if you're wrong ,..and you're wrong

    There is only personal preference involved in reducing carbs to hit your defecit...a calorie is indeed a calorie ...
  • evivahealth
    evivahealth Posts: 571 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)

    Nope that's just playing with water weight

    It isn't just playing with water weight. I understand the whole glycogen/water binding/water weight thing however it's not just about water weight it's also about burning dietary glucose vs lypolysis, right?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are feeding your body excess carbs (which it then metabolises into glucose) your body has a ready source of glucose to burn. When you don't have a ready source of glucose in your system, because of lowered carbohydrate intake, your body switches to burning adipose tissue.

    The body turns excess calories into fat ...I'm sorry but you asked me to correct you if you're wrong ,..and you're wrong

    There is only personal preference involved in reducing carbs to hit your defecit...a calorie is indeed a calorie ...

    I see better results with restricting carbs, especially processed carbohydrates. I find it helps with satiety and gives me more calories to eat much more nutrient-dense food. I know other people have as well which is why I suggested that the OP give it a try.

    It's widely accepted that not all calories are created equal, so my suggestion is as outlandish as you're making out (http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/10/27/is-a-calorie-really-just-a-calorie/ / http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/ask-the-dietitian-is-a-calorie-a-calorie-2/ for example)

    Just a hint: It's more helpful if you give reasons for the statements you make in the comments here to help people learn more about nutrition so maybe you'd like to show us your working in future. I'd like to see where you are coming from so I can become more informed as well!
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)

    Nope that's just playing with water weight

    It isn't just playing with water weight. I understand the whole glycogen/water binding/water weight thing however it's not just about water weight it's also about burning dietary glucose vs lypolysis, right?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are feeding your body excess carbs (which it then metabolises into glucose) your body has a ready source of glucose to burn. When you don't have a ready source of glucose in your system, because of lowered carbohydrate intake, your body switches to burning adipose tissue.

    The body turns excess calories into fat ...I'm sorry but you asked me to correct you if you're wrong ,..and you're wrong

    There is only personal preference involved in reducing carbs to hit your defecit...a calorie is indeed a calorie ...

    I see better results with restricting carbs, especially processed carbohydrates. I find it helps with satiety and gives me more calories to eat much more nutrient-dense food. I know other people have as well which is why I suggested that the OP give it a try.

    As I said - personal preference

    It's widely accepted that not all calories are created equal, so my suggestion is as outlandish as you're making out (http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/10/27/is-a-calorie-really-just-a-calorie/ / http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/ask-the-dietitian-is-a-calorie-a-calorie-2/ for example)

    All calories are indeed equal as a calorie is a measurement of energy like an inch or a gram. All foods are not nutritionally equal - that's a different contention entirely

    Just a hint: It's more helpful if you give reasons for the statements you make in the comments here to help people learn more about nutrition so maybe you'd like to show us your working in future. I'd like to see where you are coming from so I can become more informed as well!

    Thanks for your hint :) - I gave reasons but I don't feel the need to go into pages of explanations for basic truisms, I save my ramblings for people who are really confused - feel free to search my posts if you like
  • evivahealth
    evivahealth Posts: 571 Member
    edited February 2016
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)

    Nope that's just playing with water weight

    It isn't just playing with water weight. I understand the whole glycogen/water binding/water weight thing however it's not just about water weight it's also about burning dietary glucose vs lypolysis, right?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are feeding your body excess carbs (which it then metabolises into glucose) your body has a ready source of glucose to burn. When you don't have a ready source of glucose in your system, because of lowered carbohydrate intake, your body switches to burning adipose tissue.

    The body turns excess calories into fat ...I'm sorry but you asked me to correct you if you're wrong ,..and you're wrong

    There is only personal preference involved in reducing carbs to hit your defecit...a calorie is indeed a calorie ...

    I see better results with restricting carbs, especially processed carbohydrates. I find it helps with satiety and gives me more calories to eat much more nutrient-dense food. I know other people have as well which is why I suggested that the OP give it a try.

    As I said - personal preference

    It's widely accepted that not all calories are created equal, so my suggestion is as outlandish as you're making out (http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/10/27/is-a-calorie-really-just-a-calorie/ / http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/ask-the-dietitian-is-a-calorie-a-calorie-2/ for example)

    All calories are indeed equal as a calorie is a measurement of energy like an inch or a gram. All foods are not nutritionally equal - that's a different contention entirely

    Just a hint: It's more helpful if you give reasons for the statements you make in the comments here to help people learn more about nutrition so maybe you'd like to show us your working in future. I'd like to see where you are coming from so I can become more informed as well!

    Thanks for your hint :) - I gave reasons but I don't feel the need to go into pages of explanations for basic truisms, I save my ramblings for people who are really confused - feel free to search my posts if you like

    Maybe you could link some relevant ones here for when people come across this and want some information as to why you don't suggest limiting carbs? :)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I can't talk for the overall trend but I reckon you answered your own question as to why you've put "weight" on this week ... it's that TOTM! Water retention and bloating are a killer.

    As for the longer-term issue, you might benefit from changing up your macros a bit - I noticed from your diary that you're keen on delicious delicious carbs (who isn't?!) but you might find if you try something different for a while like getting more of your calories from protein and fat will help you start to see a shift. Try having a read of a few articles about why a calorie isn't just a calorie (http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/) and see if you can make some tweaks around that. I hope this can help tip that trend back on the downward slope for you :)

    Nope that's just playing with water weight

    It isn't just playing with water weight. I understand the whole glycogen/water binding/water weight thing however it's not just about water weight it's also about burning dietary glucose vs lypolysis, right?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are feeding your body excess carbs (which it then metabolises into glucose) your body has a ready source of glucose to burn. When you don't have a ready source of glucose in your system, because of lowered carbohydrate intake, your body switches to burning adipose tissue.

    The body turns excess calories into fat ...I'm sorry but you asked me to correct you if you're wrong ,..and you're wrong

    There is only personal preference involved in reducing carbs to hit your defecit...a calorie is indeed a calorie ...

    I see better results with restricting carbs, especially processed carbohydrates. I find it helps with satiety and gives me more calories to eat much more nutrient-dense food. I know other people have as well which is why I suggested that the OP give it a try.

    As I said - personal preference

    It's widely accepted that not all calories are created equal, so my suggestion is as outlandish as you're making out (http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/10/27/is-a-calorie-really-just-a-calorie/ / http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/ask-the-dietitian-is-a-calorie-a-calorie-2/ for example)

    All calories are indeed equal as a calorie is a measurement of energy like an inch or a gram. All foods are not nutritionally equal - that's a different contention entirely

    Just a hint: It's more helpful if you give reasons for the statements you make in the comments here to help people learn more about nutrition so maybe you'd like to show us your working in future. I'd like to see where you are coming from so I can become more informed as well!

    Thanks for your hint :) - I gave reasons but I don't feel the need to go into pages of explanations for basic truisms, I save my ramblings for people who are really confused - feel free to search my posts if you like

    Maybe you could link some relevant ones here for when people come across this and want some information as to why you don't suggest limiting carbs? :)

    Well you're the one suggesting it...why do you think it is necessary to limit carbs ?

    As I said it's down to personal preference ...don't you believe that?

    Here, no significant difference in those with insulin resistance, the people one would most expect to benefit from going low carb
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.21331/abstract

    For athletes carbs can be beneficial

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151211131723.htm

    A study on an indigenous population with a 90% carb diet ...kind of old it's from 1973...still relevant though..no diabetes / no cv disease

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0021968173900313


    This one chart amuses me...although this is clearly correlation not causation :)
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  • evivahealth
    evivahealth Posts: 571 Member
    edited February 2016
    I think everything in life is down to personal preference! Horses for courses and all that.

    That's a much more helpful kinda comment! Much more informative. Thanks a bunch rabbit :)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I think everything in life is down to personal preference! Horses for courses and all that.

    That's a much more helpful kinda comment! Much more informative. Thanks a bunch rabbit :)

    You're welcome

    I don't have an issue with low carb if it helps an individual hit their calorie defecit

    Which is why stating it's personal preference seemed sufficient for me
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