How can I excerpts eyitayo loose weight without gaining muscle
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cafeaulait7 wrote: »If your BMI is 16.8, it would take a really long, hard time to look thick with muscle. So go on and eat and lift and you'll get some muscle tone that you are looking for. Enjoy!
OP thinks that loosing weight is going to get rid of the flabbiness. So I am not sure if there is a need to introduce weight training and encourage a calorie surplus to build up the legs, or send him to the high school coach for sprints and stadium run ups for cardio.
OP is a girl
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cafeaulait7 wrote: »If your BMI is 16.8, it would take a really long, hard time to look thick with muscle. So go on and eat and lift and you'll get some muscle tone that you are looking for. Enjoy!
I'm not trying to get thick with muscle. I want to be like toned
You are working with the misconception that lifting weights will make you thick with muscle--like a professional bodybuilder. Women just don't get that level of muscle development without extreme dedication and, for many, chemical supplementation.
With such a low bmi, your problem is not your weight. Losing more weight will not give you the look you want & will push you even farther into the underweight zone which has it's own health problems. You need to eat more calories than you use each day. MFP will calculate that for you. While you are eating more, you need to start a progressive strength training program like Stronglift 5x5, New Rules of Lifting for Women, or Starting Strength. You will gain both muscle (which you want) and fat. Once you get comfortably into the "normal" bmi range, you can change your calorie goals to lose 0.5 lbs a week & begin eating slightly less than you use each day. You will lose some of the fat that is covering your new, tighter ("toned") body.
To see many examples, take a look at this thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/977538/halp-heavy-lifting-made-me-supah-bulky/p1
It's really long, but even if you look only at the original poster, you will see that she does not look at all thick with muscle. There are many examples on that thread of women who lift weights and got heavier, but actually look thinner and fit into smaller clothes because they replaced fat with muscle.
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OP needs to understand that it is the lack of muscle mass causing the misperception of flabby legs.0
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brianpperkins wrote: »OP needs to understand that it is the lack of muscle mass causing the misperception of flabby legs.
Maybe we could start with the fact that fat doesn't turn into muscle and go from there.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »cafeaulait7 wrote: »If your BMI is 16.8, it would take a really long, hard time to look thick with muscle. So go on and eat and lift and you'll get some muscle tone that you are looking for. Enjoy!
I'm not trying to get thick with muscle. I want to be like toned
You realise 'toned' is muscle, right? you can't 'tone' fat or bones. No muscle = skin + bones and that can = 'flab' which is just loose skin with nothing underneath. You have to work bloody hard to get 'thick'. It doesn't just happen.
Yeah, that's where I was going with it, too.
OP, weight lifting acts on a bit of a continuum. It's the quickest way to turn under-used (flabby) muscles into firm muscles at their same size. It's way later on that they could get bigger (at your BMI).
If firm is what you are looking for (and I use 'flabby' to describe my unfirm muscles as well ), then weights give you the quickest route to fixing that.
And then eating more is just because your BMI is low and you don't need to eat so little. If you use weights while you eat well, it goes to the muscles very nice and prettily (especially at a BMI like yours). Much later on is where bigger things start happening, and that takes a looong while. You'll not have to lift until you can do 400 lbs or anything
Just start it for a while and you'll see quickly what I mean. Promise! 0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »OP needs to understand that it is the lack of muscle mass causing the misperception of flabby legs.
Maybe we could start with the fact that fat doesn't turn into muscle and go from there.
OP is extremely young & likely has not been educated at all about fitness & nutrition, but she has probably been flooded with flat out wrong information nearly everywhere--magazines, tv, & the internet.0 -
cafeaulait7 wrote: »If your BMI is 16.8, it would take a really long, hard time to look thick with muscle. So go on and eat and lift and you'll get some muscle tone that you are looking for. Enjoy!
I'm not trying to get thick with muscle. I want to be like toned
You are working with the misconception that lifting weights will make you thick with muscle--like a professional bodybuilder. Women just don't get that level of muscle development without extreme dedication and, for many, chemical supplementation.
With such a low bmi, your problem is not your weight. Losing more weight will not give you the look you want & will push you even farther into the underweight zone which has it's own health problems. You need to eat more calories than you use each day. MFP will calculate that for you. While you are eating more, you need to start a progressive strength training program like Stronglift 5x5, New Rules of Lifting for Women, or Starting Strength. You will gain both muscle (which you want) and fat. Once you get comfortably into the "normal" bmi range, you can change your calorie goals to lose 0.5 lbs a week & begin eating slightly less than you use each day. You will lose some of the fat that is covering your new, tighter ("toned") body.
To see many examples, take a look at this thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/977538/halp-heavy-lifting-made-me-supah-bulky/p1
It's really long, but even if you look only at the original poster, you will see that she does not look at all thick with muscle. There are many examples on that thread of women who lift weights and got heavier, but actually look thinner and fit into smaller clothes because they replaced fat with muscle.cafeaulait7 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »cafeaulait7 wrote: »If your BMI is 16.8, it would take a really long, hard time to look thick with muscle. So go on and eat and lift and you'll get some muscle tone that you are looking for. Enjoy!
I'm not trying to get thick with muscle. I want to be like toned
You realise 'toned' is muscle, right? you can't 'tone' fat or bones. No muscle = skin + bones and that can = 'flab' which is just loose skin with nothing underneath. You have to work bloody hard to get 'thick'. It doesn't just happen.
Yeah, that's where I was going with it, too.
OP, weight lifting acts on a bit of a continuum. It's the quickest way to turn under-used (flabby) muscles into firm muscles at their same size. It's way later on that they could get bigger (at your BMI).
If firm is what you are looking for (and I use 'flabby' to describe my unfirm muscles as well ), then weights give you the quickest route to fixing that.
And then eating more is just because your BMI is low and you don't need to eat so little. If you use weights while you eat well, it goes to the muscles very nice and prettily (especially at a BMI like yours). Much later on is where bigger things start happening, and that takes a looong while. You'll not have to lift until you can do 400 lbs or anything Just start it for a while and you'll see quickly what I mean. Promise!
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cafeaulait7 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »cafeaulait7 wrote: »If your BMI is 16.8, it would take a really long, hard time to look thick with muscle. So go on and eat and lift and you'll get some muscle tone that you are looking for. Enjoy!
I'm not trying to get thick with muscle. I want to be like toned
You realise 'toned' is muscle, right? you can't 'tone' fat or bones. No muscle = skin + bones and that can = 'flab' which is just loose skin with nothing underneath. You have to work bloody hard to get 'thick'. It doesn't just happen.
Yeah, that's where I was going with it, too.
OP, weight lifting acts on a bit of a continuum. It's the quickest way to turn under-used (flabby) muscles into firm muscles at their same size. It's way later on that they could get bigger (at your BMI).
If firm is what you are looking for (and I use 'flabby' to describe my unfirm muscles as well ), then weights give you the quickest route to fixing that.
And then eating more is just because your BMI is low and you don't need to eat so little. If you use weights while you eat well, it goes to the muscles very nice and prettily (especially at a BMI like yours). Much later on is where bigger things start happening, and that takes a looong while. You'll not have to lift until you can do 400 lbs or anything Just start it for a while and you'll see quickly what I mean. Promise!brianpperkins wrote: »OP needs to understand that it is the lack of muscle mass causing the misperception of flabby legs.
Maybe we could start with the fact that fat doesn't turn into muscle and go from there.
OP is extremely young & likely has not been educated at all about fitness & nutrition, but she has probably been flooded with flat out wrong information nearly everywhere--magazines, tv, & the internet.
How do I get access to the lifting fitness plan?
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Also, I can tell that there is fat and just not muscle cause when I squeeze my skin together, I can see like the fat stuff0
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I have been researching Stronglifts 5x5. It is a free program. You can find out more information at http://stronglifts.com/ or there is a Stronglifts for Women group here on MFP: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/560459/stronglifts-5x5-summary/p1
The New Rules of Lifting for Women is a book. You can get it online http://www.amazon.com/New-Rules-Lifting-Women-Goddess/dp/1583333398/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1456286642&sr=8-1 or probably at the library.
Starting Strength is a book as well. You can find out more about the program here: http://startingstrength.com/site/about .
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I have been researching Stronglifts 5x5. It is a free program. You can find out more information at http://stronglifts.com/ or there is a Stronglifts for Women group here on MFP: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/560459/stronglifts-5x5-summary/p1
The New Rules of Lifting for Women is a book. You can get it online http://www.amazon.com/New-Rules-Lifting-Women-Goddess/dp/1583333398/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1456286642&sr=8-1 or probably at the library.
Starting Strength is a book as well. You can find out more about the program here: http://startingstrength.com/site/about .
Thankyou! Thankyou! Thankyou!
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You need to fix your diet, eat lots of protein and fresh vegetables. Aim to eat more calories and for your scale weight to go up until your BMI is over 18.5 minimum but ideally over 20 and you are out of the danger zone
Your skin, hair, nails, energy will thank you
Why?
Also Staci
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
If you can't bring yourself to do free weights yet then do a decent bodyweight programme
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/
Read this: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/10/26/how-to-not-suck-at-working-out/
Get a programme
Books
Strong Curves
New Rules of Lifting for Women or Stronger
Structured online programmes
http://stronglifts.com/5x5/
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/jason-blaha-ice-cream-fitness-5x5-novice-workout
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/4-week-guide-starting-strength
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You need to fix your diet, eat lots of protein and fresh vegetables. Aim to eat more calories and for your scale weight to go up until your BMI is over 18.5 minimum but ideally over 20 and you are out of the danger zone
Your skin, hair, nails, energy will thank you
Why?
Also Staci
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
If you can't bring yourself to do free weights yet then do a decent bodyweight programme
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/
Read this: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/10/26/how-to-not-suck-at-working-out/
Get a programme
Books
Strong Curves
New Rules of Lifting for Women or Stronger
Structured online programmes
http://stronglifts.com/5x5/
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/jason-blaha-ice-cream-fitness-5x5-novice-workout
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/4-week-guide-starting-strength
Okay thankyou!
I was actually working to loose weight and I've been eating below 1200 calories per day.
I know it's bad for me, but I genuinely do not feel sickly or weak.
I'm going to stop though.
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You need to fix your diet, eat lots of protein and fresh vegetables. Aim to eat more calories and for your scale weight to go up until your BMI is over 18.5 minimum but ideally over 20 and you are out of the danger zone
Your skin, hair, nails, energy will thank you
Why?
Also Staci
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
If you can't bring yourself to do free weights yet then do a decent bodyweight programme
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/
Read this: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/10/26/how-to-not-suck-at-working-out/
Get a programme
Books
Strong Curves
New Rules of Lifting for Women or Stronger
Structured online programmes
http://stronglifts.com/5x5/
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/jason-blaha-ice-cream-fitness-5x5-novice-workout
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/4-week-guide-starting-strength
Okay thankyou!
I was actually working to loose weight and I've been eating below 1200 calories per day.
I know it's bad for me, but I genuinely do not feel sickly or weak.
I'm going to stop though.
You clearly need appropriate direction, ideally from an eating disorder specialist ....because yes that is extremely bad for you medically, socially and long term
You know the issues with being underweight may seem nothing to you which is why I focused on the purely physical appearance ones of skin, hair, nails and the lack of energy
But many medical ailments can also be attributed to being underweight ...and with your stated BMI, even as a teen, you are seriously underweight
Let's see the milder ones are
abnormal blood counts
elevated liver enzymes
fatigue
dizziness or fainting
seizure
brittle nails
hair that thins, breaks or falls out
absence of menstruation (amenorrhea)
development of fine hair on the extremities (lanugo)
constipation
dry skin
intolerance of cold
irregular heart rhythms
low blood pressure
dehydration
osteoporosis, the loss of bone calcium, which may result in broken bones
Then of course there's the
Low self-esteem
Obsessive or compulsive personality traits, which make it easier to adhere to strict diets and resist hunger
Perfectionism, when centered on the body leads to thought distortions such as “I’m never thin enough.”
Low levels of serotonin, one of the brain chemicals involved in depression
And
Infertility
Shutdown of major body systems
Brain damage
Heart attacks
Death
Let's just put this here shall we
http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/find-help-support
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