"Craving" a cheat day.

HeathermRVT
HeathermRVT Posts: 79 Member
edited November 30 in Health and Weight Loss
I've been doing so well for the past month. I haven't started working out - yet - but I'm down 8 lbs by watching the calories.
I've been really craving a cheat day, though. Some pizza, maybe some Pepsi, some chocolate cake. Yep. Definitely want that. So, in your experience is it better to give in this time and then get back on track or push through?
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  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    Can you make those things fit in your calories for the day? No reason to not have the food you enjoy in life.
  • HeathermRVT
    HeathermRVT Posts: 79 Member
    All right I realize I just posted this but I'm now thinking the best compromise would be to do some exercise and then eat back the calories so that I'm still within, or at least close to, my calorie limit for the day.
  • jayjay_90
    jayjay_90 Posts: 83 Member
    ^ Bingo
  • xXxWhitneyxXx
    xXxWhitneyxXx Posts: 119 Member
    Fit them in your day, you'll feel better about it that way, I know I always do.
  • ARGriffy
    ARGriffy Posts: 1,002 Member
    If you're "craving" there will be a scientific reason behind it in 9 times out of 10, if it's specifically sugary stuff you gotta eat some fruit, if it's "junk" in general you might be over restricting a little so your body craves calories from anywhere! Allow a little of whatever you like, log it, adjust the days after if you go over and life as normal :) no point never eating pizza again you can't sustain that!!
  • theconnertys
    theconnertys Posts: 31 Member
    I had pizza and beer for dinner tonight. It was a treat, and I will still hit my calorie goal for the day. Sodium goal is out the window thanks to the pepperoni lol, but you can eat your cravings...just plan it into your day. And yeah...work out. You can eat most of those calories back (I don't eat them all back because even with a heart monitor your calorie burn is not exact...don't want to accidentally over eat).
  • endlessfall16
    endlessfall16 Posts: 932 Member
    Another way, which I think is even better, is to retrain your taste. I used to like bacon but it grosses me out now.

    In a lesser degree, let yourself enjoy a slice or 2 but consider eating more than that is kinda gross and forbidden. Think of this as adults have outgrown the joy of putting 1 tablespoonful of pure sugar in the mouth which I did as a kid. :)
  • ragtimedoll
    ragtimedoll Posts: 25 Member
    Don't cave!! lol that's my experience anyway. Gotta keep working at it every day.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    Plan a reasonable cheat meal and do it. Do not exceed your TDEE for the day.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    I used to like bacon but it grosses me out now.

    *lights thread on fire*

  • HeathermRVT
    HeathermRVT Posts: 79 Member
    Think of this as adults have outgrown the joy of putting 1 tablespoonful of pure sugar in the mouth which I did as a kid. :)

    If being an adult means not enjoying spoonfuls of sugar than count me out! :p

    Thanks for the advice everyone. As I've been losing about 2lbs/week I want to wait until I hit ten, indulge, but still make it work within my goals, and then keep going!
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,188 Member
    I also fit those things in every day. A 12 ounce Pepsi is just 140 calories. If you just have one occasionally or even once a day you should be able to fit it. I have pizza almost every week. My husband loves it and he doesn't need to lose weight. I just usually have a big salad with it and only have one or two pieces. I don't have cake often because my husband doesn't eat sweets and I don't want the temptation but I do have something sweet almost every day. I wouldn't be able to stick with it if I gave up everything I like to eat.
  • Yisrael1981
    Yisrael1981 Posts: 132 Member
    You know yourself best. To me I try to live without junk food as it makes me crave even more and I never get satisfied
  • melonaulait
    melonaulait Posts: 769 Member
    If I eat too little, I definitely start having cravings for just about anything. (My worst enemy is a giant bag of greasy potato chips.) On the days where I eat enough calories, I don't even think twice about "junk".
  • youngpip
    youngpip Posts: 18 Member
    Pizza is the main thing I crave too, sad that it's one of the highest calorie items you can get!

    At a 2lbs loss per week I guess you've got quite a low allowance so it could be tricky to fit pizza PLUS chocolate cake into one day (even with exercise). So you might want to look at your week as a whole and be a bit lower on other days so you can fit it into the week's calories.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Make a piece of pizza fit in your day. And have a chocolate cupcake another day. It can all fit, you just have to be smart about it and not all eat it at once.
  • ClosetBayesian
    ClosetBayesian Posts: 836 Member
    youngpip wrote: »
    Pizza is the main thing I crave too, sad that it's one of the highest calorie items you can get!

    At a 2lbs loss per week I guess you've got quite a low allowance so it could be tricky to fit pizza PLUS chocolate cake into one day (even with exercise). So you might want to look at your week as a whole and be a bit lower on other days so you can fit it into the week's calories.

    I'm not sure where you're coming from with that claim about pizza being one of the highest calorie items you can get; 1 slice (1/8) of a large cheese pizza at Domino's is 290 calories; one Lender's brand bagel, by comparison, is 230 calories. The pizza is probably more satisfying, thanks to the protein and fat (35g carbs, 12g protein, 11g fat, as compared to 48g carbs, 8g protein, 1g fat). 4oz of ground beef (1/4lb hamburger) is 287 calories by itself; eat that as a lettuce wrap, and you have more calories than that slice of pizza. I can make a salad with more calories than that slice of pizza.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    It won't hurt your efforts much (if at all) to eat at or slightly over maintenance if you cannot fit it in your day. Life happens. Pizza happens. Have some pizza and pick up where you left off.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    I would give in, but not go bat *kitten* crazy about it. The only time I have 'cheat days' is a special occasion or when I've been craving something for a while. I don't give in to every craving I have, but if it lingers or reoccurs over several days, then I have it.
  • Lextmg86
    Lextmg86 Posts: 102 Member
    I have a treat every night but it also fits into my calories.
  • tiffkittyw
    tiffkittyw Posts: 366 Member
    edited March 2016
    I fit my cravings in every week. I love using the nutrition tab in the app to see how my weekly deficit is doing. I pre log what I plan to eat each day and make sure I meet my weekly goal. Like others have said, if you eat less on other days you can always eat at TDEE one or two days a week and still lose weight.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    I've been doing so well for the past month. I haven't started working out - yet - but I'm down 8 lbs by watching the calories.
    I've been really craving a cheat day, though. Some pizza, maybe some Pepsi, some chocolate cake. Yep. Definitely want that. So, in your experience is it better to give in this time and then get back on track or push through?

    Where are you in your menstrual cycle? You sound like you have either been undereating or are premenstrual. When my appetite goes up premenstrually, I eat at maintenance for a few days, which makes foods like pizza easier to fit in.
  • Smccabe8
    Smccabe8 Posts: 129 Member
    You can also make low calorie pizzas with a tortilla, and the oven set on broil. Here's my favorite method of making them. A whole mini pizza under 200 calories!

    I don't eat dairy anymore due to an allergy, so I substitute with using less "cheese" (Daiya) - and mine are around 150 calories.

    I try to figure out how to make my favorite things with healthy food. These flourless black bean brownies are to die for. Low fat, gluten free, and dairy free. I take them everywhere, and people can't believe they're made with a black bean base. (I swear, you can't taste anything but chocolate!)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited March 2016
    youngpip wrote: »
    Pizza is the main thing I crave too, sad that it's one of the highest calorie items you can get!

    At a 2lbs loss per week I guess you've got quite a low allowance so it could be tricky to fit pizza PLUS chocolate cake into one day (even with exercise). So you might want to look at your week as a whole and be a bit lower on other days so you can fit it into the week's calories.

    I'm not sure where you're coming from with that claim about pizza being one of the highest calorie items you can get; 1 slice (1/8) of a large cheese pizza at Domino's is 290 calories; one Lender's brand bagel, by comparison, is 230 calories. The pizza is probably more satisfying, thanks to the protein and fat (35g carbs, 12g protein, 11g fat, as compared to 48g carbs, 8g protein, 1g fat). 4oz of ground beef (1/4lb hamburger) is 287 calories by itself; eat that as a lettuce wrap, and you have more calories than that slice of pizza. I can make a salad with more calories than that slice of pizza.

    /Mind boggles at the thought of stopping at just one slice of pizza./

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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Paiger816 wrote: »
    You can also make low calorie pizzas with a tortilla, and the oven set on broil. Here's my favorite method of making them. A whole mini pizza under 200 calories!

    I don't eat dairy anymore due to an allergy, so I substitute with using less "cheese" (Daiya) - and mine are around 150 calories.

    I try to figure out how to make my favorite things with healthy food. These flourless black bean brownies are to die for. Low fat, gluten free, and dairy free. I take them everywhere, and people can't believe they're made with a black bean base. (I swear, you can't taste anything but chocolate!)

    I too make lower calorie versions of high calorie foods I like such as pizza, nachos, lasagna, etc. But that doesn't stop me from wanting and indulging in the higher calorie versions now and then.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,622 Member
    edited March 2016
    A little different view, possibly dangerous (plus it's long, and has math in it!):

    I think of the weight loss process as, in part, a time to learn how to eat healthily for the rest of my life. I don't plan to give up pizza for the rest of my life, so I need to figure out how it fits in.

    I never have had a cheat day - the concept doesn't even make sense to me! Cheat who? How?

    But I do eat over my weight-loss calorie goal sometimes . . . occasionally substantially over. And I log every bit of it as accurately as possible (even if estimating is required), so I know the impact. Sometimes, I do extra workouts, or - if it's a predictable special occasion - eat slightly lighter for a few days in advance to make some calorie room, and eat lightly at other meals that day.

    But mainly, I just do the arithmetic to see the impact, and learn from it. What if I eat (making up a realistic example) 1000 calories worth of pizza, and 500 calories of craft beer, and I've already eaten normal breakfast & lunch?

    When my daily goal was 1400, at around a 0.5lb/week loss rate, I probably would've eaten around 900 calories before dinnertime even arrived. So, the day's total eating would be 900 already eaten + 1000 pizza + 500 beer, or 2400 calories.

    My maintenance calories (neither gain nor lose) at that point would've been around 1900 a day (1400 calories I was eating + 500 daily calories of weight lost ( because (roughly 3500 calories in a pound / 2 because I'm losing only half a pound a week) / 7 days in a week) = 500 calories loss a day).

    Therefore, I've not lost any weight on pizza day (because I ate at least at maintenance) and I've even gained a bit (I ate over maintenance).

    What's the impact? You can look at that in terms of gain, or delay in achieving your ultimate goal.

    Gain: Because maintenance calories per day are 1900, I've gained about (2400 eaten - 1900 maintenance) of fat, or 500 calories worth. That's 1/7 of a pound.

    Delay: Clearly, I don't lose any weight on pizza day. I have that 500 extra to lose. How long will that take? At my 0.5/week loss rate, my daily deficit is 500 calories, so I don't lose anything the day after pizza day, either (except the excess pizza/beer weight). So I've delayed reaching my ultimate goal by two days.

    Is 1/7 pound of gain, or 2 days delay, a problem? That's an individual choice. Clearly, I can't do it often, or I'll never get to goal. Can I do it once a month, especially if it's a special occasion like my birthday or when out-of-town friends visit? Maybe so. The point is that I can evaluate the choice rationally.

    The big risk here is the most of us want to be "nice" to our current self more than we want help our future self be healthy, so it's easy to trade off a long-term goal for short-term pleasure. But if you can deal with that rationally, this is one approach for weighing (pun intended) the impact of over-goal days.

    P.S. I'm at goal weight, 5'5", weight in low 120s, having lost 1/3 of my bodyweight since April 2015. I've had at least a dozen or more substantially-over goal days along the way. This approach can work.

    E.T.A.: I will always see a water weight gain from an over day, potentially 2-5 pounds on the scale, but I've found that that disappears within a couple of days, for me. My mental math as per above has always tracked very well with my actual scale results, after the water weight is out of the picture.

    tl;dr: Learn how to do weight-management arithmetic in your head. It's easy, supports rational rather than emotional decision-making, and is a powerful approach that can work forever.
  • Fursian
    Fursian Posts: 566 Member
    Nice post @AnnPT77! :) In only this realm, can arithmetic give me the warm fuzzies, lol
  • sllm1
    sllm1 Posts: 2,130 Member
    Work them into your plan without it being "cheating."
  • tryin2die2self
    tryin2die2self Posts: 207 Member
    Words have power. Instead of having a cheat day, have a treat day. Negative connotation... gone.

    Second, cravings is your body asking for something but it might not be a good thing. When cut I wheat and processed foods from my diet, I was craving baked goods. Mad, crazy for baked goods. Then I got paleo flu. Then I got over it. Not to say the soda machine in the office has stopped calling my name (in that small, quiet voice that sounds like redrum) or the ice cream shop has some sort of magnetic pull on my soul. I don't feed those temptations and their pull has diminished but they are not gone.

    I work in a treat meal once a week, but I don't fall off the wagon when I do it. I stay true to the principles of my diet and carry on. For instance, I will go out to the steak house and kill a prime cut of meat, a large salad with a sensible dressing and a sweet potato (no butter, no sugar). Probably a 1,000 clean calories. We go to italian restaurant, I stay away from the pasta and get something else done right. Mexican, get fajitas just stay away from the tortillas and those tasty chips.

    It can be done. You just have to look at it a bit different.
  • erinlibke
    erinlibke Posts: 144 Member
    I get the Dr. Oetker thin crust pizza's. You can have half the pizza for between 380-440 depending on the kind. Then we have a nice big side salad to go along with it. So satisfying and easily fits into our daily calorie goals! Its usually our friday or saturday night meal as it really feels like a treat after having a good week!
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