paleo diet for those who binge(d)? also paleo+running?
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If you're absolutely impossible to control with binge eating, maybe you should cut out all the crappy food so you start to forget what it tastes like. I really enjoy donuts but it's been so long since I've had one, I don't even remember what they taste like anymore. Now I don't miss them. It could work for you. Best of luck.
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Since you can get a lot of great complex carbs from veggies (especially potatoes & yams), and simple sugars from fruits, I don't see why it should be a problem eating a paleo diet for running.
Paleo diet says no potatoes, dairy, beans, or lentils from what I'm reading.
Sweet potatoes are not potatoes, you could up your carbs with those if you're running alot and need more carbs.0 -
Paleo = no dairy, beans, potatoes, corn, lentils, grains
Primal = all the above but allows full fat dairy
Both advocate clean eating and both allow sweet potatoes, Vegs, fruit, nuts, eggs, etc
Check out Marksdailyapple.com. mark sisson was a marathoner and gives a ton of free info on his site. To lose weight keep carbs below 100 and eat .7-1 g of protein per lean body mass weight. Fill in the rest of your calories with healthy fats! I dont crave or binge on carbs anymore. It was an addiction for me that I m in recovery from now: )
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Treat yourself every once in a while to something totally sinful such as a donut...and trust me...you'll eat a bite or two of it and go wtf? Too sweet, to fake tasting, and you'll want to spit it out.
I know a lot of people try to say this, and actually I do eat very clean when I'm not relapsing into a binge, but I'm never going to eat something like a donut and hate it. It's not how I'm wired.
I can't ever allow myself to have a bite of something I tend to binge on. I think many people who recommend the "moderation" approach, never seriously struggled with binging hardcore. For me, one bite of a cookie leads to about 30 more cookies, then a pie, then a cake and pizza and more. It's far far far easier and safer to not allow any.
I don't do low carb for reducing fat any more, I do it to reduce binge-like cravings. If you can have just a little doughnuts or whatever - freaking awesome, but I can't.
I find even fruit and other "healthy" super sweet stuff tends to get my hormones lined up in a way that leads me down the short road to a heavy 3-4 day binge. It's much safer for me to stay away. I typically put down 10-14 thousand calories in a single binge day - and usually 3-4 days are strung together before I can snap out of it. It gets ugly.
Not all paleo people are low carb/keto - (although I am cyclical keto myeself) but for pretty easy fat loss, it seems to be the quickest way to go.
Just what works for me for what it's worth.0 -
Also - buy Robb Wolf's book The Paleo Solution. It's filled with good science and plenty of detail to go along with it. I like Mark Sisson's book, but find it a bit light on the science and heavy on the speculation for my tastes.0
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I can't ever allow myself to have a bite of something I tend to binge on. I think many people who recommend the "moderation" approach, never seriously struggled with binging hardcore. For me, one bite of a cookie leads to about 30 more cookies, then a pie, then a cake and pizza and more. It's far far far easier and safer to not allow any.
I don't do low carb for reducing fat any more, I do it to reduce binge-like cravings. If you can have just a little doughnuts or whatever - freaking awesome, but I can't.
I find even fruit and other "healthy" super sweet stuff tends to get my hormones lined up in a way that leads me down the short road to a heavy 3-4 day binge. It's much safer for me to stay away. I typically put down 10-14 thousand calories in a single binge day - and usually 3-4 days are strung together before I can snap out of it. It gets ugly.
Not all paleo people are low carb/keto - (although I am cyclical keto myeself) but for pretty easy fat loss, it seems to be the quickest way to go.
Just what works for me for what it's worth.
This is me exactly.0 -
Diary looks ok but from the reading I have done primal generally suggests that you limit the fruit a bit if you want to lose weight. 1-2 servings max. WHen you are in maintenance phase, bring them back in in larger quantities if you wish.
Check my diary if you want. Primal not paleo.
Agree on the sugar thing. I did have a few M&M's yesterday. Not required. Bought some 85% dark choc instead
I've only been doing primal for 1.5 weeks so far and my diet was pretty clean before anyway so can't really say I noticed a massive change in energy, sleep or workout performance (injured so difficult anyway). Actually the only thing I really changed was cutting out oats and beans. Has dropped carbs a fair bit for me but slightly higher fat intake made up for the cal difference.0 -
Also - buy Robb Wolf's book The Paleo Solution. It's filled with good science and plenty of detail to go along with it. I like Mark Sisson's book, but find it a bit light on the science and heavy on the speculation for my tastes.
I haven't read the book but I'm curious about what science is being presented. Obviously it's science against grain/dairy intake but what is it based on? Yes, obesity rates have climbed since the onset of agriculture but the argument of correlation as opposed to causation can be used there.
Also, is it true that Robb Wolf is against a lot of fruit intake? Like I said, I haven't read the book so I don't know. I'm just wondering if he's pro-Paleo or anti-carb because they're both quite different.0
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