Toning
BeYouTiful94
Posts: 289 Member
So, I've lost 10 pounds out of my 20 pound goal. I'm not seeing any definition to the areas that I wanted some definition to though, which isn't surprising since I only do cardio (and of course my calorie deficit but that has even less to do with toning than cardio does). So now I'm looking for some exercises to do to build strength, endurance, and tone up (particular my thighs and my stomach area) as I lose fat. I already drink a protein shake daily because I never hit my protein goal so I don't think I'm losing any lean muscle, I just don't know how to ... Build it up or whatever lol. Any suggestions for exercises, exercise programs, etc etc would be greatly appreciated
Edit: Also, I know many people say that women don't build big bulky muscles unless they really want to, but I just wanna kind of toss in there that that is NOT what I'm going for. Just wanting to slim down and tone up
Edit: Also, I know many people say that women don't build big bulky muscles unless they really want to, but I just wanna kind of toss in there that that is NOT what I'm going for. Just wanting to slim down and tone up
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You may like Strong Curves, by Bret Contreras. It is a book but he has also made the workout templates available online (google "strong curves pdf".) There are four programs: 1 full body lifting program for beginners, 1 full body lifting programs for advanced trainees, 1 full body bodyweight [i.e., no weights] program, 1 lower body only lifting program.) Check out the templates to see if it appeals to you.0
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Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Here
Read this: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/10/26/how-to-not-suck-at-working-out/
Get a programme
Books
Strong Curves Brett Contreras
New Rules of Lifting for Women or the new one Stronger
Structured online programmes
http://stronglifts.com/5x5/
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/jason-blaha-ice-cream-fitness-5x5-novice-workout
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/4-week-guide-starting-strength
Why?
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
If you can't bring yourself to do free weights yet then do a decent bodyweight programme
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/
But it all comes down to calorie intake for fat loss so don't forget your calorie counting
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p10 -
BeYouTiful94 wrote: »So, I've lost 10 pounds out of my 20 pound goal. I'm not seeing any definition to the areas that I wanted some definition to though, which isn't surprising since I only do cardio (and of course my calorie deficit but that has even less to do with toning than cardio does). So now I'm looking for some exercises to do to build strength, endurance, and tone up (particular my thighs and my stomach area) as I lose fat. I already drink a protein shake daily because I never hit my protein goal so I don't think I'm losing any lean muscle, I just don't know how to ... Build it up or whatever lol. Any suggestions for exercises, exercise programs, etc etc would be greatly appreciated
Edit: Also, I know many people say that women don't build big bulky muscles unless they really want to, but I just wanna kind of toss in there that that is NOT what I'm going for. Just wanting to slim down and tone up
So to clarify a few things. The only women who really get big and bulky, are generally on anabolic steriods. Some might appear a bit bulky based on muscle structure and body fat %, but that is very controllable (meaning, you don't need to cut down to 14% when you can stop at 18 or 20% if you like the look better).
Next, protein shakes don't bulk muscle. They are a supplement to help you reach your protein goal. And considering you struggle to hit the MFP protein goal and do all cardio, some muscle loss is more likely. Ideally, protein should be around .6 to .8g per lb of mass (not the MFP default of 20%).
@Rabbitjb addressed the rest and her post is very solid.
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I'm in the same boat and just started using the free Nike Training Club app to work on definition. It has some great reviews and workouts (with videos) to follow based on goals of getting lean, toned, or more muscular that don't require much equipment. There are even area specific (e.g. Legs, core) routines. Check it out if you have the time to do a few non-cardio workouts a week.0
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Thanks everyone for all the suggestions!
I definitely do my calorie counting on here to make sure I've got the deficit and to keep and eye on my macros. That's how I knew I wasn't getting enough protein before, which is why I started with the whey protein so that I now reach my protein goal. I glanced around for the strong curves pdf and found a 50 page sample of the book. It looks pretty interesting, so I'll definitely look into that when I have more time. I'll also check into Nike Training Club app. I'm so glad you said this! I remember I used to have it on my phone, but I wasn't serious at the time, so I ended up deleting it0 -
How many grams of protein are you getting?0
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MFP tells me to get 60, and I've been pretty good about getting right around 60 for the past couple of weeks. I'm usually around 61-64. Before I was sitting at like 20 grams a day if even that, which was super pitiful. Do I need more?0
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BeYouTiful94 wrote: »MFP tells me to get 60, and I've been pretty good about getting right around 60 for the past couple of weeks. I'm usually around 61-64. Before I was sitting at like 20 grams a day if even that, which was super pitiful. Do I need more?
While losing weight, to maximize the potential to maintain muscle you want to aim for roughly .6 to .8g per lb of weight. Most women i know are 100 to 125g. Also, having a small to moderate deficit with a progressive overload lifting program is needed to contribute.0 -
Holy whoa. Well then I'm wayyy off!
By deficit, you're talking about the calorie deficit right? And what's a progressive overload lifting program? Would that be to start lifting weights at some small amount and progressive add more?0 -
BeYouTiful94 wrote: »Holy whoa. Well then I'm wayyy off!
By deficit, you're talking about the calorie deficit right? And what's a progressive overload lifting program? Would that be to start lifting weights at some small amount and progressive add more?
All the programmes I posted up there involve progressive overload
Yes he means calorie defecit
And I agree with the minimum protein recommendations too ..mine is 100g minimum0 -
All the programmes I posted up there involve progressive overload
Yes he means calorie defecit
And I agree with the minimum protein recommendations too ..mine is 100g minimum
Oh okay! I didn't know that's what they were called, so thanks!
Last question: To lose fat, you're supposed to eat at a deficit. To build muscle you're supposed to eat more ... So to lose fat while building muscle I should .....??? I'm confused on the whole concept. One of the articles said the girl ate at least 3000 calories a day, which I'm not even sure I ate before I started trying to lose weight
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BeYouTiful94 wrote: »All the programmes I posted up there involve progressive overload
Yes he means calorie defecit
And I agree with the minimum protein recommendations too ..mine is 100g minimum
Oh okay! I didn't know that's what they were called, so thanks!
Last question: To lose fat, you're supposed to eat at a deficit. To build muscle you're supposed to eat more ... So to lose fat while building muscle I should .....??? I'm confused on the whole concept. One of the articles said the girl ate at least 3000 calories a day, which I'm not even sure I ate before I started trying to lose weight
Concentrate on one. But if you are sub 22% body fat, concentrate on losing fat and lift to help muscle retention and getting stronger.
You can do a thing called a recomp where you eat at maintenance, lift heavy and see minor fat loss and muscle building, but its very slow and sometimes doesn't really work.0 -
If you're losing fat then you have definitely lost at least a little bit of muscle. It's unavoidable. Also a single protein shake is nowhere near enough to reach a protein goal. Chances are your shake has about 23-26g of protein.
For gaining muscle you have to be in a caloric surplus. Lose the extra fat then progressively up your calories till you're at a surplus of around 250-350 calories a day. You definitely will not need to be consuming 3000 a day. When I started out at 153lbs 5'11 male. That was my calorie intake to gain. Now at 174 11% body fat I'm only consuming 3300 a day.
Once you start trying to gain, make sure you use an actual structured lifting program with progression, otherwise you'll never meet your goals. Too many people try to make their own with little knowledge on how to do so. Usually they end up doing 25 sets of curls and 5 different pressing exercises all targeting the same muscle. Generally leg days aren't included.0 -
BeYouTiful94 wrote: »Last question: To lose fat, you're supposed to eat at a deficit. To build muscle you're supposed to eat more ... So to lose fat while building muscle I should .....???
A calorie deficit will make you appear more "toned", which is what you said you wanted in your first post.
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Sweet, thank you all!0
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@rabbitjb has basically answered all your questions and her comments are sound.
I personally would recommend SL5X5 but only because that is the program I'm using and I find it easy to follow, easy to fit into the week and you will see quick progress which helps with motivation! I'm a 5ft6" female who has lost nearly 60lbs and I am now trying to get stronger and leaner. It took me months to build the confidence to start lifting and now I really wish I'd started earlier so my main advice would be to go for it now!
Look up IIFYM for better nutritional breakdowns than mfp defaults - you definitely need more protein. Concentrate on fat loss and maintaining the muscle you have - you need to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight and you can't build muscle in a deficit.0 -
@rabbitjb has basically answered all your questions and her comments are sound.
I personally would recommend SL5X5 but only because that is the program I'm using and I find it easy to follow, easy to fit into the week and you will see quick progress which helps with motivation! I'm a 5ft6" female who has lost nearly 60lbs and I am now trying to get stronger and leaner. It took me months to build the confidence to start lifting and now I really wish I'd started earlier so my main advice would be to go for it now!
Look up IIFYM for better nutritional breakdowns than mfp defaults - you definitely need more protein. Concentrate on fat loss and maintaining the muscle you have - you need to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight and you can't build muscle in a deficit.
Awesome, thank you as well
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Hey all, I have one more question (sorry, I know I've asked a lot already!). The gym in my apartment has a smith machine (I think that's what they're called). Soooo ... Being only 5'5", the bar won't go down far enough for me to do certain things, like the row. So I looked around and found a dumbbell weight lifting routine, and I'm wondering if that's as good as the barbell? I suppose I could buy my own barbell and drag it to the gym with me and just use their weighs lol, but I'm hoping dumbbell lifting is kind of the same???? Or maybe do barbell squats and bench presses and whatnot and then dumbbell rows and deadlifts and such (that I can't do with the attached barbell contraption)????0
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Also, I read something about the barbell contraption not being a "free weight" and something about natural motion paths? Does this matter a lot, and would that make just doing everything as a dumbbell exercise better than using the smith machine? Even for squats and bench presses?0
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Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
OP
The machines generally don't use as many muscles as they allow you to isolate specific areas more. Free weights often use surrounding muscle groups in balance and such, and are often preferred. Not to say that machine work won't help, it will.
While in deficit there are tons of ways to build some strength. Body weight type exercises, circuit type stuff, and others as well as conventional weight room type work can all allow for strength gains and progressive overload. You can workout while in deficit and still lose weight, and hopefully preserve most of your muscle mass in the process. For women muscle gains are slow even in calorie surplus, so avoiding any loss helps in the long run.0 -
robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
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I think "some at MFP" try to inform not based on incorrectly disseminated internet information or health and fitness misuse of words.
That definition, whilst widely used in the slimming world and tabloids, would not appear in any medical textbook and does not seem to appear in the OED or Merriam-Webster
OED
6
(also muscle tone)
[MASS NOUN] The normal level of firmness or slight contraction in a resting muscle:
a reduction of muscle tone
a certain amount of daily exercise is essential to maintain proper body tone and function
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
6.1 Physiology The normal level of activity in a nerve fibre:
vagal tone
Merriam-Webster
a : the state of a living body or of any of its organs or parts in which the functions are healthy and performed with due vigor
b : normal tension or responsiveness to stimuli; specifically : muscular tonus0 -
BeYouTiful94 wrote: »Hey all, I have one more question (sorry, I know I've asked a lot already!). The gym in my apartment has a smith machine (I think that's what they're called). Soooo ... Being only 5'5", the bar won't go down far enough for me to do certain things, like the row. So I looked around and found a dumbbell weight lifting routine, and I'm wondering if that's as good as the barbell? I suppose I could buy my own barbell and drag it to the gym with me and just use their weighs lol, but I'm hoping dumbbell lifting is kind of the same???? Or maybe do barbell squats and bench presses and whatnot and then dumbbell rows and deadlifts and such (that I can't do with the attached barbell contraption)????
Hi
You ask as many questions as you like ...that's the point of this place
I don't like smith machines, but my understanding is they were designed for squats, bench presses and not rows. This issue is they don't track natural movement so reduce the effectiveness of your lifts by not engaging your core fully also the risks of injury are greater
I would consider a dumbbell lifting routine superior to a smith machine
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robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
.
I think "some at MFP" try to inform not based on incorrectly disseminated internet information or health and fitness misuse of words.
That definition, whilst widely used in the slimming world and tabloids, would not appear in any medical textbook and does not seem to appear in the OED or Merriam-Webster
OED
6
(also muscle tone)
[MASS NOUN] The normal level of firmness or slight contraction in a resting muscle:
a reduction of muscle tone
a certain amount of daily exercise is essential to maintain proper body tone and function
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
6.1 Physiology The normal level of activity in a nerve fibre:
vagal tone
Merriam-Webster
a : the state of a living body or of any of its organs or parts in which the functions are healthy and performed with due vigor
b : normal tension or responsiveness to stimuli; specifically : muscular tonus
muscle tone
See tonus.
Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 9th edition. © 2009, Elsevier.
mus·cle tone (mŭs'ĕl tōn)
1. The internal state of muscle-fiber tension within individual muscles and muscle groups.
2. Degree of muscle tension or resistance during rest or in response to stretching.
See also: hypertonia, hypotonia (3)
Medical Dictionary for the Health Professions and Nursing © Farlex 2012
Muscle tone
Also termed tonus; the normal state of balanced tension in the tissues of the body, especially the muscles.
Mentioned in: Contractures
Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
muscle tone syn tonus (1) in skeletal muscle, a state of tension that is maintained continuously - minimally even when relaxed - and which increases in resistance to passive stretch. Pathologically, loss of tone (flaccidity) can be caused, e.g. by peripheral nerve damage, and exaggerated tone (spasticity) by overstimulation, e.g. when the activity of the relevant lower motor neurons is released from higher CNS control in spinal injury. The term is sometimes also used, incorrectly, to indicate general muscle strength. (2) In smooth muscle, steady tension maintained in the walls of hollow vessels; regulated mainly by autonomic innervation but influenced, e.g. in the walls of arterioles, by local variables: temperature, chemical factors or intravascular pressure, contributing to autoregulation of appropriate blood flow. See also stretch reflex.
Dictionary of Sport and Exercise Science and Medicine by Churchill Livingstone © 2008 Elsevier Limited. All rights reserved.
muscle tone background tension within resting muscle tissue (due to random activation of small numbers of muscle motor units)
Illustrated Dictionary of Podiatry and Foot Science by Jean Mooney © 2009 Elsevier Limited. All rights reserved.
tonus
A state of partial contraction present in a muscle in its passive state as, for example, when the eye is in the physiological position of rest. Syn. muscle tone. See resting state of accommodation; physiological position of rest; tonic vergence.
Millodot: Dictionary of Optometry and Visual Science, 7th edition. © 2009 Butterworth-Heinemann
All medical texts, references, and dictionaries. I'm sure someone will have to correct all the internet misinformation the medical community is using.0 -
robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
OP
The machines generally don't use as many muscles as they allow you to isolate specific areas more. Free weights often use surrounding muscle groups in balance and such, and are often preferred. Not to say that machine work won't help, it will.
While in deficit there are tons of ways to build some strength. Body weight type exercises, circuit type stuff, and others as well as conventional weight room type work can all allow for strength gains and progressive overload. You can workout while in deficit and still lose weight, and hopefully preserve most of your muscle mass in the process. For women muscle gains are slow even in calorie surplus, so avoiding any loss helps in the long run.
Dictionaries only explain how people use words (i.e., what they intend to describe, denote, or connote when they use a word). Just because a word exists doesn't mean that the thing or idea it refers to is real. I might possibly find "Superman" in a dictionary; that doesn't mean there's a guy from Krypton flying around in a cape.0 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
OP
The machines generally don't use as many muscles as they allow you to isolate specific areas more. Free weights often use surrounding muscle groups in balance and such, and are often preferred. Not to say that machine work won't help, it will.
While in deficit there are tons of ways to build some strength. Body weight type exercises, circuit type stuff, and others as well as conventional weight room type work can all allow for strength gains and progressive overload. You can workout while in deficit and still lose weight, and hopefully preserve most of your muscle mass in the process. For women muscle gains are slow even in calorie surplus, so avoiding any loss helps in the long run.
Dictionaries only explain how people use words (i.e., what they intend to describe, denote, or connote when they use a word). Just because a word exists doesn't mean that the thing or idea it refers to is real. I might possibly find "Superman" in a dictionary; that doesn't mean there's a guy from Krypton flying around in a cape.
See the post above yours. Those are all medical references. Apparently the medical community has use for the term, otherwise they wouldn't bother to define it.0 -
robertw486 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
OP
The machines generally don't use as many muscles as they allow you to isolate specific areas more. Free weights often use surrounding muscle groups in balance and such, and are often preferred. Not to say that machine work won't help, it will.
While in deficit there are tons of ways to build some strength. Body weight type exercises, circuit type stuff, and others as well as conventional weight room type work can all allow for strength gains and progressive overload. You can workout while in deficit and still lose weight, and hopefully preserve most of your muscle mass in the process. For women muscle gains are slow even in calorie surplus, so avoiding any loss helps in the long run.
Dictionaries only explain how people use words (i.e., what they intend to describe, denote, or connote when they use a word). Just because a word exists doesn't mean that the thing or idea it refers to is real. I might possibly find "Superman" in a dictionary; that doesn't mean there's a guy from Krypton flying around in a cape.
See the post above yours. Those are all medical references. Apparently the medical community has use for the term, otherwise they wouldn't bother to define it.
Yes, I'm familiar with those definitions. Those are not the ways OP and other people who talk about "toning" are using the word, when they think they can change their muscle tone by lifting. Note, from one of your definitionsThe term is sometimes also used, incorrectly, to indicate general muscle strength.
In the medical context they're talking about the level of tension of a muscle in the relaxed state, not how sharply defined your abs, delts, or triceps are (the latter being what people who ask about exercises to get "toned" generally seem to be talking about).0 -
robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
.
I think "some at MFP" try to inform not based on incorrectly disseminated internet information or health and fitness misuse of words.
That definition, whilst widely used in the slimming world and tabloids, would not appear in any medical textbook and does not seem to appear in the OED or Merriam-Webster
OED
6
(also muscle tone)
[MASS NOUN] The normal level of firmness or slight contraction in a resting muscle:
a reduction of muscle tone
a certain amount of daily exercise is essential to maintain proper body tone and function
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
6.1 Physiology The normal level of activity in a nerve fibre:
vagal tone
Merriam-Webster
a : the state of a living body or of any of its organs or parts in which the functions are healthy and performed with due vigor
b : normal tension or responsiveness to stimuli; specifically : muscular tonus
Uhm, still fighting with the vocabulary? You have to look at the VERB definition, just below..
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/tone
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Gianfranco_R wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
.
I think "some at MFP" try to inform not based on incorrectly disseminated internet information or health and fitness misuse of words.
That definition, whilst widely used in the slimming world and tabloids, would not appear in any medical textbook and does not seem to appear in the OED or Merriam-Webster
OED
6
(also muscle tone)
[MASS NOUN] The normal level of firmness or slight contraction in a resting muscle:
a reduction of muscle tone
a certain amount of daily exercise is essential to maintain proper body tone and function
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
6.1 Physiology The normal level of activity in a nerve fibre:
vagal tone
Merriam-Webster
a : the state of a living body or of any of its organs or parts in which the functions are healthy and performed with due vigor
b : normal tension or responsiveness to stimuli; specifically : muscular tonus
Uhm, still fighting with the vocabulary? You have to look at the VERB definition, just below..
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/tone
Again, just because enough people use a word to express a false concept that a dictionary takes notes of that usage doesn't mean the concept reflects the way the world really works (see "detox"). What is it that you think happens to a muscles when you "tone" it? Because the only thing you can change about your muscles is to build more muscle mass, or to lose muscle mass. You can also lose fat and make the muscle appear more defined, but you're not actually doing anything to the muscle in that case, so saying you're toning the muscle would be pretty nonsensical.0 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Gianfranco_R wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
.
I think "some at MFP" try to inform not based on incorrectly disseminated internet information or health and fitness misuse of words.
That definition, whilst widely used in the slimming world and tabloids, would not appear in any medical textbook and does not seem to appear in the OED or Merriam-Webster
OED
6
(also muscle tone)
[MASS NOUN] The normal level of firmness or slight contraction in a resting muscle:
a reduction of muscle tone
a certain amount of daily exercise is essential to maintain proper body tone and function
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
6.1 Physiology The normal level of activity in a nerve fibre:
vagal tone
Merriam-Webster
a : the state of a living body or of any of its organs or parts in which the functions are healthy and performed with due vigor
b : normal tension or responsiveness to stimuli; specifically : muscular tonus
Uhm, still fighting with the vocabulary? You have to look at the VERB definition, just below..
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/tone
Again, just because enough people use a word to express a false concept that a dictionary takes notes of that usage doesn't mean the concept reflects the way the world really works (see "detox"). What is it that you think happens to a muscles when you "tone" it? Because the only thing you can change about your muscles is to build more muscle mass, or to lose muscle mass. You can also lose fat and make the muscle appear more defined, but you're not actually doing anything to the muscle in that case, so saying you're toning the muscle would be pretty nonsensical.
^ This. Ridiculous pedantry aside, there is no such thing as "toning" as muscle or having "toned" muscles. There are physiological terms for muscles getting larger (hypertrophy) or smaller (atrophy) - now let's have one of the pedants provide the physiological term for "toning" a muscle.
Here's a link which describes what "toning" actually is, and how to accomplish it: http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/muscle-tone/0 -
@BeYouTiful94 I'm sorry your thread has been hijacked and I feel responsible for assuming when you spoke in your OP about toning you meant that visual look of tone that the magazines speak of (which relates to lower body fat revealing musculature) rather than actual working on actual muscles which is the true definition
I don't think any of this matters as your thread appears to have provided you with the information you requestedGianfranco_R wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »Just as a point of order toning doesn't really exist, muscles get bigger or smaller and fat reduces to show muscles
Just a point of order, but the dictionary isn't defined by MFP terms. The first search for the word tone brings up the following on my home page...
tone
tōn/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: toning
1.
give greater strength or firmness to (the body or a part of it).
"exercise tones up the muscles"
It seems to be another in a string of words that some at MFP oppose, even though dictionary's support it.
.
I think "some at MFP" try to inform not based on incorrectly disseminated internet information or health and fitness misuse of words.
That definition, whilst widely used in the slimming world and tabloids, would not appear in any medical textbook and does not seem to appear in the OED or Merriam-Webster
OED
6
(also muscle tone)
[MASS NOUN] The normal level of firmness or slight contraction in a resting muscle:
a reduction of muscle tone
a certain amount of daily exercise is essential to maintain proper body tone and function
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
6.1 Physiology The normal level of activity in a nerve fibre:
vagal tone
Merriam-Webster
a : the state of a living body or of any of its organs or parts in which the functions are healthy and performed with due vigor
b : normal tension or responsiveness to stimuli; specifically : muscular tonus
Uhm, still fighting with the vocabulary? You have to look at the VERB definition, just below..
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/tone
Oh I did ...it means exactly what I said
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