Gastric sleeve and now gaining :( help!!
JenBalderas
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I had the gastric sleeve in December of 2014. I had my fourth child in July of 2014. When I went in for my c-section I weighed 380 lbs. I was horrified. I had retained alot of fluid but knew I could get with big without being pregnant. My highest weight without being pregnant was 355. I was miserable. I got the sleeve and felt amazing!! For the first 6 months. My lowest weight was 244lbs. Then I let my old habits creep back in. Drinking pop, overeating, snacking. I'm now 276 lbs and I'm a year and 3 months out. I know if I don't change something I will get back up to my biggest. I find it hard not to munch. I've seen keto but that seems difficult and there's alot of mixed reviews. Just wanting some advice and if anyone has been in a situation like this before. Thanks!!!
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Just find your calories in s good calculator don't eat exercise calories you know what's making you regain its like anything too many calories = weight gain
Be strict find a new hobbies new friends new exercise and get counselling rinse why food comforts you ( hugs )1 -
you have to log your calories "accurately" and make sure you are in a slight calorie deficit and over the next year you can lose significant weight. outside of that, there is no solution. Its just the facts. you are here so that is step one, well done. Now get into the program and start logging. walking is great if you can but not required, however i believe it will benefit you from a general health standpoint as well as a motivator with respect to what kind of shape you are in. Don't despair...you can do this. but its time and effort all of which only you can provide. Best of luck! Just do it! why not????1
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I was not in the same situation as yours but when I am giving up some junk food. I didn't went cold turkey. First thing I gave up was sugary drink like soda, fruit juice, and other drinking calories. Next, I gave up chips. The thing is to tackle one thing at the time. If you immediately cut all unhealthy food at once, the temptation to eat and the stress will weigh you down. One at the time helps. You have to aim for a lifestyle change not think about this is a "diet".0
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Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
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HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
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Sorry to say but unless you get counselling it will be a never ending cycle of yoyoing
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Now that I eat more protein in relationship to carbs, I no longer have the munchies in between meals.1
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A friend of mine went through this. She had the surgery, lost nearly 200lbs, had skin removal surgery and looked great for a short while. Unfortunately, she never changed her eating habits, wouldn't eat veggies or fruit, would order dinner and two appetizers when we went out to eat and the weight came back.
So, what do you do? You have to refocus yourself. You have children to take care of and that requires energy. You have children to raise and that requires you be here with them. Either you want change or you don't. (Counseling may not be a bad idea).
Start off just making small changes, swap something bad for something good once a day. Drink one less pop and one more glass of water. Take a walk (my first walk was a total of seven minutes long, 3.5 each way, it was all I could do). Take your kids with you for a walk and make it an adventure (find leaves or something).
Don't think of a 'fad' kind of diet, its too restricting. Why don't you try WW? This way if you crave a piece of pizza, you can work it into your daily allowance. I think that's a good starting point because you learn very quickly that if you want to feel full throughout the day, you have to eat your healthier foods. In lieu of that, just make healthier choices, stick to portion sizes and start logging your food.
This takes discipline. It takes dedication and it takes perseverance. You CAN do it but you have to put in the effort. It takes three weeks to break a habit and its about the same for a lot of your food cravings to stop. Once you get through that part, you will notice how much better you are starting to feel and it gets easier to stick with a healthy eating plan. Good luck to you, you can do this!!0 -
songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
How is that wrong? (Legitimately curious) Every person who I've spoken with who has had some form of stomach alteration surgery has still had to count calories and watch portion sizes. Is it a matter of forbidden foods or something?1 -
This happens often
Think back to your consultations around your surgery, to the advice you were given and the protocols you were to follow
You were warned this wasn't a quick fix but required your effort and commitment
You need to commit
You know how to lose weight ...it is not by jumping on the next bandwagon but by monitoring your intake and burn
Speak to your doctor and commit1 -
Cant undestand doctors do these surgeries and dont follow up a dietitian should be in the Picture for a long time and the doctor should do long term follow ups and of corse your primary care doctor should see when there is a problem and help before it gets out of control.0
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Eat more veggies.
Find a new hobby and turn to that instead of snacks.
Plan your meals so that you are never wondering what to eat next.
When you find yourself reaching for a snack, have a glass of water and wait five minutes. Do you still want the snack?
Schedule in your exercise. Find something you enjoy. I actually find it empowering to tell someone I can't do X because I have to go to dance class for my own mental health.
I find that whenever I get back on track, I need to read about being healthy, almost obsessively, at least as much as I was snacking before. Thanks to these boards, there is never a shortage of reading material, even if some of it is a little wacky.0 -
AbigailC17 wrote: »I was not in the same situation as yours but when I am giving up some junk food. I didn't went cold turkey. First thing I gave up was sugary drink like soda, fruit juice, and other drinking calories. Next, I gave up chips. The thing is to tackle one thing at the time. If you immediately cut all unhealthy food at once, the temptation to eat and the stress will weigh you down. One at the time helps. You have to aim for a lifestyle change not think about this is a "diet".
Good advice. Change one thing at a time. Always look for how you can be healthier and more active.0 -
Op- forget all the tips and tricks your reading about . it comes down to one thing and one thing only for weight loss - cico.
If you eat at a calorie deficit - you will lose weight .
Calorie deficit- weight loss
Calorie surplus - weight gain
There's no reason to jump on the band wagon and try fad diets for weight loss . all you need to do is eat less then you burn. Its that simple for weight loss.
As you have found out, there's no quick fixes or easy ways out. There's no surgery that will forever fix your relationship with foods. There's no special diet that will magically help shred the pounds away. If you want to lose weight and have lasting results, you must be willing to put in the hard work needed. Get yourself a food scale and start by learning how to weigh all your solids and measure your liquids. Log them all here on mfp.0 -
ManiacalLaugh wrote: »songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
How is that wrong? (Legitimately curious) Every person who I've spoken with who has had some form of stomach alteration surgery has still had to count calories and watch portion sizes. Is it a matter of forbidden foods or something?
Possibly. I know I had a friend who got the band and found that she couldn't eat all of the same foods as she used to. But I don't know what about his advice was bad, but then again I've never had this surgery. I wonder if it was the soda portion? But OP's already drinking soda, so I don't see how that could be it.0 -
You may have had a surgery to help, but in the end you still simply and only need to eat less. Drink less. Consume less.
This terrifies me, because my mother is spending all her savings in a few weeks to fly to Mexico for this surgery, somehow thinking it's going to be magical and the rules will change and she will be able to continue her current life. I know that's not true, and you now have seen it for yourself. You still have to make lifestyle changes that are sustainable. God willing my mother survives her procedure, I fear in a few years we'll see her in the same position.0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »Op- forget all the tips and tricks your reading about . it comes down to one thing and one thing only for weight loss - cico.
If you eat at a calorie deficit - you will lose weight .
Calorie deficit- weight loss
Calorie surplus - weight gain
There's no reason to jump on the band wagon and try fad diets for weight loss . all you need to do is eat less then you burn. Its that simple for weight loss.
As you have found out, there's no quick fixes or easy ways out. There's no surgery that will forever fix your relationship with foods. There's no special diet that will magically help shred the pounds away. If you want to lose weight and have lasting results, you must be willing to put in the hard work needed. Get yourself a food scale and start by learning how to weigh all your solids and measure your liquids. Log them all here on mfp.
You are confusing fads with steps that can help you control CICO. It is one thing for someone with a lifetime of bad habits to know what needs to happen, it is another thing to make it happen.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Now that I eat more protein in relationship to carbs, I no longer have the munchies in between meals.
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samanthakbowman wrote: »AbigailC17 wrote: »I was not in the same situation as yours but when I am giving up some junk food. I didn't went cold turkey. First thing I gave up was sugary drink like soda, fruit juice, and other drinking calories. Next, I gave up chips. The thing is to tackle one thing at the time. If you immediately cut all unhealthy food at once, the temptation to eat and the stress will weigh you down. One at the time helps. You have to aim for a lifestyle change not think about this is a "diet".
Good advice. Change one thing at a time. Always look for how you can be healthier and more active.
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Small changes go a long way as long as you keep to them and do not introduce treats for being a good girl.
I gave up pop and I am now a tea and water total. This saves a lot of calories!
I started exercising. To begin with, just walking, then I downloaded the C25K app and got into running and now I am running full marathons. Oe of the most helpful gadgets for me was the Fitbit One (step tracker) and later on a multisportswatch, as they both motivated me to move more and to "earn" calories. (Do not eat them all back though, just a part of it)
Instead of taking away from my dinner plate - I added! I loaded my plate with veggies and made myself eat them first. You can eat tons of veggies and stay at low calories.
My cookie treats were exchanged with an apple, some berries or other low calorie fruit.
I started logging everything here on MFP and I bought myself a weight scale to be honest with myself and my portions.
Anyhow, at the end of the day it boils down to iron will. If you really want (!) to get better, you can.
Best of luck
Stef.
P.S. And yes...what others said, you should talk to your doctor and nutritionist!
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ManiacalLaugh wrote: »songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
How is that wrong? (Legitimately curious) Every person who I've spoken with who has had some form of stomach alteration surgery has still had to count calories and watch portion sizes. Is it a matter of forbidden foods or something?
No diet sodas or any sodas for people who have had the sleeve surgery.
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ManiacalLaugh wrote: »songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
How is that wrong? (Legitimately curious) Every person who I've spoken with who has had some form of stomach alteration surgery has still had to count calories and watch portion sizes. Is it a matter of forbidden foods or something?
No diet sodas or any sodas for people who have had the sleeve surgery.
Why?
Also, OP did say she is drinking soda again, so I understand why others might be confused.0 -
Thanks everyone! I'm going to start logging in and keeping tract. I guess I'm pretty much looking for a fast and easy way to lose. And it's gonna take some hard work and self control. You guys have really motivated me. Thank you!!!0
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ClosetBayesian wrote: »ManiacalLaugh wrote: »songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
How is that wrong? (Legitimately curious) Every person who I've spoken with who has had some form of stomach alteration surgery has still had to count calories and watch portion sizes. Is it a matter of forbidden foods or something?
No diet sodas or any sodas for people who have had the sleeve surgery.
Why?
Also, OP did say she is drinking soda again, so I understand why others might be confused.
The carbonation comes out of the soda in the stomach and acts to expand a stomach that's had surgery to make it small.0 -
I had a VSG in 2012. I lost the weight quickly & maintained for 2 years. Then, I regained quite a bit--thankfully not everything. I had a horrible year & just stopped taking care of myself & started binging. That whole year was just a continuous binge for me. I am really thankful for the sleeve because I was restricted in the amount that I could physically put in my stomach. Instead of sitting down & eating a whole package of cookies, I could only eat some of them.
I am now 12 lbs from my maintenance weight & will be back at maintenance within the next 2 months.
I started by going back to my doctor so I would have some accountability in my eating & monitoring of my nutrition & blood work. I see her monthly again. It was embarrassing & hard to admit that I'd gone all haywire. When you lose weight without surgery & regain, everyone is much more understanding. When you have WLS & regain, there are a lot of people waiting to tell you what a big mistake you've made--you've wasted all that money, you haven't learned anything because you took the "easy way out", etc. You don't want to be one of those failure stories everyone trots out when WLS comes up. Pretty early on in my binging, I stopped going to any of my doctors.
I still have my sleeve & can still make use of it. I went back to eating like I did right after my surgery: no liquids 30 minutes before or after a meal, no sodas, no straws, protein first during a meal & get in at least 80g per day, no more than 3/4 cup of food per meal (volume-wise), I cut my calories down to my "losing" amount, I started taking all my vitamins again, I weigh & log everything religiously, I pre-plan everything I eat. I make sure I include sweets because I know that it's not a sustainable plan for me if I don't. These are all the things that I did right after surgery--your specifics may be different. Just go back to the basics. If you don't have your packet anymore, ask your doctor for another one.
My doctor is really big on keto eating. I really hate it. I didn't like most of the foods on her list of "acceptable" foods & I felt like crap with under 35g of carbs. It was so complicated. I like beans & lentils & milk & they weren't on my approved list. It would never have been a sustainable eating plan for me. I eat moderate carb anyway, simply because I eat my protein first, but I do not do keto. I just count my calories & pay attention to my protein. If it keto something that you think you will stick with, there isn't any harm in trying it.
You've lost the weight before & can again. You're only 32lbs from your lowest weight. You can totally knock that out & keep going.
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I had a VSG in 2012. I lost the weight quickly & maintained for 2 years. Then, I regained quite a bit--thankfully not everything. I had a horrible year & just stopped taking care of myself & started binging. That whole year was just a continuous binge for me. I am really thankful for the sleeve because I was restricted in the amount that I could physically put in my stomach. Instead of sitting down & eating a whole package of cookies, I could only eat some of them.
I am now 12 lbs from my maintenance weight & will be back at maintenance within the next 2 months.
I started by going back to my doctor so I would have some accountability in my eating & monitoring of my nutrition & blood work. I see her monthly again. It was embarrassing & hard to admit that I'd gone all haywire. When you lose weight without surgery & regain, everyone is much more understanding. When you have WLS & regain, there are a lot of people waiting to tell you what a big mistake you've made--you've wasted all that money, you haven't learned anything because you took the "easy way out", etc. You don't want to be one of those failure stories everyone trots out when WLS comes up. Pretty early on in my binging, I stopped going to any of my doctors.
I still have my sleeve & can still make use of it. I went back to eating like I did right after my surgery: no liquids 30 minutes before or after a meal, no sodas, no straws, protein first during a meal & get in at least 80g per day, no more than 3/4 cup of food per meal (volume-wise), I cut my calories down to my "losing" amount, I started taking all my vitamins again, I weigh & log everything religiously, I pre-plan everything I eat. I make sure I include sweets because I know that it's not a sustainable plan for me if I don't. These are all the things that I did right after surgery--your specifics may be different. Just go back to the basics. If you don't have your packet anymore, ask your doctor for another one.
My doctor is really big on keto eating. I really hate it. I didn't like most of the foods on her list of "acceptable" foods & I felt like crap with under 35g of carbs. It was so complicated. I like beans & lentils & milk & they weren't on my approved list. It would never have been a sustainable eating plan for me. I eat moderate carb anyway, simply because I eat my protein first, but I do not do keto. I just count my calories & pay attention to my protein. If it keto something that you think you will stick with, there isn't any harm in trying it.
You've lost the weight before & can again. You're only 32lbs from your lowest weight. You can totally knock that out & keep going.
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I really needed to hear this. It was so hard for me to post on here but I knew I needed the accountability and the advice. I do feel like a failure because of having the weight loss surgery and now gaining. I know my sleeve still works because I can't eat near as much as I use to. But I graze and I drink regular pop. Tomorrow is a new day and I'm confident I can do this!
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songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
Actually, nothing the person above said should conflict with bypass. Maybe you thought they were saying to use fruit juices or nut butters but they are saying beware, as in, alot of calories. Definitely consult your doctor, but the above advice is good information as well.0 -
Two of my best friends had the gastric sleeve done. They've followed the diet laid out for them by their doctor and they have maintained their weight loss. Unfortunately, in my opinion even with the sleeve there's no easy solution. You have to hold yourself accountable. You have to know what you can and can't eat and actually do it. Best of luck.0
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I had a VSG in 2012. I lost the weight quickly & maintained for 2 years. Then, I regained quite a bit--thankfully not everything. I had a horrible year & just stopped taking care of myself & started binging. That whole year was just a continuous binge for me. I am really thankful for the sleeve because I was restricted in the amount that I could physically put in my stomach. Instead of sitting down & eating a whole package of cookies, I could only eat some of them.
I am now 12 lbs from my maintenance weight & will be back at maintenance within the next 2 months.
I started by going back to my doctor so I would have some accountability in my eating & monitoring of my nutrition & blood work. I see her monthly again. It was embarrassing & hard to admit that I'd gone all haywire. When you lose weight without surgery & regain, everyone is much more understanding. When you have WLS & regain, there are a lot of people waiting to tell you what a big mistake you've made--you've wasted all that money, you haven't learned anything because you took the "easy way out", etc. You don't want to be one of those failure stories everyone trots out when WLS comes up. Pretty early on in my binging, I stopped going to any of my doctors.
I still have my sleeve & can still make use of it. I went back to eating like I did right after my surgery: no liquids 30 minutes before or after a meal, no sodas, no straws, protein first during a meal & get in at least 80g per day, no more than 3/4 cup of food per meal (volume-wise), I cut my calories down to my "losing" amount, I started taking all my vitamins again, I weigh & log everything religiously, I pre-plan everything I eat. I make sure I include sweets because I know that it's not a sustainable plan for me if I don't. These are all the things that I did right after surgery--your specifics may be different. Just go back to the basics. If you don't have your packet anymore, ask your doctor for another one.
My doctor is really big on keto eating. I really hate it. I didn't like most of the foods on her list of "acceptable" foods & I felt like crap with under 35g of carbs. It was so complicated. I like beans & lentils & milk & they weren't on my approved list. It would never have been a sustainable eating plan for me. I eat moderate carb anyway, simply because I eat my protein first, but I do not do keto. I just count my calories & pay attention to my protein. If it keto something that you think you will stick with, there isn't any harm in trying it.
You've lost the weight before & can again. You're only 32lbs from your lowest weight. You can totally knock that out & keep going.
I agree that many people will view it as the easy way out. The reality is that it alters your physiology and can lead to lifelong struggles that others don't face. One of the biggest reasons bariatric surgeries fail is from not addressing the underlying issues. From speaking to many bariatric patients, the decision is usually made either in fear (for their health/life) or desperation (feeling like the amount of weight loss the want to accomplish is insurmountable). I think your decision to go back to your doctor for accountability was a great decision. The fact that you owned your responsibility in it makes a big difference.
OP, I think this is a great example, and great advice. Start with your doctor, ask for a referral to a registered dietician to help you develop a plan that is sustainable for you. I know many people say that weight loss and exercise is great for depression, I personally didn't find this to be the case. I needed counselling. If this is the case for you, reach out for the help you need. I couldn't have made the changes I did without the proper support systems in place. I think you are very brave for reaching out here. I believe you can do this.0 -
first, opening yourself up here takes a lot of courage, so bravo
i don't have the sleeve yet, but a few things popped into my mind:
do not drink ANYTHING carbonated. it stretches the stomach and can make overeating easier.
do not drink your calories. they'll slide right into your hips.
avoid "slider" foods. to feel satiated i was told to always choose a thicker meal that would stick in the stomach a bit longer to encourage satiety.
increase MICRONUTRIENT density, not caloric density. sometimes we get hungry because we haven't eaten enough good stuff - if your stomach is the size of a banana, that's even more likely.ManiacalLaugh wrote: »songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
How is that wrong? (Legitimately curious) Every person who I've spoken with who has had some form of stomach alteration surgery has still had to count calories and watch portion sizes. Is it a matter of forbidden foods or something?
yes, there are forbidden foods. if you let your stomach fill with water or any other liquid, you will not be able to ingest enough nutrients, so you time your water far enough in advance that it clears through so you can eat. "slider" foods are things like mashed potatoes or cream soups that get released from your stomach so quickly you can ingest a great deal of calories without realizing it. sodas stretch the stomach/pouch, thereby negating the restrictive aspect of the surgery. and single ingredient foods - good as long as you make sure the meal overall is balanced. she'll need to get protein at each meal but can get a small serving of chicken and a major variety of stir-fried or steamed veggies, it doesn't have to be one or two foods (i believe you may be referring to prepackaged food, but just in case i'm wrong).
a bariatric patient has to take extra care to get the micronutrients in and the protein to keep up healthy lean mass. a dieter that has a normal digestive system does not have the same considerations. hope this answers the question 0 -
first, opening yourself up here takes a lot of courage, so bravo
i don't have the sleeve yet, but a few things popped into my mind:
do not drink ANYTHING carbonated. it stretches the stomach and can make overeating easier.
do not drink your calories. they'll slide right into your hips.
avoid "slider" foods. to feel satiated i was told to always choose a thicker meal that would stick in the stomach a bit longer to encourage satiety.
increase MICRONUTRIENT density, not caloric density. sometimes we get hungry because we haven't eaten enough good stuff - if your stomach is the size of a banana, that's even more likely.ManiacalLaugh wrote: »songbird13291 wrote: »HamsterManV2 wrote: »Weight gain/loss is determined by one thing: calories in vs calories out. Simply go on google, type in "TDEE Calculator", and enter you age, height, sex, weight, and activity level.
Using that number, eat -500 calories of that daily to lose 1lb per week. No ifs or buts. That means you might have to buy a digital weight scale and have a myfitnesspal account, and start measuring every single thing you put in your mouth.
Remember, overweight people tend to underestimate how much they are eating (and inversely, underweight people overestimate how much they eat).
Additional tips:
Drink lots of water so you are not always hungry
Drink a glass of water before a meal, it will help fill you up before you eat
Replace sodas with diet sodas - 0 calories so that helps keep it low
Eat lots of single ingredient foods - fish, chicken, fruits, etc. Obviously dressed to how you like it, but beware - sauces with olive oil or ranch is high in calories.
Beware: Fruit juices (filled with sugar and calories), too many nuts, spreadables (i.e. peanut butter), shakes (400 calories?? That's 2/3s of my meal!), starbucks fraps, and frozen microwavable meals.
And remember, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The longer it takes for you to get to your goal, the more permanent it is.
No!!!!! The OP had bariatric surgery. Some of the advice you just laid out is 100% wrong for a person who has had bariatric surgery.
OP, you must have consulted a nutritionist prior to your surgery. Perhaps you should speak with that person regarding what you should and should not be eating.
How is that wrong? (Legitimately curious) Every person who I've spoken with who has had some form of stomach alteration surgery has still had to count calories and watch portion sizes. Is it a matter of forbidden foods or something?
yes, there are forbidden foods. if you let your stomach fill with water or any other liquid, you will not be able to ingest enough nutrients, so you time your water far enough in advance that it clears through so you can eat. "slider" foods are things like mashed potatoes or cream soups that get released from your stomach so quickly you can ingest a great deal of calories without realizing it. sodas stretch the stomach/pouch, thereby negating the restrictive aspect of the surgery. and single ingredient foods - good as long as you make sure the meal overall is balanced. she'll need to get protein at each meal but can get a small serving of chicken and a major variety of stir-fried or steamed veggies, it doesn't have to be one or two foods (i believe you may be referring to prepackaged food, but just in case i'm wrong).
a bariatric patient has to take extra care to get the micronutrients in and the protein to keep up healthy lean mass. a dieter that has a normal digestive system does not have the same considerations. hope this answers the question
Admittedly, I know very little about bariatric surgery, but I'm pretty sure the bolded part is incorrect.0
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