Diet pills!
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What were the rude parts again? The people posting about the dangerous side effects of diet pills? Or the poster telling us about her uncle's death due to said side effects?0
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sarahfrahane wrote: »So, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but after a scroll I couldn't see anything so...
What's the consensus with diet pills? Are some perscription ones worth getting? What is the science behind them? And with a calorie deficit and exercise, are they likely to contribute positively to weight loss?
Survey says:
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Only way to lose weight is being in a caloric deficit. Anything else is a scam.0
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »What were the rude parts again? The people posting about the dangerous side effects of diet pills? Or the poster telling us about her uncle's death due to said side effects?
I think it was the insinuation that no one is a special sneauxflake that can only lose weight with diet pills (eye roll)0 -
The ones back in the day that had ephedra were good if you snorted them for a quick buzz. But that's all really. If you want to lose weight right got to earn it0
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Andrewcpimpin wrote: »The ones back in the day that had ephedra were good if you snorted them for a quick buzz. But that's all really. If you want to lose weight right got to earn it
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I'll take my cup of java every time..
And the magic diet pilz? If they worked and were not dangerous, we would all be high on diet pilz!0 -
People on this thread are so rude.
I have pcos and Im borderline diabetic. I have tried dieting on my own and the same thing happens every time: normal diet+exercise doesnt work and I gain/stay the same weight or I have to go to extremes, ill loose about 0.5kg per fortnight then gain it back as soon as i eat a Normal human amount or dont go to the gym 7xpw (1600cals is a normal amount btw)
Saying that diet pills are weight loss surgery is a big hoax, that those people are lazy and "its all in our head" and were basically taking 'speed' is highly offensive. Im sorry my metabolism is fu*ked and so are my hormones. Way to go to make people who need weight loss surgery because they have an addiction to food feel like *kitten* for it and way to go to make people with medical issues feel like *kitten* for needing help too.
If your looking into diet pills go to your doctor and ask them for advice. Dont buy anything online and make sure you have tried proper dieting and exercise beforehand and maybe ask for an appointment with a dietician to help you while on or before u start taking the medication. And be sure to drink plenty of water aswell. Ive heard duromine 15mg is usually good with few side effects but it is slow to aid weightloss and metaformin can help if you have insulin issues. But these are prescription only.
A daily multivitamin is good for general wellbeing.
I missed that part, where did someone call people lazy??0 -
I took Duromine for years and I lost a lot of weight. I also lost a battle with depression and being so young didn't realise it was from the medication nor did my dr take me off it.
I stopped taking them and put on some weight but it wasn't huge until another bout of depression and my weight ballooned.
I took them again recently to kick start my weight loss because I seriously couldn't get out of bed. I only took them for 4 weeks lost about 10kgs. This time while I was taking them I made sure I started logging and really looking at my calorie intake and how to diet. I used the energy they gave me to start using mfp and exercing. You do feel flat for a few days coming off them but if you're determined they can help but they can't actually keep the weight off long term, that's just down to if you're committed or not. Since I've stopped taking them I've lost another 7kgs just by eating right.
People are right though they aren't good for you. So please don't use them long term.1 -
I'm always amazed at how taboo diet pills are. I gained a TON of weight in only nine months. I needed to figure out what was going on with my body, but I also needed to quickly get the weight off because it was not healthy. I talked to my doctor. We ran a gamut of tests and determined it wasn't the usual culprits (thyroid or anything). After talking about my overall health and goals she prescribed me phentermine. It's a three month boost to help you lose weight while you work with your doctor to learn how to properly diet and exercise. I'm being closely monitored by a medical professional and I honestly feel like I am making the best choice for my health. I know it's not a "magic pill", I am working very hard to be healthy overall and I am doing it with the professional help and support that I need.
Honestly, think about how your words affect people who are making well informed decisions about their health. The hate and negativity about something between a patient and their doctor is not necessary.1 -
My perspective: I've been seeing a metabolic specialist for 3 months. She prescribed me Qsymia along with a variety of other supplements to treat a variety of other issues. Under a doctors supervision, Qsymia is useful tool to help along with diet and exercise. When you have a legitimate metabolic issue, sometimes drugs are an option. There is certainly no quick fix. I'm averaging 1-2 lbs per week staying around 1200 calories and exercising 3-5 times per week. If you are expecting to take a pill and maintain bad habits, you will not lose....but if you are treating a legitimate slow metabolism or if you need something to help keep you on track and focused, be sure you do so under a proper doctors care. I went for a series of heart and blood tests prior to starting Qsymia to ensure my body could handle Phentermine.0
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jessicamfort wrote: »I'm always amazed at how taboo diet pills are. I gained a TON of weight in only nine months. I needed to figure out what was going on with my body, but I also needed to quickly get the weight off because it was not healthy. I talked to my doctor. We ran a gamut of tests and determined it wasn't the usual culprits (thyroid or anything). After talking about my overall health and goals she prescribed me phentermine. It's a three month boost to help you lose weight while you work with your doctor to learn how to properly diet and exercise. I'm being closely monitored by a medical professional and I honestly feel like I am making the best choice for my health. I know it's not a "magic pill", I am working very hard to be healthy overall and I am doing it with the professional help and support that I need.
Honestly, think about how your words affect people who are making well informed decisions about their health. The hate and negativity about something between a patient and their doctor is not necessary.
When people take an appetite suppressant, they frequently go back to eating the way they did before once they stop taking the pills. That's why so many people here caution against them; they've either seen, or experienced first-hand, the negatives that go with them. The negativity comes from real-world experience, not judgment.0 -
Wow, that's frightening and sad. I'm pitching mine. I haven't taken them in forever but that's just plain scary. Thanks for sharing.PennyVonDread wrote: »My uncle died due to a side effect of diet pills. Sudden heart failure at 32 years old. They're really not meant for people who are just "over weight" and even then, I feel like they're not necessary.
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I used Reductil Sibutramine (Meridia) 150mg from http://generic-meds-store.com some time ago. This pill has literally been a lifesaver for me...12 kilos lost in 2 months left me utterly amazed. It's a perfect appetite suppressant that works from the very first week of use by suppressing appetite and cravings. I don't think I have ever tried a drug that has helped me cope as well as this one has. At this moment in time, I would definitely recommend giving this drug a go!-1
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People on this thread are so rude.
I have pcos and Im borderline diabetic. I have tried dieting on my own and the same thing happens every time: normal diet+exercise doesnt work and I gain/stay the same weight or I have to go to extremes, ill loose about 0.5kg per fortnight then gain it back as soon as i eat a Normal human amount or dont go to the gym 7xpw (1600cals is a normal amount btw)
Saying that diet pills are weight loss surgery is a big hoax, that those people are lazy and "its all in our head" and were basically taking 'speed' is highly offensive. Im sorry my metabolism is fu*ked and so are my hormones. Way to go to make people who need weight loss surgery because they have an addiction to food feel like *kitten* for it and way to go to make people with medical issues feel like *kitten* for needing help too.
If your looking into diet pills go to your doctor and ask them for advice. Dont buy anything online and make sure you have tried proper dieting and exercise beforehand and maybe ask for an appointment with a dietician to help you while on or before u start taking the medication. And be sure to drink plenty of water aswell. Ive heard duromine 15mg is usually good with few side effects but it is slow to aid weightloss and metaformin can help if you have insulin issues. But these are prescription only.
A daily multivitamin is good for general wellbeing.
I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, I am either bedridden, housebound or am able to do a nearly normal amount of activity. The truth is that no matter our medical conditions, it doesn't negate calories in/calories out. The only difference, is that I have to adjust my calories everyday, that's my diet pill: DAILY CALORIC ADJUSTMENT & considering that surgery has an only 5% success rate, it isn't worth the risk; unless they're expected to die otherwise within a couple of years because it wouldn't give them enough time, to lose the weight.0 -
People on this thread are so rude.
I have pcos and Im borderline diabetic. I have tried dieting on my own and the same thing happens every time: normal diet+exercise doesnt work and I gain/stay the same weight or I have to go to extremes, ill loose about 0.5kg per fortnight then gain it back as soon as i eat a Normal human amount or dont go to the gym 7xpw (1600cals is a normal amount btw)
Saying that diet pills are weight loss surgery is a big hoax, that those people are lazy and "its all in our head" and were basically taking 'speed' is highly offensive. Im sorry my metabolism is fu*ked and so are my hormones. Way to go to make people who need weight loss surgery because they have an addiction to food feel like *kitten* for it and way to go to make people with medical issues feel like *kitten* for needing help too.
If your looking into diet pills go to your doctor and ask them for advice. Dont buy anything online and make sure you have tried proper dieting and exercise beforehand and maybe ask for an appointment with a dietician to help you while on or before u start taking the medication. And be sure to drink plenty of water aswell. Ive heard duromine 15mg is usually good with few side effects but it is slow to aid weightloss and metaformin can help if you have insulin issues. But these are prescription only.
A daily multivitamin is good for general wellbeing.
If that is the case then surgery isn't going to help. They will just put the weight on again because they haven't tackled the addiction, therefore in these cases you do have to change how it is in your head before you can succeed.
Noone is saying it is easy.0 -
I used Reductil Sibutramine (Meridia) 150mg from http://generic-meds-store.com some time ago. This pill has literally been a lifesaver for me...12 kilos lost in 2 months left me utterly amazed. It's a perfect appetite suppressant that works from the very first week of use by suppressing appetite and cravings. I don't think I have ever tried a drug that has helped me cope as well as this one has. At this moment in time, I would definitely recommend giving this drug a go!
So what happens after you stop taking it? You'll gain the weight back because your cravings & appetite will come back & you never learned how to cope with that, without medication and/or supplements.0 -
I am a former fitness competitor. I am a certified trainer. I went to school for nutrition. I was diagnosed with Lymphoma and started Chemotherapy in 2012. I started a large doses of steroids and radiation to kill my thyroid. I suffer from Lupus that causes chronic fatigue, painful swollen joints and bad adrenals. I gained over 50 lbs in 3 years from my sudden change of life style. No it wasn't by choice and no I didn't start eating a 4000 calorie diet. I was actually eating a lot less and just moving a lot less. I have been put on Phentermine by one of my Doctors. I have read a few negative responses from people claiming it's "all in your head" or "just another lazy person with excuses" or "hormones don't do that to you". Thankfully you guys seem to have all the wrong answers! So to anyone out there suffering with depression, hormones, cancer, chronic illness...Good luck to you! For the rest of you perfect people...count your blessings that your healthy.1
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sarahfrahane wrote: »So, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but after a scroll I couldn't see anything so...
What's the consensus with diet pills? Are some perscription ones worth getting? What is the science behind them? And with a calorie deficit and exercise, are they likely to contribute positively to weight loss?
No. do not use them. Eat less, move more and take and eat your vitamins. Diet pills artificially depress your hunger and can contribute to heart problems and other detrimental and preventable conditions. Save your money for fresh nonprocessed foods. Please.0 -
There's a difference of someone with a health condition NEEDING help with drugs and/or supplementation and the general population using "diet" pills to lose weight due to impatience or lack of discipline.I am a former fitness competitor. I am a certified trainer. I went to school for nutrition. I was diagnosed with Lymphoma and started Chemotherapy in 2012. I started a large doses of steroids and radiation to kill my thyroid. I suffer from Lupus that causes chronic fatigue, painful swollen joints and bad adrenals. I gained over 50 lbs in 3 years from my sudden change of life style. No it wasn't by choice and no I didn't start eating a 4000 calorie diet. I was actually eating a lot less and just moving a lot less. I have been put on Phentermine by one of my Doctors. I have read a few negative responses from people claiming it's "all in your head" or "just another lazy person with excuses" or "hormones don't do that to you". Thankfully you guys seem to have all the wrong answers! So to anyone out there suffering with depression, hormones, cancer, chronic illness...Good luck to you! For the rest of you perfect people...count your blessings that your healthy.
Would you endorse someone to use a "diet" supplement to lose because they can't seem to get their intake correct?
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If you read the labels on a lot of the over the counter diet pills they state they are a diuretic and to drinks lots of water while taking them. I don't see any weight loss benefit there.
A diuretic is any substance that promotes the production of urine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diuretic
If you need medication to lose weight then it should be under the supervision of a medical doctor.0 -
LittleDreamer78 wrote: »I started taking Phentermine this month, it's working and there's not many side effects, for me. But you get used to them and have to stop taking them for a few days every few weeks or so to get them to start working again. They are prescription only. I was also taking Topamax to help with craving sweet foods, but they made me too tired, so I stopped taking them after a few days. I'm not planning to take the medicine for a long period of time, just to get me going. It helps give me energy and makes me not as hungry as normal, but I still eat. And I'm eating healthier now too and only drinking water, no soft drinks.
I started phentermine last week. Its helping me tremendously0 -
I am losing weight to help me get off of a medication that I HAVE to take to regulate my blood pressure. Worrying about what the side effects can be doing to my body is awful. I have already had problems with my potassium levels and blood tests that showed elevated liver enzymes more than once. I just cannot imagine going on a medication with known horrible side effects when it is not needed for medical reasons.
When I was 226 lbs my Dr. tried to write me a prescription for a weight loss drug, I got a new Dr.0 -
They're basically legal speed. Sure, they'll help you lose weight, but what they don't do is help you develop the habits you'll need to keep it off once you lose it and quit taking them.0
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People on this thread are so rude.
I have pcos and Im borderline diabetic. I have tried dieting on my own and the same thing happens every time: normal diet+exercise doesnt work and I gain/stay the same weight or I have to go to extremes, ill loose about 0.5kg per fortnight then gain it back as soon as i eat a Normal human amount or dont go to the gym 7xpw (1600cals is a normal amount btw)
Saying that diet pills are weight loss surgery is a big hoax, that those people are lazy and "its all in our head" and were basically taking 'speed' is highly offensive. Im sorry my metabolism is fu*ked and so are my hormones. Way to go to make people who need weight loss surgery because they have an addiction to food feel like *kitten* for it and way to go to make people with medical issues feel like *kitten* for needing help too.
If your looking into diet pills go to your doctor and ask them for advice. Dont buy anything online and make sure you have tried proper dieting and exercise beforehand and maybe ask for an appointment with a dietician to help you while on or before u start taking the medication. And be sure to drink plenty of water aswell. Ive heard duromine 15mg is usually good with few side effects but it is slow to aid weightloss and metaformin can help if you have insulin issues. But these are prescription only.
A daily multivitamin is good for general wellbeing.
I concur!
Give exercise and dieting at a reasonable calorie budget a try, see a personal trainer or deitician to figure out good portions. Once you try the basics, and still nothing changes, then see a doctor or specialist about help. And I'm not saying try it for a couple weeks. I'm saying try it for for a few months. I suffer from PCOS, and was offered a drug to help with my insulin resistance. I told the doctor I wanted to rule out all of my human errors first, and saw the in house deitician and a personal trainer.
Turns out the "plateau" was was worrying over so much wasn't actually a plateau and all I needed to do was change a few eating habits I thought I was doing right. I still haven't needed to take a pill for weight loss, but you betcha butt I'm in the gym, out running, or doing something active just about every day.
I tried to find this flow-chart another poster had put up about not being able to lose weight that was really helpful, and doctor intervention was the absolute last bubble on the chart. Try ruling out your human mistakes first, it will save you some co-pays.0 -
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rkennedy1014 wrote: »My perspective: I've been seeing a metabolic specialist for 3 months. She prescribed me Qsymia along with a variety of other supplements to treat a variety of other issues. Under a doctors supervision, Qsymia is useful tool to help along with diet and exercise. When you have a legitimate metabolic issue, sometimes drugs are an option. There is certainly no quick fix. I'm averaging 1-2 lbs per week staying around 1200 calories and exercising 3-5 times per week. If you are expecting to take a pill and maintain bad habits, you will not lose....but if you are treating a legitimate slow metabolism or if you need something to help keep you on track and focused, be sure you do so under a proper doctors care. I went for a series of heart and blood tests prior to starting Qsymia to ensure my body could handle Phentermine.
So what would happen if you set your goal at 1200 and exercised 3-5 times a week but didn't take the pill? Why do you think that it's the pill helping you achieve that 1-2 lb/week loss and not just the calorie deficit that you are following, and being successful with?
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Sleeper1968 wrote: »For the people saying diet pills are effective: Why then are you still overweight?
There are no short cuts.
I think -you're- the one thinking they are magic pills. For people who struggle with maintaining a lower calorie diet, it's a nice little help in order to get used to smaller portions and to really start listening to your body. I still get hungry. I still have cravings. They just aren't as strong and so I'm able to determine whether I'm really hungry or if there's an emotional trigger making me want to eat.
I binge less, I stick with my goals more. These things are important to establish and using a prescribed medication to help hone these habits is not bad.1 -
Pocket__Cthulhu wrote: »
I spoke too soon! I stole this from tiffanylacourse. It helped me a lot.
Just to clarify, this flowchart was originally created by @lemonlionheart. She's said in other threads that she doesn't mind if we use it without attribution, but I'd hate to see the credit go to the wrong user.0 -
I've used diet pills and they are not magic pills but they help soooooo much! You just have to help them help you
By eatting rite and exercise I went from 200lbs to 115 my last weight loss journey and I used diet pills the entire time I'm now at it again after having my baby and I have not used pills this time YET but am considering again (just to help speed things up) -1
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