Paleo diet: honest debate
robs_ready
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I've been reading a lot about the paleo diet recently, for a number of reasons, I wish to eliminate certain food types from my diet.
From what I've read, paleo diet restricts grains and only meat can be consumed if it's fed it's natural diet.
The diet advocates lots of fruit and vegetables, limited dairy (preferable none but that's not going to happen), nuts etc...
Some concerns are raised about lacking particular minerals, and that it's a restrictive diet.
I'd be happy to hear any comments on the diet, as I plan to begin shortly.
From what I've read, paleo diet restricts grains and only meat can be consumed if it's fed it's natural diet.
The diet advocates lots of fruit and vegetables, limited dairy (preferable none but that's not going to happen), nuts etc...
Some concerns are raised about lacking particular minerals, and that it's a restrictive diet.
I'd be happy to hear any comments on the diet, as I plan to begin shortly.
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What appeals to you about this plan?0
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What are your objectives?
Do you think you can sustain it?
Why do you prefer it to other Ways of Eating?0 -
I don't like diets that restrict for basically no reason. This is one of those diets.0
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Thanks for the responses guys, it's quite complicated actually.
Im doing it for a number of reasons If I'm being honest;
1.Optimal physical health, clean eating.
2.To have better skin
3.To feel less tired associated with insulin spikes or food group intolerance.
4.To aid with left over symptoms of adhd as a child, inattentiveness and sleep problems.
5.To curb appetite
May all sound a bit too much, but I want to go wirh a diet which advocates better eating and doesn't cut out meat (I can't live without meat)
It's not that I'm anti grain, I'm just trying to determine whether it agrees with me or not.
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I don't know. I wouldn't do it personally. Too many dumb rules. My life is hard enough without having to figure out what the cow I'm eating was eating.
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Cool, any paleo dieters out there with any success on the diet?0
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robs_ready wrote: »Thanks for the responses guys, it's quite complicated actually.
Im doing it for a number of reasons If I'm being honest;
1.Optimal physical health, clean eating.
2.To have better skin
3.To feel less tired associated with insulin spikes or food group intolerance.
4.To aid with left over symptoms of adhd as a child, inattentiveness and sleep problems.
5.To curb appetite
May all sound a bit too much, but I want to go wirh a diet which advocates better eating and doesn't cut out meat (I can't live without meat)
It's not that I'm anti grain, I'm just trying to determine whether it agrees with me or not.
Do you think cutting out pasta or the occasional apple pie will give you all of that?
You could just eat a better overall diet. High in greens and fresh produce, with meat and dairy as you like.
It's called "eating better" it works well and doesn't require strict elimination, for example, of legumes, coffee or alcohol.
But certainly give it a try. Keep in mind the question - "Is this sustainable?"
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'Clean eating' (whatever on earth that is) or a paleo™ diet is not required for optimal physical health.robs_ready wrote: »1.Optimal physical health, clean eating.
A paleo™ diet is not required for you to have better skin.robs_ready wrote: »2.To have better skin
A paleo™ diet is not required to feel less tired due to insulin spikes (OH NOES INSULIN SPIKEZ) or food group intolerances.robs_ready wrote: »3.To feel less tired associated with insulin spikes or food group intolerance.
A paleo™ diet is not required to aid ADHD symptoms and sleep problems.robs_ready wrote: »4.To aid with left over symptoms of adhd as a child, inattentiveness and sleep problems.
A paleo™ diet is not required to curb appetiterobs_ready wrote: »5.To curb appetite
A paleo™ diet is not required for 'better' eating.robs_ready wrote: »May all sound a bit too much, but I want to go wirh a diet which advocates better eating and doesn't cut out meat (I can't live without meat)
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robs_ready wrote: »Thanks for the responses guys, it's quite complicated actually.
Im doing it for a number of reasons If I'm being honest;
1.Optimal physical health, clean eating.
2.To have better skin
3.To feel less tired associated with insulin spikes or food group intolerance.
4.To aid with left over symptoms of adhd as a child, inattentiveness and sleep problems.
5.To curb appetite
May all sound a bit too much, but I want to go wirh a diet which advocates better eating and doesn't cut out meat (I can't live without meat)
It's not that I'm anti grain, I'm just trying to determine whether it agrees with me or not.
Even assuming the diet accurately describes paleo man, do you believe they had less of the five issues you listed? There is evidence that ADHD might have been more common in Paleolithic man, if anything. Having a natural tendency not to sleep soundly, to be constantly moving and looking, to react very quickly to changes in the enviroment - do those sound like traits evolution would be removing from humans during an era of commonly struggling between being the predator and being the prey?0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »robs_ready wrote: »Thanks for the responses guys, it's quite complicated actually.
Im doing it for a number of reasons If I'm being honest;
1.Optimal physical health, clean eating.
2.To have better skin
3.To feel less tired associated with insulin spikes or food group intolerance.
4.To aid with left over symptoms of adhd as a child, inattentiveness and sleep problems.
5.To curb appetite
May all sound a bit too much, but I want to go wirh a diet which advocates better eating and doesn't cut out meat (I can't live without meat)
It's not that I'm anti grain, I'm just trying to determine whether it agrees with me or not.
Do you think cutting out pasta or the occasional apple pie will give you all of that?
You could just eat a better overall diet. High in greens and fresh produce, with meat and dairy as you like.
It's called "eating better" it works well and doesn't require strict elimination, for example, of legumes, coffee or alcohol.
Not a coffee drinker anymore but tea is always nice (I'm British) don't really eat legumes and alcohol turns me into an *kitten*. So I guess it's not that bad after all?
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As for the actual evidence it mimics ancestoral human diets... They advocate eating meat which hunting and scavenging is only appeared in the last two million years, and became common maybe 500K to 1 million years ago, yet say we haven't had time to adapt to eating grains, even though evidence of sedges are found in ancestoral bone fragments dating to 4 million years ago.0
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robs_ready wrote: »I've been reading a lot about the paleo diet recently, for a number of reasons, I wish to eliminate certain food types from my diet.
From what I've read, paleo diet restricts grains and only meat can be consumed if it's fed it's natural diet.
The diet advocates lots of fruit and vegetables, limited dairy (preferable none but that's not going to happen), nuts etc...
Some concerns are raised about lacking particular minerals, and that it's a restrictive diet.
I'd be happy to hear any comments on the diet, as I plan to begin shortly.
I did a 3ish month experiment with it, back in the day. For me personally it was a disaster. I ended up having some nasty digestive issues, bad breath, lethargy etc. And my grocery bill was INSANE. I didn't notice any positive differences either-no real weight loss etc. I'm glad I tried it, just for the personal data, but I'd never try it again.0 -
'Clean eating' (whatever on earth that is) or a paleo™ diet is not required for optimal physical health.robs_ready wrote: »1.Optimal physical health, clean eating.
A paleo™ diet is not required for you to have better skin.robs_ready wrote: »2.To have better skin
A paleo™ diet is not required to feel less tired due to insulin spikes (OH NOES INSULIN SPIKEZ) or food group intolerances.robs_ready wrote: »3.To feel less tired associated with insulin spikes or food group intolerance.
A paleo™ diet is not required to aid ADHD symptoms and sleep problems.robs_ready wrote: »4.To aid with left over symptoms of adhd as a child, inattentiveness and sleep problems.
A paleo™ diet is not required to curb appetiterobs_ready wrote: »5.To curb appetite
A paleo™ diet is not required for 'better' eating.robs_ready wrote: »May all sound a bit too much, but I want to go wirh a diet which advocates better eating and doesn't cut out meat (I can't live without meat)
Who said it was?1 -
In for an honest discussion about pseudoscience0
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I tried it. It was a pain to be restrictive with no real results to justify the extra work or meal planning. By all means go ahead and try it for yourself. If you like it go with it it, if not try something new. I just look to hit my macros now. No special restrictions.0
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robs_ready wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »robs_ready wrote: »Thanks for the responses guys, it's quite complicated actually.
Im doing it for a number of reasons If I'm being honest;
1.Optimal physical health, clean eating.
2.To have better skin
3.To feel less tired associated with insulin spikes or food group intolerance.
4.To aid with left over symptoms of adhd as a child, inattentiveness and sleep problems.
5.To curb appetite
May all sound a bit too much, but I want to go wirh a diet which advocates better eating and doesn't cut out meat (I can't live without meat)
It's not that I'm anti grain, I'm just trying to determine whether it agrees with me or not.
Do you think cutting out pasta or the occasional apple pie will give you all of that?
You could just eat a better overall diet. High in greens and fresh produce, with meat and dairy as you like.
It's called "eating better" it works well and doesn't require strict elimination, for example, of legumes, coffee or alcohol.
Not a coffee drinker anymore but tea is always nice (I'm British) don't really eat legumes and alcohol turns me into an *kitten*. So I guess it's not that bad after all?
Paleo British Tea?0 -
I hated it and I was miserable.0
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