Can I count my Diet Coke that I drank as one of the glasses of water

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    perkymommy wrote: »
    I wouldn't. Water consumption is needed during weight loss and the water tracking is for water only. Soda of any kind is not nutritional at all.
    Water is ESSENTIAL for life whether one is trying to lose weight or not. State the nutrients in water. Diet soda is more water than anything else.

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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Diet coke has no calories but it does have sodium. I would put it in as a regular food in case I need to look at my sodium intake more carefully (you would be surprised by what you find when you run reports on nutrition, especially when your weight gets "stuck.") That being said, a drink with sodium isn't exactly water, even if it contain a lot; it also contains a lot of bad stuff not tracked here, like phosphorus and artificial sweetener. Diet soda is "junk food" and you should be drinking water to help flush your body of the icky chemicals.

    Regular old water contains sodium and about half a dozen other micronutrients..
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    saylorkw wrote: »
    Beverages such as diet soda are composed primarily of water, they do count towards your daily water requirement. However, you must take into consideration diet soda additives such as sodium and caffeine may actually remove water from your body. Because of this, it's crucial that you avoid relying solely on diet soda to meet your daily recommended water intake.

    Sodium is not added to soda.
    Sodium is naturally in water.
  • songbird13291
    songbird13291 Posts: 120 Member
    The word from the nutritionists at Weight Watchers was to allow coffee, tea, diet soda etc. to count towards water consumption. There are reasons to avoid diet soda, but yes, you can count it.
  • another_chelle
    another_chelle Posts: 42 Member
    I would track the soda because it is something you are consuming during your weight loss journey. I would track it as soda and not water because I would want to know exactly what I consumed that day. You could have weeks where you are consuming diet soda every day and then the next week you only drink water. If you log correctly you can look back and find a pattern of this week I was bloated and this week I felt fine. I'm not saying the consuming of soda beverages will effect how you feel one way or the other; if your gonna track then why not track accurately?
  • booksandchocolate12
    booksandchocolate12 Posts: 1,741 Member
    perkymommy wrote: »
    Mentali wrote: »
    perkymommy wrote: »
    I wouldn't. Water consumption is needed during weight loss and the water tracking is for water only. Soda of any kind is not nutritional at all.

    This confuses me a little bit - water is nutritional because it is water. Diet Coke is 99% water. You are consuming water when you consume soda.

    Soda isn't the same as water. I do weight watchers and track water there. Water is water.

    Directly from the WW website: "Now all liquids can count toward your daily intake. But while it's not required that your 48 ounces must be water, water is still the best choice."

    http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=42781
  • Michaelxo444
    Michaelxo444 Posts: 225 Member
    No it's filled with chemicals lol
  • ladytsprts
    ladytsprts Posts: 2 Member
    I don't count soda, coffee, tea, juices or any other type of drinks as my water intake since I was told years ago it is best not too! I include them on my daily intake sections based on when or if I drink something other than water. I put them in my meal or snack section but keep water separate. I drink 6-8 glasses of water daily and rarely drink sweetened drinks since I had a bladder infection over 30 yrs ago. It was painful and basically shut my digestive system down. I went to the doctor for treatment, mainly drank kool-aid or tea growing up, and he told me I had to cut back. The doctor advised me to drink 6-8 glasses of water, less sweet drinks, to avoid another episode! I have been drinking water ever since! I keep water separate from those other drinks. I agree with a few other posts above about the diuretic and chemical imbalance that those drinks cause since they run right thru your system and flush your system of vital minerals and nutrients! I can tell from the sound of the original post, you are not drinking soda all the time. I do treat myself every once and while, when I am feeling a crave for something different. I would definitely log the other drink in the daily intake section to get the true calorie count. I prefer to keep my water separate so I know for sure what my true daily water intake is! I feel how each person log is their preference as long as you are drinking water too! Good luck SweetNina81! I need to lose about 100 too, and share your sentiment! I keep losing and putting some back on so I should have had this off years ago!
  • booksandchocolate12
    booksandchocolate12 Posts: 1,741 Member
    No it's filled with chemicals lol

    True. It's mostly dihydrogen monoxide. Literally everyone who consumes that will die.
  • DrusiliaDD
    DrusiliaDD Posts: 71 Member
    I never log my water consumption. I tend to drink water from either pint glasses or 500ml bottles and don't see the point in translating that to cups to meet some arbitrary goal.

    I still log diet sodas in my diary since some of them aren't as low calorie as they seem. For example, a 330ml diet coke is a single calorie which doesn't really matter, a 500ml irn bru sugar free is 4 calories which also isn't a big deal but 7up free or similar is around 15 calories for a 500ml bottle which I'd argue is significant to log. I also still log the really low ones just to build a good logging habit.
  • cityruss
    cityruss Posts: 2,493 Member
    The government level regulatory bodies who set 'the rules' state that fluid comes from the drinks and the food we consume. This is also backed up by actual reality.

    You can theoretically meet your hydration needs by eating watermelon and celery.

    Tap water, bottled water, coffee, tea, fruit juice, broth, vegetable juice, mud, sports drinks, milk, watermelon (90 percent or more water by weight), wine, beer all increase your daily fluid intake.

    The whole "drink xx glasses of water or else" and "this counts this doesn't" is just nonsense, no matter what your latest Diet™ says.
    The Food and Nutrition Board released the sixth in a series of reports presenting dietary reference values for the intake of nutrients by Americans and Canadians. This new report establishes nutrient recommendations on water, salt and potassium to maintain health and reduce chronic disease risk. Highlights of the report include:

    ◾The vast majority of healthy people adequately meet their daily hydration needs by letting thirst be their guide. The report did not specify exact requirements for water, but set general recommendations for women at approximately 2.7 liters (91 ounces) of total water -- from all beverages and foods -- each day, and men an average of approximately 3.7 liters (125 ounces daily) of total water. The panel did not set an upper level for water.

    ◾About 80 percent of people's total water intake comes from drinking water and beverages -- including caffeinated beverages -- and the other 20 percent is derived from food.

    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10925

    http://iom.edu/Reports/2004/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-Water-Potassium-Sodium-Chloride-and-Sulfate.aspx

    http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/283/5/R993
    When we speak of water we are essentially focusing first and foremost on all types of water, be they soft or hard, spring or well, carbonated or distilled water. Furthermore we get water not only directly as a beverage but from food and to a very small extent also from oxidation of macronutrients (metabolic water). The proportion of water that comes from beverages and food varies with the proportion of fruits and vegetables in the diet. We present the ranges of water in various foods (Table 1). In the United States it is estimated that about 22% of water comes from our food intake while it would be much higher in European countries, particularly a country like Greece with its higher intake of fruits and vegetables or South Korea
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2908954/
    Fluids come from the beverages you drink and the foods that you eat

    Coffees and teas are not dehydrating. Limit caffeine intake to about 400 mg per day. That is equal to 750 mL (3 cups) of black coffee or 1 L (4 cups) of black tea per day.

    Drink herbal teas or decaf coffee if you want to have more than the recommended amount of caffeinated beverages.
    http://www.dietitians.ca/Your-Health/Nutrition-A-Z/Water/Why-is-water-so-important-for-my-body-Know-when.aspx
    Fact or fiction: Beverages that contain caffeine will contribute to your daily fluid needs? FACT! Research has shown that beverages containing caffeine, such as soft drinks, tea, and coffee can contribute to meeting your daily fluid needs as much as non-caffeinated beverages, such as water, milk, and juice do. Some of these beverages may contain calories, which should be accounted for in your diet.
    http://www.ecu.edu/cs-dhs/fammed/customcf/resources/nutrition/hydration.pdf
    Water comes from more than just fluids, it is a major component of many foods. In fact, it is estimated that 20% of our water needs are met through food, not fluids. Meal consumption is critical to ensure full hydration on a day to day basis. Eating food promotes fluid intake and retention.
    http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/fluids
    Water comes from a variety of sources. All beverages or fluids are a source of water. Even solid foods contain water. Lettuce, celery, and other crisp vegetables are composed of 90 percent or more water. Protein-rich foods such as meat, fish, or chicken may contain as much as one-half to two-thirds their weight in water. Even grain products, which don’t seem watery at all, may be up to one-third water.

    Fats, such as butter or margarine, and sugar are among the foods that contain the least water.

    Some water, perhaps one to two cups per day, comes from inside our bodies as a byproduct of energy metabolism. This amount is small but significant.

    It is important to be aware of fluid intake. Even though solid food is a source of water, additional water from drinking fluids is needed. Besides plain water, juices, milk, or other beverages boost fluid intake.
    http://www.ianrpubs.unl.edu/epublic/pages/publicationD.jsp?publicationId=296
  • prdavies1949
    prdavies1949 Posts: 326 Member
    Well I'm gonna log my Diet Coke in with the food and as water in the overflowing cup then I get the benefit twice.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    perkymommy wrote: »
    I wouldn't. Water consumption is needed during weight loss and the water tracking is for water only. Soda of any kind is not nutritional at all.

    Neither is water. :)
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    No it's filled with chemicals lol

    So is water.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    MzManiak wrote: »
    Lol Some of you crack me up... you realize bottled water also has some sodium in it, right?

    As does tap (municipal) water. And well water.
  • perkymommy
    perkymommy Posts: 1,642 Member
    edited April 2016
    Soda is not water. It is bad for you. Bad for your bones, teeth and has absolutely no nutritional value. I count diet sodas in my food diary. Most have sodium and that needs to be tracked.
  • MommyL2015
    MommyL2015 Posts: 1,411 Member
    perkymommy wrote: »
    Soda is not water. It is bad for you. Bad for your bones, teeth and has absolutely no nutritional value. I count diet sodas in my food diary. Most have sodium and that needs to be tracked.

    How exactly is it bad? If there is a claim that it is bad, specially the diet kind (which I drink), I need to know the facts. Do you have facts?
  • perkymommy
    perkymommy Posts: 1,642 Member
    MommyL2015 wrote: »
    perkymommy wrote: »
    Soda is not water. It is bad for you. Bad for your bones, teeth and has absolutely no nutritional value. I count diet sodas in my food diary. Most have sodium and that needs to be tracked.

    How exactly is it bad? If there is a claim that it is bad, specially the diet kind (which I drink), I need to know the facts. Do you have facts?

    I'm not even going there. :D Anyone knows that soda isn't water though. That was the question.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    perkymommy wrote: »
    MommyL2015 wrote: »
    perkymommy wrote: »
    Soda is not water. It is bad for you. Bad for your bones, teeth and has absolutely no nutritional value. I count diet sodas in my food diary. Most have sodium and that needs to be tracked.

    How exactly is it bad? If there is a claim that it is bad, specially the diet kind (which I drink), I need to know the facts. Do you have facts?

    I'm not even going there. :D Anyone knows that soda isn't water though. That was the question.

    The #1 ingredient in soda is carbonated water. So yes, soda is just flavoured water. :)
  • MommyL2015
    MommyL2015 Posts: 1,411 Member
    perkymommy wrote: »
    MommyL2015 wrote: »
    perkymommy wrote: »
    Soda is not water. It is bad for you. Bad for your bones, teeth and has absolutely no nutritional value. I count diet sodas in my food diary. Most have sodium and that needs to be tracked.

    How exactly is it bad? If there is a claim that it is bad, specially the diet kind (which I drink), I need to know the facts. Do you have facts?

    I'm not even going there. :D Anyone knows that soda isn't water though. That was the question.

    Well, you went there, so I was just trying to follow up. But it's mostly water, so I count it towards fluid that I drink but I don't tick it off of my water. I don't track water at all, though.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    perkymommy wrote: »
    Soda is not water. It is bad for you. Bad for your bones, teeth and has absolutely no nutritional value. I count diet sodas in my food diary. Most have sodium and that needs to be tracked.

    WATER HAS SODIUM IN IT BY ITSELF.
  • ncboiler89
    ncboiler89 Posts: 2,408 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    Icky chemicals? Like the ones in high quality mineral water perhaps?
    Calcium, Sulfates, Magnesium, Potassium, Bicarbonates, Silica, Chlorides.

    Plus oxygen and hydrogen of course, hydrogen is really dangerous!

    lol.....solid
  • Kullerva
    Kullerva Posts: 1,114 Member
    People like to make things to complicated. The water tracking feature is to make sure you stay adequately hydrated. Diet coke hydrates you just as water does. Go ahead and track it.

    Not quite. Soda (diet or otherwise) doesn't hydrate quite as well as water (because of caffeine and sodium's impact on fluid retention), but it does, indeed, hydrate. Source: http://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/healthy-beverages
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edited April 2016
    Chemicals found in plain bottled spring water with carbonation:

    Bicarbonate 276 mg/l
    Sulfate 170 mg/l
    Calcium 84.2 mg/l
    Magnesium 45.3 mg/l
    Chloride 33 mg/l
    SODIUM 21.9 mg/l