HCLF vegan tips

hannahdearest16
hannahdearest16 Posts: 4 Member
edited December 1 in Food and Nutrition
I've just recently gone vegan and I'm trying to stick to the HCLF lifestyle. Does anyone have any tips about how to maintain this diet and hiw to know what foods (that are HCLF) to eat?

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  • fileshiny
    fileshiny Posts: 149 Member
    High calorie low fat? Are you sure that's where you want to go?
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    High carb I'm sure.
  • fileshiny
    fileshiny Posts: 149 Member
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    fileshiny wrote: »
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though

    HCLF vegans generally eat 80c/10p/10f
  • fileshiny
    fileshiny Posts: 149 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    fileshiny wrote: »
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though

    HCLF vegans generally eat 80c/10p/10f

    Oh. Why?
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  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    fileshiny wrote: »
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though

    um no
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    now i'm hungry :cry:
  • fileshiny
    fileshiny Posts: 149 Member
    fileshiny wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    fileshiny wrote: »
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though

    HCLF vegans generally eat 80c/10p/10f

    Oh. Why?

    Seriously, why do this diet? What are the hoped for results?
  • mamafazz
    mamafazz Posts: 92 Member
    Fruit, potatoes,veggies,rice,sweet potato...lots of fruit and veg
  • fileshiny
    fileshiny Posts: 149 Member
    fileshiny wrote: »
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though

    um no
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    Yeah but only the nuts and avocados in your post are actual food. The rest are processed chemicals.
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  • yeseniaw
    yeseniaw Posts: 3 Member
    good question, I became a eating about Vegan since New years and I'm trying to figure out m Macros on my fitness Pal, feel free follow me. in only 9 weeks I lost 17.7 lbs of body fat!!!
  • yeseniaw
    yeseniaw Posts: 3 Member
    In only 9 weeks of eating about %80 Vegan and Working out really hard, I went from 32% body fat to 24%, I lost 17 lbs of fat and gain 8 lbs of muscle and much more!
    ‪#‎eatingmatters
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  • yeseniaw
    yeseniaw Posts: 3 Member
    ad yes try to staay from anything process, even if I says Vegan.
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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    fileshiny wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    fileshiny wrote: »
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though

    HCLF vegans generally eat 80c/10p/10f

    Oh. Why?

    They believe it is healthier.
  • MelaniaTrump
    MelaniaTrump Posts: 2,694 Member
    60%, 20%, 20%. On most days.
    HCLF - everyone is different.
  • ConnorMacFarlane21
    ConnorMacFarlane21 Posts: 13 Member
    Hello! I am (very strictly speaking) a vegetarian, although my diet consists 95% of vegan foods. I aim to consume between 1800-1900 calories per day at a ratio of 40% Carb/30% Fat/30% Protein. This is an optimal nutrient ratio for me as I am trying to grow muscle while staying lean. I'd imagine you want a slightly different ratio for a HCLF diet --80C/10F/10P; 75C/15F/15P.

    I am pretty new to myfitnesspal, so my 'food diary' is relatively sparse. Regardless, I'll direct you to a couple days where I had higher Carb:Fat days. This will show you how you can eat somewhat HCLF meals. Unfortunately, I under-ate on some of these days, so my calorie counts are low, but the HCLF principle is still there. Bananas, oatmeal, quinoa, salad mixes, broccoli, sauteed pepper/onion mixes, yogourt, green beans, peas, bean sprouts, rice cakes, and Green Giant "Japanese Mix" bags make up most of my HCLF foods. A relatively HCLF meal I regularly make is a giant sauteed mix of broccoli, pepper, onion, green beans, peas, bean sprout, cucumber, edamame and carrot. Subtract the edamame (it has lots of healthy fat) and you have a super healthy HCLF meal.

    Check out my food diary for more in-depth details. Here, you can see the actual carb and fat counts per food-item and per meal. In particular, check the days of Mar 27, Mar 31, April 1, April 2, April 7.

    Sorry to ramble! Hope this helps :)
  • hannahdearest16
    hannahdearest16 Posts: 4 Member
    fileshiny wrote: »
    fileshiny wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    fileshiny wrote: »
    Almost all vegan food us high carb low fat though

    HCLF vegans generally eat 80c/10p/10f

    Oh. Why?

    Seriously, why do this diet? What are the hoped for results?

    I was already establishing a healthier lifestyle by going vegan but I hope to actually lose weight through high carb low fat. Also, this diet really helps me restrict vegan junk food, peanut butter, and oils.
  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    oils are good for you... olive oil? amazing good for your heart and body and tastebuds avocados AMAZING and good for your heart and body and life and tastebuds nuts amazin and good for your heart and body and life snd tastebuds.. if u wana be hclf thats your choice its your body but it isnt gonn magically make u lose weight.
  • kathrynjean_
    kathrynjean_ Posts: 428 Member
    edited April 2016
    I have been vegan for many years and I'm genuinely curious as to why you've decided to go HCLF. I really believe to each their own and people have got to eat what works well for them, but have you tried eating this way for an extended period of time?

    For many people, eating entirely plant based is a big transition on its own and it can be a challenge to incorporate adequate protein. I feel crummy when I don't eat enough fat and protein keeps me fuller longer.

    Trust me when I say that you'll have NO problems finding lots of carbs to eat on a plant based diet. Maybe try eating only vegan for a while and figure out how it works best for you before deciding on something that (to me) seems a bit arbitrary like HCLF? I really think that, especially with self-imposed dietary restrictions, it can be a process to figuring out what exactly that looks like for you and how it works.
  • fileshiny
    fileshiny Posts: 149 Member
    I've been a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 30 years and this diet goes against absolutely everything I've ever heard about trying to maintain a healthy diet. I'm on an extreme diet myself (keto - which for a vegetarian is truly extreme!) so I'm not judging. I'm genuinely curious as to why this is considered to be a healthy way of eating; is there any science to back this up?
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Most people need 30% fat.
  • Hipp706
    Hipp706 Posts: 28 Member
    I think if you eat relatively cleanly as a vegan then you will be high carb low fat without trying too hard. I have been reading 'Shred It' by Robert Cheeke (def worth a read) and he cuts fat and builds/maintains muscle using the 70,15,15 ratio. It's likely more achievable in day to day life. Ol you definitely do feel better eating clean and loads of fruits/veggies and reducing processed foods. I think it depends what you want to achieve. You can be slim and only eat processed foods - a calorie is a calorie - however, if you want to eat for health then eating a clean vegan diet will give you all the energy and nutrients you need - and you will lose weight :-)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    yeseniaw wrote: »
    In only 9 weeks of eating about %80 Vegan and Working out really hard, I went from 32% body fat to 24%, I lost 17 lbs of fat and gain 8 lbs of muscle and much more!
    ‪#‎eatingmatters
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    How are you measuring body fat? Women have limitations of muscle growth due to testosterone levels and even in a surplus, a progressive overload lifting routine and adequate protein, are limited to 1/4 of a lb per week.


    Op, I would probably recommend joining one of the vegan groups: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/45-happy-herbivores


    But you will probably want to eat foods such as: nuts, quinoa/oats/whole grains, veggies, fruits, temp eh, seitan, etc..
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited April 2016
    fileshiny wrote: »
    I've been a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 30 years and this diet goes against absolutely everything I've ever heard about trying to maintain a healthy diet. I'm on an extreme diet myself (keto - which for a vegetarian is truly extreme!) so I'm not judging. I'm genuinely curious as to why this is considered to be a healthy way of eating; is there any science to back this up?

    There is, it's certainly debatable and I'm not convinced by it (although I'm no more convinced by anti carb arguments). It's the general Fuhrman, McDougall, Ornish, Campbell, and Esselstyn stuff. Combining veganism with being anti oil and skeptical about protein.

    This is interesting, however: http://rawfoodsos.com/2015/10/06/in-defense-of-low-fat-a-call-for-some-evolution-of-thought-part-1/
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