A VERY good read ... take your time, grab a coffee and some biscuits ... and READ

Shropshire1959
Shropshire1959 Posts: 982 Member
edited December 1 in Food and Nutrition
"In 1972, a British scientist sounded the alarm that sugar – and not fat – was the greatest danger to our health. But his findings were ridiculed and his reputation ruined. How did the world’s top nutrition scientists get it so wrong for so long?........"

READ ME

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  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,301 Member
    The idea that excess sugar/carbohydrate is converted into fat is one step too far for many. I remember that debate and like now it was insidious.
  • Vetticus_3
    Vetticus_3 Posts: 78 Member
    edited April 2016
    Here's a good review (I've bolded the pieces I like):

    The Evidence for Saturated Fat and for Sugar Related to Coronary Heart Disease.
    DiNicolantonio JJ, Lucan SC, O'Keefe JH.


    Abstract
    Dietary guidelines continue to recommend restricting intake of saturated fats. This recommendation follows largely from the observation that saturated fats can raise levels of total serum cholesterol (TC), thereby putatively increasing the risk of atherosclerotic coronary heart disease (CHD). However, TC is only modestly associated with CHD, and more important than the total level of cholesterol in the blood may be the number and size of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) particles that contain it. As for saturated fats, these fats are a diverse class of compounds; different fats may have different effects on LDL and on broader CHD risk based on the specific saturated fatty acids (SFAs) they contain. Importantly, though, people eat foods, not isolated fatty acids. Some food sources of SFAs may pose no risk for CHD or possibly even be protective. Advice to reduce saturated fat in the diet without regard to nuances about LDL, SFAs, or dietary sources could actually increase people's risk of CHD. When saturated fats are replaced with refined carbohydrates, and specifically with added sugars (like sucrose or high fructose corn syrup), the end result is not favorable for heart health. Such replacement leads to changes in LDL, high-density lipoprotein (HDL), and triglycerides that may increase the risk of CHD. Additionally, diets high in sugar may induce many other abnormalities associated with elevated CHD risk, including elevated levels of glucose, insulin, and uric acid, impaired glucose tolerance, insulin and leptin resistance, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, and altered platelet function. A diet high in added sugars has been found to cause a 3-fold increased risk of death due to cardiovascular disease, but sugars, like saturated fats, are a diverse class of compounds. The monosaccharide, fructose, and fructose-containing sweeteners (e.g., sucrose) produce greater degrees of metabolic abnormalities than does glucose (either isolated as a monomer, or in chains as starch) and may present greater risk of CHD. This paper reviews the evidence linking saturated fats and sugars to CHD, and concludes that the latter is more of a problem than the former. Dietary guidelines should shift focus away from reducing saturated fat, and from replacing saturated fat with carbohydrates, specifically when these carbohydrates are refined. To reduce the burden of CHD, guidelines should focus particularly on reducing intake of concentrated sugars, specifically the fructose-containing sugars like sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup in the form of ultra-processed foods and beverages.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033062015300256
  • LazSommer
    LazSommer Posts: 1,851 Member
    But biscuits have carbs and I put sugar in my coffee?
  • Shropshire1959
    Shropshire1959 Posts: 982 Member
    LazSommer wrote: »
    But biscuits have carbs and I put sugar in my coffee?

    :-)
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    LazSommer wrote: »
    But biscuits have carbs and I put sugar in my coffee?

    :-)

    Touche.
  • richln
    richln Posts: 809 Member
    I once read a blog that concluded that obesity had something to do with energy balance.
  • Shropshire1959
    Shropshire1959 Posts: 982 Member
    Hi peeps ..... Question everything .. even your own dogma of choice.

    The ONLY person who truly cares about you and your health is YOU.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Clearly science hasn't progressed in 44 years and we should trust a study from 44 years ago.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Hi peeps ..... Question everything .. even your own dogma of choice.

    The ONLY person who truly cares about you and your health is YOU.

    Most of all you should question people who are frequently called out for lying and not understanding what the hell they're talking about who are using decades old research, being reported by a website that uses clipart that looks like it's also from decades ago for illustration.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    The Guardian hasn't been quite the same since Alan Rusbridger left...

    That's essentially one, long Opinion piece. It is rather interesting though and I think it is important to keep one eye on emerging scientific opinions without going too far the other way and accepting it wholesale because...the Illuminati or what not.
  • LazSommer
    LazSommer Posts: 1,851 Member
    msf74 wrote: »
    The Guardian hasn't been quite the same since Alan Rusbridger left...

    That's essentially one, long Opinion piece. It is rather interesting though and I think it is important to keep one eye on emerging scientific opinions without going too far the other way and accepting it wholesale because...the Illuminati or what not.

    You mean reptilians.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    LazSommer wrote: »
    msf74 wrote: »
    The Guardian hasn't been quite the same since Alan Rusbridger left...

    That's essentially one, long Opinion piece. It is rather interesting though and I think it is important to keep one eye on emerging scientific opinions without going too far the other way and accepting it wholesale because...the Illuminati or what not.

    You mean reptilians.

    I have it on good authority that the lizard people run the Federal Reserve.
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