My family gives me no support

lillyy23
lillyy23 Posts: 136 Member
edited December 1 in Health and Weight Loss
I just wanna cry right now. I ate prettty well all day and same *kitten* happens every time. I just started my diet today. And like its always the same damn thing. My mother or dad both either both take sides and tell me not to eat this or that. This time it was my mom i went down to eat i was having a major binging moment i know i slipped but it was the FIRST *kitten* day and she's talking *kitten* like saying im always making excuses and that its always my first day. Im allowed to *kitten* have slip ups. So as long as im dieting i cant ever have another cheat as long as i live??? Is that even human. So i wont be able to ever have pizza or burgers and *kitten* if i wanna be skinny. She puts me down all the time to the point where i don't even wanna try cause every time i tell them im dieting or even if i dont tell them they guess cause when im drinking tons of water they know im dieting. So they know im dieting and they see me try to eat at night or have a *kitten* cookie and they put me down for it like telling me ill never be good enough if i keep doing that. Wow i cant have one slice of anything. I even told her I JUST STARTED AND IT TAKES WEEKS TO FORM A HABIT WTF. SORRY IM JUST RANTING
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  • lillyy23
    lillyy23 Posts: 136 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    1) this is hard to read with all the filth filter swaps to *kitten*

    2) parents can suck, they mean well, but it comes out poorly

    3) you are 25, maybe time to move out

    Sorry you are so frustrated, but from a problem solving perspective, what needs to change? Think about it for a bit. Have you told them how you feel? Have you explained how their words are influencing you?

    I never said I lived with them. I live on my own it still would be nice to get support. Of course I've told them how I feel and its an argument every time. When its about them they dont like to hear it. My parents arent in the greatest shape either. Obviously you don't understand where I'm coming from. Maybe its a European thing but it doesnt matter how many times I tell them how I feel. They are judgemental and think because I'm younger then them I should care about my image and I do thats why im trying to make a change but they are always putting me down. But the minute I say something about them it doesnt matter because they say they already lived their life.
  • lillyy23
    lillyy23 Posts: 136 Member
    Weight loss is all about calories in. Who's to say you can't ever have a slice of pizza or a burger?? Set your daily caloric limit and eat food within your boundaries. If you want a burger, eat lower calories to make room for what you like. You don't have to do a crash diet to lose weight. Just keep a tally of what you eat and set rules. You can do it. :)

    Thanks i guess i was feeling crappy about it my family always puts me down i feel like im all alone in my journey. It doesnt even make me feel like sharing it with anyone until I get real results. Does tthis ever happen to you? Friends or family not supporting you?
  • lillyy23
    lillyy23 Posts: 136 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    lillyy23 wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    1) this is hard to read with all the filth filter swaps to *kitten*

    2) parents can suck, they mean well, but it comes out poorly

    3) you are 25, maybe time to move out

    Sorry you are so frustrated, but from a problem solving perspective, what needs to change? Think about it for a bit. Have you told them how you feel? Have you explained how their words are influencing you?

    I never said I lived with them. I live on my own it still would be nice to get support. Of course I've told them how I feel and its an argument every time. When its about them they dont like to hear it. My parents arent in the greatest shape either. Obviously you don't understand where I'm coming from. Maybe its a European thing but it doesnt matter how many times I tell them how I feel. They are judgemental and think because I'm younger then them I should care about my image and I do thats why im trying to make a change but they are always putting me down. But the minute I say something about them it doesnt matter because they say they already lived their life.

    Actually, your assumption that I don't know is inaccurate. I have taken a low contact approach with my mother specifically for the reason of how critical she is. That was how I chose to deal with it, when talking to her didn't work. I was trying to suggest that you need to look at your options, what your values are, and what can you do to change the situation. Your choice of words in your OP (went down to eat, suggested downstairs, but if you don't live with them, it could have been down as in drove to another town). It seems strange that if you aren't living with them that they still have this much power over your feelings. Honestly, this is something to explore.

    Well thank you. But yeah family is important to me. Doesn't matter how old I get. That's just how I was raised. And yeah I went downstairs to eat. I visit sometimes. But anyways yeah, things got better when I moved out but its like every time we speak its like what did you eat? What have you been eating? Its like i can't slip they think that if I have pizza one day ill gain like 10 pounds. I don't even gain weight that easily.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    lillyy23 wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    lillyy23 wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    1) this is hard to read with all the filth filter swaps to *kitten*

    2) parents can suck, they mean well, but it comes out poorly

    3) you are 25, maybe time to move out

    Sorry you are so frustrated, but from a problem solving perspective, what needs to change? Think about it for a bit. Have you told them how you feel? Have you explained how their words are influencing you?

    I never said I lived with them. I live on my own it still would be nice to get support. Of course I've told them how I feel and its an argument every time. When its about them they dont like to hear it. My parents arent in the greatest shape either. Obviously you don't understand where I'm coming from. Maybe its a European thing but it doesnt matter how many times I tell them how I feel. They are judgemental and think because I'm younger then them I should care about my image and I do thats why im trying to make a change but they are always putting me down. But the minute I say something about them it doesnt matter because they say they already lived their life.

    Actually, your assumption that I don't know is inaccurate. I have taken a low contact approach with my mother specifically for the reason of how critical she is. That was how I chose to deal with it, when talking to her didn't work. I was trying to suggest that you need to look at your options, what your values are, and what can you do to change the situation. Your choice of words in your OP (went down to eat, suggested downstairs, but if you don't live with them, it could have been down as in drove to another town). It seems strange that if you aren't living with them that they still have this much power over your feelings. Honestly, this is something to explore.

    Well thank you. But yeah family is important to me. Doesn't matter how old I get. That's just how I was raised. And yeah I went downstairs to eat. I visit sometimes. But anyways yeah, things got better when I moved out but its like every time we speak its like what did you eat? What have you been eating? Its like i can't slip they think that if I have pizza one day ill gain like 10 pounds. I don't even gain weight that easily.

    I'm not suggesting that low/no contact is appropriate for you. That's why I said to explore it. Counselling helped me a lot in learning to change the way I responded to those behaviours. Not reacting to the behaviours has actually helped reduce the frequency/intensity of them. It's fascinating to observe, really. It also makes the time we do spend together more tolerable. There are options out there so you don't have to keep feeling this way. That's all I'm saying.
  • Iamsimpleguy
    Iamsimpleguy Posts: 1,576 Member
    MFP calculate your calorie goal in that goal you set boundary for yourself and eat what ever you want but it should with in the calories. Lossing weight depends on calories you are taking and releasing through workouts or walking, running or jogging what ever you like to do, but take healthy food which helps to your body.
  • hiyomi
    hiyomi Posts: 906 Member
    If I have learned anything about dieting, its that people will ALWAYS try and make it seem like their way is the best way, that they are right, and you are wrong. Even if I do good, and make a choice of a small fries and grilled chicken sandwich at a fast food place, some friends make snarky comments like "why don't u just get 4 nuggets and no fries at all?" It is very very very frustrating and I know what you mean. All I can say, is that you just have to suck it up and not tell anyone about your diet, progress, or exercise, don't speak about it if you know they will make snarky comments. That's the way I have done it, I know my friends will make snarky comments about it if I tell them what I am doing, so I just don't. And if they still know I'm dieting either way and they see me eating out on the weekend, and if they say anything, I will just joke around about it back at them and say "diets don't exist on weekends, or what diet?!" Just to get them off my back. Usually after that they won't say anything anymore. Another thing is though, sometimes we have to listen a little to those around us, even though it sucks, sometimes those people are right, (even though they come off rude about it) and sometimes we do got to listen to them a little. I know it sucks to hear, it really does. But you have to know when they are right, and when they are just being rude.
  • distinctlybeautiful
    distinctlybeautiful Posts: 1,041 Member
    lillyy23 wrote: »
    Of course I've told them how I feel and its an argument every time. When its about them they dont like to hear it. ... the minute I say something about them it doesnt matter because they say they already lived their life.

    I hear you on the cultural differences, but I see a disconnect in what you said. You go from saying that you've told them how you feel to saying that they ignore you when you talk about them. But telling them how you feel is about you, not them!

    So maybe try it with this formula: "When you (insert action), I feel (insert feeling). The result is (insert result). (Add an optional request for change.)"

    It's a way of stating your feelings without blame. I imagine, for you, it might sound something like, "When you tell me not to eat certain things, I feel frustrated and discouraged. The result is that I don't want to include you in my life." I know I'm probably way off there.. I just wanted to give you an example. You can also add to the end of it something like, "Please try to avoid commenting on what I'm eating." Obviously you gotta say it how it's natural for you, but the formula has to be there.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
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  • morrisseydaisy
    morrisseydaisy Posts: 2 Member
    "they put me down"

    Hiya lilyy23, I have a similar issue with my parents. I was living with my mom and her husband until about 5 months ago. I think parents mean well but sometimes they have personal problems that interfere with how they communicate. I think the whole weight and image issue strikes a cord with everyone, especially if they are not in the best shape either. Someone suggested not reacting, and that has worked for me somewhat, but also doing the opposite and giving them positive feedback or emotional support can help too. I mean, I would compliment my moms husband on how healthy he eats, and say wow thats a health snack, light on the stomach, I think you might be losing weight! Then he would back pedal and something like, no not really, I eat junk food constantly. Anyway, it sometimes will neutralized the whole food issue. Its very emotional, I think. Just my random thoughts, sorry to hear it upsets you so much.

  • jmidd97
    jmidd97 Posts: 84 Member
    I understand your frustration, but I do agree with aggelikik. Its not your family's journey, its yours. It'd be great to receive support from loved ones as we go through it, but that simply is not the case for everyone. Myself, I've had to hide everything about my weight loss from my family and friends, because there is zero support, just worry and annoyance.
    I second Lounmouns advice, seems pretty sound.
  • JemPuddleduck
    JemPuddleduck Posts: 28 Member
    To be honest, everyone is going to have an opinion whether you like it or not. It's got to 100% you behind the driving wheel for motivation and commitment.

    I have been overweight my whole life, I went to university and lost probably only a stone (I wasn't keeping track but got nice comments). When I moved back home, jobless and uni friend less, I regressed back to eating a load and all junk food. You know what fuelled my weight loss? I had a new photo of me uploaded on to Facebook and cause I hadn't down much it appeared, right next to my graduation ones. I looked like twice the girl I had been 6 months.

    So i got this app, I track my food and I have lost 5 pounds so far :) I keep that photo on my facebook and when I am ready, I will upload a new one to inspire me that my weight loss is working.

    It's probably silly but that's all my motivation. I didn't tell anyone I was using this app until I lost 3 pounds and that wasjust close family (who really are indifferent aha)

    I suggest you find you own personal motivationn to drive you. And when I started I just logged my food, no changes, for a week or two. Hitting well over my calorie goal everyday encouraged me to make changes. And it's a lot easier than you think to eat within your goal. To be honest I feel healthier physically and mentally already.

    Feel free to add me for some support.
  • LeeBellPT
    LeeBellPT Posts: 1 Member
    Only you can support you.

    It is fine to tell people how your doing and most people will be positive but to expect them to be really interested is short sighted. you are your strength and you are your focus.

    Cheat days.... well that is like 2 steps forward 1 step back friends of mine oftern have 1 cheat day a week over 7 weeks that's 1 whole week of binge eating. eat lean and have maybe one cheat day a month thats 12 bad eating days a year.

    As for the cut cal's to have a burger!! look at it this way your fueling you body whats better 900 cal's of chicken and veg (or another healthy meal) or 1 burger....whats better for your body???

    sorry it sounds harsh but its down to you to be able to choose and not need some one to hold your hand.

    Find you BMR then take off 500 cal's Eat clean job done.

    Only you can make your self who you want to be
  • Hell_Flower
    Hell_Flower Posts: 348 Member
    One thing I've learnt...

    Dont rely on anyone else to support you (thanks, Baz Luhrmann, you spoke truth)

    You want it, you make it happen. No one is coming to save you.

    Just get in the habit of drowning out the white noise of the critics and the comments. Smile and nod. Then you go on with your bad self and do whatever the *kitten* you need to do.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    motivation comes from within. ignore them.

    if you dont live with them, why are you even telling them what you eat? youre a grown person. its none of their business what or how much you eat.
  • JenRainbow1
    JenRainbow1 Posts: 74 Member
    Parents can be a pain even if you love them. Just try not to let what they say get to you. I'm not having dinner with them now as I can't control what they cook (I live with my boyfriend but I visit sometimes). I think they just care a lot about you and are making sure you are eating. They just worry.
    You can eat healthier burger or pizza. Maybe don't eat any takeaways for a month or so. Make sure you are eating the right amount of food and getting enough exercise but not too much.
    This dieting or healthy eating is very difficult. I've been trying to eat healthy for a month but only now I'm looknig at my calories etc and it's not easy. Try and do what you can, that's all you can do.
    As long as you are trying then you are doing good.
    Keep going
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Parents can be a pain even if you love them. Just try not to let what they say get to you. I'm not having dinner with them now as I can't control what they cook (I live with my boyfriend but I visit sometimes). I think they just care a lot about you and are making sure you are eating. They just worry.
    You can eat healthier burger or pizza. Maybe don't eat any takeaways for a month or so. Make sure you are eating the right amount of food and getting enough exercise but not too much.
    This dieting or healthy eating is very difficult. I've been trying to eat healthy for a month but only now I'm looknig at my calories etc and it's not easy. Try and do what you can, that's all you can do.
    As long as you are trying then you are doing good.
    Keep going

    The best revenge on parents is to have your own children

    Seriously

    Works every time

    :bigsmile:
  • lesleyloo7879
    lesleyloo7879 Posts: 439 Member
    Lounmoun wrote: »
    lillyy23 wrote: »
    I just wanna cry right now. I ate prettty well all day and same *kitten* happens every time. I just started my diet today. And like its always the same damn thing. My mother or dad both either both take sides and tell me not to eat this or that. This time it was my mom i went down to eat i was having a major binging moment i know i slipped but it was the FIRST *kitten* day and she's talking *kitten* like saying im always making excuses and that its always my first day. Im allowed to *kitten* have slip ups. So as long as im dieting i cant ever have another cheat as long as i live??? Is that even human. So i wont be able to ever have pizza or burgers and *kitten* if i wanna be skinny. She puts me down all the time to the point where i don't even wanna try cause every time i tell them im dieting or even if i dont tell them they guess cause when im drinking tons of water they know im dieting. So they know im dieting and they see me try to eat at night or have a *kitten* cookie and they put me down for it like telling me ill never be good enough if i keep doing that. Wow i cant have one slice of anything. I even told her I JUST STARTED AND IT TAKES WEEKS TO FORM A HABIT WTF. SORRY IM JUST RANTING

    I just want to say that you definitely want to eat in a way that you can sustain long term. That means figuring out how to eat pizza or cookies within your calorie goal. I find pre-logging my whole day helps me to meet my goals and eat whatever I want.
    I didn't tell anyone outside of my dh and dd that I was trying to lose weight. They don't question my food choices.

    You could listen to them carefully. Ask them questions about where they got that information from. Thank them for their interest and show off MFP and how easy it is to use. Talk about your goals until they beg you to stop. Talk about logging non stop. Show them scientific studies. Brag about fitting pizza into your calorie goal. Ask how they are doing. Badger them about setting up their own MFP accounts so you can be friends. They can easily improve their health too! Ask them to give you calorie counts for meals they cook you. Share recipes. Buy them a food scale. They wanted to be involved in your weight management after all. This is a topic they love right?
    -Or-
    You could tell them you are an adult and you aren't going to discuss your eating habits and weight anymore with them and change the subject, hang up the phone or leave every time they go there.

    On a final note, your value as a human being is not a number on the scale or a clothing size. You deserve to be your healthiest and live a full life. Do what makes you happy not your parents.

    Brilliant!!!!
  • 100df
    100df Posts: 668 Member
    edited April 2016
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Time to start adulting and realise that it's only what you say to yourself that matters.

    You can't change what people say to you - just how you react to it

    Learning to smile and nod (even have a running Homer Simpson style soundtrack in your head) whilst your loved ones give you well-meaning advice or comment on your choices is a good adult life skill. In fact if you plan to have children ever I would even say that it was vital

    Practice it

    Lol, this is so true!!!!! Needed this today after insane text exchange last night with my kid at college.

    OP, I get it. Extremely frustrating having a Greek chorus involved with your eating. I don't tell anyone that I am "dieting". There is always something aggravating after I tell someone, family or not. With that, I agree with the above comment that says to sit down and explain how MFP works. I would also eat in your own home instead of involving them unless it's a family dinner.

    Your parents love you and want the best for you. They want you to be healthy and happy. While they may not be showing it in the way you want, they are probably doing the best that they can.
  • kazminchu
    kazminchu Posts: 250 Member
    You won't like me saying this, but I'm going to jump on the bandwagon.
    This is YOUR journey. You cannot rely on anyone else to help you because, to be honest, nobody cares about your weight as much as you do. Nobody else will be able to work out what works for YOU. That is something you have to do alone.
    You CAN do it. But you have to stand on your own two feet and put the effort in yourself. Sometimes that means making difficult choices and having difficult conversations with people. It's up to you whether you think it's worth it or not.
  • nuttynanners
    nuttynanners Posts: 249 Member
    lillyy23 wrote: »
    I just wanna cry right now. I ate prettty well all day and same *kitten* happens every time. I just started my diet today. And like its always the same damn thing. My mother or dad both either both take sides and tell me not to eat this or that. This time it was my mom i went down to eat i was having a major binging moment i know i slipped but it was the FIRST *kitten* day and she's talking *kitten* like saying im always making excuses and that its always my first day. Im allowed to *kitten* have slip ups. So as long as im dieting i cant ever have another cheat as long as i live??? Is that even human. So i wont be able to ever have pizza or burgers and *kitten* if i wanna be skinny. She puts me down all the time to the point where i don't even wanna try cause every time i tell them im dieting or even if i dont tell them they guess cause when im drinking tons of water they know im dieting. So they know im dieting and they see me try to eat at night or have a *kitten* cookie and they put me down for it like telling me ill never be good enough if i keep doing that. Wow i cant have one slice of anything. I even told her I JUST STARTED AND IT TAKES WEEKS TO FORM A HABIT WTF. SORRY IM JUST RANTING

    If your family is that unsupportive, don't tell them about it. For me weight loss is very personal and until I get some momentum and some weight lost, I don't talk about it to anybody.

    I feel a lot more pressure when I say things out loud to people, like "I'm going to work out" or "I am eating X calories a day". I have a lot of support through MFP and Instagram and Reddit and that's all I need.
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