Low fat & low carb possible for weight loss success?
valbar61
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I've been trying the Atkins low-carb high-fat and it's just not working for me something about eating all this fat just does not seem right looking for suggestions on whether I can do low-carb and low-fat and if so what is the highest I should go in carbs. Also how much fat.
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Im just curious do im starting the low carb diet. Is this diet a permanent thing for the rest of our lives or does the weight stay off after the time frame?0
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Im just curious do im starting the low carb diet. Is this diet a permanent thing for the rest of our lives or does the weight stay off after the time frame?
You won't gain fat as long as you don't eat a surplus of calories. Once you switch from low carb to high carb your body will gain some water weight while replenishing the glycogen storages.0 -
The best way to keep the weight off after your "timeframe," is to do it the way you took it off in the first place. That means that if you're going to change our eating habits back to what you were doing prior to low carb, low fat, or whatever, then no, you won't keep the weight off, unless you are doing your previous habits at a deficit or maintenance.
For me, there's no point in doing anything differently than I plan to do forever. Basically, I am eating all the same things, but less of them.1 -
Im just curious do im starting the low carb diet. Is this diet a permanent thing for the rest of our lives or does the weight stay off after the time frame?
For me I will not cut anything out (to lose weight) that I do not intend to cut out for the rest of my life. I promise that maintaining your weight loss takes work.
Google your current maintenance calories.....then change 1 factor......change the first number to your goal weight.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
For me that difference was 183 calories. When I reach my goal, I will need to eat 183 FEWER calories forever. I won't be doing low carb forever, so I log all types of food. But snacks and treats are smaller portions.1 -
If you are going to do both low carb and low fat......all that's left is protein. An all protein diet isn't healthy, and it's not a lifestyle change.
Fats are calorie dense. Perhaps you need to tighten up your logging. If you are not losing, it's not the macro.....you are eating more than you think you are. Many people here will weigh portions on a food scale (not just measure them with cups and spoons).3 -
a good place to start is 1 carb per pound of body weight.0
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Been doing 25% carbs and 30% fat. Pretty easily maintainable, although I have to try to actually reach the fat goal many times. Lost 8lbs in the past month, and one pants size down, so I'd say its working okay.0
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Spicy, how did you set that up? did you figure out the math then set your macros on mfp?
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Im just curious do im starting the low carb diet. Is this diet a permanent thing for the rest of our lives or does the weight stay off after the time frame?
It's like any other kind of weight loss. If you lose diligence, if you slack the weight will come back. It doesn't matter if you calorie count, exercise to a deficit, do low carb, do high carb... if you lose sight of the ball, the weight will come back.3 -
RebeccaParmenter wrote: »a good place to start is 1 carb per pound of body weight.
Citation? I've never heard this before.4 -
I've been trying the Atkins low-carb high-fat and it's just not working for me something about eating all this fat just does not seem right looking for suggestions on whether I can do low-carb and low-fat and if so what is the highest I should go in carbs. Also how much fat.
What is it about Atkins that isn't working for you? Eating a large proportion of fat seems counterintuitive to us who have grown up fearing (and loathing and desiring) fat, but it would work regardless of faith, if you do it right.
Essential to weight loss is a proper amount of calories - many enough to keep you energized and healthy, but also few enough to let you lose weight, but not so few that you lose lean (muscle) mass. So, set up MFP with your stats, choose a weight loss goal of not more than 1% of your body weight per week, and try to hit that calorie goal every day, weighing, double checking, and logging - accurately and consistently.
You don't have to choose any particular diet or a go with any school of thought. No splits are better than others. Macro settings are primarily meant to enhance adherence to calorie allotment and nudging you in the direction of a balanced diet. You can't go low carb and low fat at the same time, because that leaves protein to take up the bulk, and that's unbalanced, difficult, boring and expensive, luckily, long before it gets unhealthy.
Try the MFP default (50 carbs, 30 fat, 20 protein) with a proper calorie goal, for a month. If you experience difficulties (hunger, fatigue, cravings, hard to compose tasty meals etc), you can adjust macros, for instance to .6 grams of protein and fat per pound of body weight at healthy weight.0 -
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Thnx0
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suggestions on whether I can do low-carb and low-fat and if so what is the highest I should go in carbs. Also how much fat.
I wouldn't suggest low carb and low fat, because that basically leaves you protein only.
I'm doing low carb and low calorie, the Blood Sugar Diet by Michael Moseley. It's relatively high fat but because it's very low (800) calorie I'm probably eating less fat than I was before.
High fat food is tasty, which makes it relatively easy to follow despite the small portions.
I've lost 20kg/44lbs in 12 weeks.
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so don't eat low carb if you don't want to eat high fat. Pick one or the other.1
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when in doubt eat more proteins and cut on the carbs. with that being said proteins>fat>carbs2
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I've been trying the Atkins low-carb high-fat and it's just not working for me something about eating all this fat just does not seem right looking for suggestions on whether I can do low-carb and low-fat and if so what is the highest I should go in carbs. Also how much fat.
You pretty much have to pick one or the other...you can't really go low on two of only three macros...or I suppose you could just eat chicken and veggies and egg whites all of the time.0 -
I don't think I could see stick with chicken, veg and egg whites for more than two days.
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Just approach it as high protein. Then set your carbs and fat after that to how many carbs you want each day. However... you really need to choose low carb only if you do not want carbs. It is designed for your body to use fat for fuel instead of carbs. Can't do both IMHO without an unhealthy outcome. You can choose keto or moderate carb <70.
You can loose weight any way you want to dice up the macros, you just need to be in a calorie deficit.0 -
I'd tighten up my logging first before cutting both carbs and fat. Eating mostly protein is not going to be sustainable and you likely won't feel too good from it. I took at look at your diary and notice your final calories daily are rather low. That leads me to believe you are not logging everything that you are eating, if you were then you would be losing weight rapidly at that intake.2
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I just have to wonder what you would actually be eating. I have this mental image of eating 1200 calories of broccoli or something.
I agree with @TeaBea. If there is no medical reason it's not necessary to cut out fat or carbs to lose weight.0 -
I don't even look at fat anymore. And in years past, I was convinced I had to stay below 30 grams of fat to lose weight. Now, as long as the fats I'm eating are healthy fats (nuts, avocados, meat etc), I could care less. I count carbs and calories. 6lbs down in 2 weeks. Not a bad start. And best part???? I'm not starving. I'm eating real satisfying meals.
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RebeccaParmenter wrote: »a good place to start is 1 carb per pound of body weight.
Maybe if I weighed 100lbs!!! But when you are obese, that's a LOT of carbs!! 1 carb per pound of IDEAL body weight might be more appropriate.
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fourcheeze wrote: »suggestions on whether I can do low-carb and low-fat and if so what is the highest I should go in carbs. Also how much fat.
I wouldn't suggest low carb and low fat, because that basically leaves you protein only.
I'm doing low carb and low calorie, the Blood Sugar Diet by Michael Moseley. It's relatively high fat but because it's very low (800) calorie I'm probably eating less fat than I was before.
High fat food is tasty, which makes it relatively easy to follow despite the small portions.
I've lost 20kg/44lbs in 12 weeks.
Good luck.
Yea, don't do that. There is no reason to eat so few calories. It's not sustainable. Your body needs nourishment!
OP, whatever you choose, make sure it's something you can stick with. You can't resume old eating habits and think the weight will stay off.0 -
when you are obese you need a lot of fuel.RebeccaParmenter wrote: »a good place to start is 1 carb per pound of body weight.
Maybe if I weighed 100lbs!!! But when you are obese, that's a LOT of carbs!! 1 carb per pound of IDEAL body weight might be more appropriate.0 -
I'm doing the LCHF, but screw Atkins. I eat real food, avoid highly processed food, am gluten-free, and simply plan my meals around low carb and higher fat items. I stay within 40 carbs/day, and am at 1380 calories (give or take- I don't beat myself up if I go over or am a bit under). I lost 5.6lbs within the first week, have plenty of energy, and feel fantastic.3
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when you are obese you need a lot of fuel.RebeccaParmenter wrote: »a good place to start is 1 carb per pound of body weight.
Maybe if I weighed 100lbs!!! But when you are obese, that's a LOT of carbs!! 1 carb per pound of IDEAL body weight might be more appropriate.
I fuel my body with protein and fats. Carbs I keep to 75g. I'm obese. Well, for now. Don't plan on being this way forever. I would never be satisfied if I ate my weight in carbs. Give me a steak and salad thank you very much!
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Would suggest forget Atkins - I' ve managed to lose 68kg ie 150 lb in 21 months - intake 1500-1800 calories per day output c 2800 calories exercising 6 days per week . Concentrated on balanced healthy fresh food veg , salads fruit , fish and chicken all in very tasty combinations . Portion control essential ie weighing and checking packaging carefully . Have snacked on cherry tomatoes , gherkins , pickles - even had the occasional meltdown with chocolate or ice cream as one offs but with compensation next day ( maybe once in 2 months max ! ) Never really been hungry . Patience and perseverance are key as is finding exercise programe that works for you to burn 500 - 700 calories per day . Ive also eliminated the word diet from my vocabulary and substituted with lifestyle change ! I also had acupuncture to boost metabolism but as have moved back to UK from Dubai have not been able to continue with that . Hope some of this may help - If I can help with any details feel free to message me ! Best of luck !!!!!!it canbe donelife is 1000 percent better for me now although still some way to go to my final target .0
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when you are obese you need a lot of fuel.RebeccaParmenter wrote: »a good place to start is 1 carb per pound of body weight.
Maybe if I weighed 100lbs!!! But when you are obese, that's a LOT of carbs!! 1 carb per pound of IDEAL body weight might be more appropriate.
I fuel my body with protein and fats. Carbs I keep to 75g. I'm obese. Well, for now. Don't plan on being this way forever. I would never be satisfied if I ate my weight in carbs. Give me a steak and salad thank you very much!
Some people are trying to do activities that carbs are useful for (as should everyone losing fat). I know all about keto and low carb, that does nothing to argue the fact that 1g of carbs per lb is a decent starting point for most people. Oh, and you can eat steak, salad and carbs by the way 0
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