Getting OLD & not healing
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rosecropper wrote: »Grrrr- good advice is hard to follow!
Thanks everybody
Time to act like an adult.
I found I needed exactly what you said here. I was "rewarding" myself too much and figuring old age simply meant giving in to the various pains and declining health.
Like the others have said, change slowly but persistently and you will make progress. I waited until I was 54 but now I realize my body was designed to move and be active and I feel 38 instead of 58. Sure, there are still limitations but I am light years from where I was and will never allow myself to regress to sitting on the sidelines.
The best years of your life could still be ahead of you, it's your choice whether you live them to your fullest!
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I have injuries and can't exercise vigorously. I have to eat less.0
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rosecropper wrote: »I eat myself fat because I like food & being lazy. Then my clothes stop fitting and I can't walk up a set of stairs without getting winded. I get sick of feeling like crap so I exercise hard and often to get back in shape. Everything is great until i rediscover chocolate and the couch.
Repeat above cycle ad nauseum.
This has been my life for 40+ years.
Sure, going from flab to fit is hard. Injuries are nothing new: bruises, scrapes, blisters, sprains, strains, fractures, toenails falling off, whatever- just work through & it'll heal.
Except now it doesn't! My knees always ache and swell. My ankles roll and the tendons slip. My hips pop out of joint. My heels feel like stabbing hellfire. My shoulders freeze up. My back is stiff ALL THE TIME. My freakin thumbs suddenly & painfully pop out of joint so I drop stuff- WTF?
Anyone else out there faced with the realization your body is wearing out? How do you lose weight and get in shape without strenuous activity every day?
You don't have to do and should not be doing strenuous workouts everyday...particularly if you're getting back into things. Going from nothing to balls out is a crap way of going about things. Most people should be doing light to moderate work most of the time.
Slow the "f" down...getting your fitness back takes time. Treat your body with a little respect.
As weight loss goes, your diet is 99.9% of that battle...you actually don't need exercise at all to lose weight...it's a *kitten* going that route, but exercise isn't necessary to lose weight.1 -
rosecropper wrote: »
So you're not properly fueling, and not healing. Bingo.0 -
I was just reading about an 80 year old guy that can bench 300 lbs. It most certainly gets tougher with age, but it is possible for most people to stay fit and strong even at an "advanced" age.
If you aren't eating meat, you need to get your protein from beans, tofu, wheat gluten etc. I imagine this is a big part of your problem.
He's 92 and looks like Bernie Sanders. He also pulls sumo.0 -
I am 55 & "re-entering" fitness. I lost the most weight doing my "cardio" in heart rate zone 2. For me about 120 BPM. An article I found on MFP stated that our bodies burn fat best in that zone. As we work harder, we burn the electrolytes on hand from recent meals & not the stored fat. I actually lost weight (20lbs) faster than I intended. My treadmill ended up about as slow as it would go. It was easy to do for an hour at a time, watching TV 4 or so times a week. Now i am concentrating on weight training (5x5) & it feels great.0
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rosecropper wrote: »
Uh, yeah, huge factor. It's way harder to get a balance of amino acids on a veggie-only diet...do-able, but you gotta actually plan things a bit. And 30g, even of animal protein, probably isn't enough even for maintenance. And I suspect you're not getting enough fat in your diet, either. No surprise you're body is falling apart with that kind of abuse. Are you pure vegetarian, ovo-lacto, or some variation thereof?
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rosecropper wrote: »
Uh, yeah, huge factor. It's way harder to get a balance of amino acids on a veggie-only diet...do-able, but you gotta actually plan things a bit. And 30g, even of animal protein, probably isn't enough even for maintenance. And I suspect you're not getting enough fat in your diet, either. No surprise you're body is falling apart with that kind of abuse. Are you pure vegetarian, ovo-lacto, or some variation thereof?
Just an aside, as I've always curious... Does lacto-ovo really count? Or the ones who eat fish? Just seems like a different approach to being omni.0 -
ShodanPrime wrote: »rosecropper wrote: »
Uh, yeah, huge factor. It's way harder to get a balance of amino acids on a veggie-only diet...do-able, but you gotta actually plan things a bit. And 30g, even of animal protein, probably isn't enough even for maintenance. And I suspect you're not getting enough fat in your diet, either. No surprise you're body is falling apart with that kind of abuse. Are you pure vegetarian, ovo-lacto, or some variation thereof?
Just an aside, as I've always curious... Does lacto-ovo really count? Or the ones who eat fish? Just seems like a different approach to being omni.
From a nutritional standpoint, ovo-lacto or ovo-lacto + fish will get you a good balance of aminos. That's why I asked... "don't eat animals" is kind of vague as to what the OP will eat.
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Swimming, aquafit, and Tai chi are great exercise that are very gentle and low impact.
Strength train under the guidance of a trainer and progress slowly.0 -
Eat properly (calorie amounts and macro split to support your training), train within your envelope whilst endeavouring to expand it on a consistent basis, hydrate properly and sleep properly.
Result? No injuries, consistent progress and end up much further ahead by taking a grown up approach to it rather than an all-at-once approach to it.0 -
Yeppers- even at 32- I do not recover the same way as I used to. at.all.
More rest- more recovery- more warming up- real warming up- not running around "pretending" to do a warm up with 50 jumping jacks. For dance it takes me a solid 20 minutes to get really warmed and lubricated with my body. It's not all GO GO GO GO- but it takes a hot minute.rosecropper wrote: »
dear god- that probably has a huge impact- even as a vegetarian you should be able to get upwards of 60 grams.0 -
rosecropper wrote: »
30?!?!?! I'm vegan and I get that in my breakfast! I don't think that has to do with not eating animals. I think you need to take a really good look at your diet and REALLY work on upping that protein.3 -
I got Lyme disease when I was only 24 and symptoms like that started. Im 48 now and you coudl say my life has been pretty hellish. I'm trying to use nutrition and physical therapy to make things better but have to be realy careful and go super slow with any kind of physical stuff. when I injure somethign it just doesnt heal. I pulled muscles that have taken months to years to heal. going at a snails pace training adn progressing in tiny incriments is the only way my body can do it, but it seems to work. going at about 10% of what I did when I was healthy. when I was healthy I could do 100 reps , now I can do 5. and can only increase like 1 rep a week. but atleast its doable that way. I also have chronic fatigue syndrome combined with the pain makes me super lazy. so I can totaly relate to the struggle. I'll be on a good role with my exersize and then get realy sick for a few weeks and it will totaly sabotage em and its liek Ive got to start all over again.0
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robdowns1300 wrote: »I am 55 & "re-entering" fitness. I lost the most weight doing my "cardio" in heart rate zone 2. For me about 120 BPM. An article I found on MFP stated that our bodies burn fat best in that zone. As we work harder, we burn the electrolytes on hand from recent meals & not the stored fat. I actually lost weight (20lbs) faster than I intended. My treadmill ended up about as slow as it would go. It was easy to do for an hour at a time, watching TV 4 or so times a week. Now i am concentrating on weight training (5x5) & it feels great.
I would love to read that article. Link?
BTW - While what you say is 'technically' true, it is more of a marketing ploy than good advice.
About this getting older nonsense... I am doing as much today at 47 as I did when I was 18. Build a good fitness base and you can still recover nicely. Sure, you will slow a bit and you have to be smart about training, but there's no 'rule' that says you have to have issues as you age.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
And water fitness. So what if it's full of "old people." Call me old, but it's keeping me in shape (and in my jeans).
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rosecropper wrote: »
Uh, yeah, huge factor. It's way harder to get a balance of amino acids on a veggie-only diet...do-able, but you gotta actually plan things a bit. And 30g, even of animal protein, probably isn't enough even for maintenance. And I suspect you're not getting enough fat in your diet, either. No surprise you're body is falling apart with that kind of abuse. Are you pure vegetarian, ovo-lacto, or some variation thereof?
Just don't like how non-plant foods taste, smell, and sit in my gut.
Progressed from omnivore to vegan incrementally. But knew I needed more than carbs so added back in some cheese & yogurt as that's least objectionable to me.
Starting to use whey protein a bit too. Don't like eggs anymore, but can tolerate if hidden in something sugary like cookies!0 -
@rosecropper LOL eggs hidden in cookies. See if you can enjoy meringue.0
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