Help a vegetable hater

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  • gothomson
    gothomson Posts: 215 Member
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    Frankly you've made your decision to restrict your diet and not tolerate even the suggestion of eating anything you hate. Fair enough, I hope that works out for you. Good luck.
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
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    have you thought about growing your own?
  • aeb09
    aeb09 Posts: 424 Member
    edited April 2016
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    mrprater1 wrote: »
    aeb09 wrote: »
    "Cold, hard facts" from the Washington Post and not an actual scientific study haha. But anyway here are your answers:

    Tuna/chicken + mayo
    Pepperoni, salami, prosciuttto
    Meatballs or meatloaf
    Shrimp, salmon, tuna, tilapia, oysters, clams, etc.
    Hot dogs, sausage
    Bacon
    Almonds or peanuts
    Cheese (sticks, cubes, slices)
    Eggs (fried, scrambled, omelettes, frittatas)
    Butter, oil
    Strawberries, blueberries, blackberries, raspberries (most other fruit will be high in sugar)

    You can probably find recipes here that are low in sugar if you skip over the ones with veggies: http://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/recipes

    Examples: Buffalo chicken meatballs, pizza rolls, no bake chocolate energy bites, mini corn dog bites, taco meatloaf, pizza chicken, etc.

    As you can see, though, all that falls into the categories you already have because there are only so many limited amounts of foods on this planet.

    cold hard facts yes... The post does have its references...

    I gave you legitimately good solutions and that's what you focus on? Cool bro, good luck.
  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
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    girlinahat wrote: »
    have you thought about growing your own?

    He's been asked that a couple of times but hasn't responded. I garden organically--you can build your soil by digging in chopped leaves and grass from a non-chemical sprayed lawn; you can use diatomaceous earth (finely powdered shells from ancient sea creatures) for most pest control, and even better, use row covers so you don't have fruit flies poopin' and pukin' on your food; just earthworms poopin' on the roots. For fertilizer, you can buy fish emulsion which is made from ground-up fish (no vegetables involved!), blood meal, bone meal, and chicken feather meal. So even your plants don't have to be subjected to evil pesticide vegetable cooties.

    That being said, there are some flags that make me dubious of his claims overall. If his claims are true, he definitely needs counselling.
  • jenovatrix
    jenovatrix Posts: 219 Member
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    This is probably the weirdest thread I've ever read.

    There is such a thing as washing produce, you know.
  • CorneliusPhoton
    CorneliusPhoton Posts: 965 Member
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    jenovatrix wrote: »
    This is probably the weirdest thread I've ever read.

    There is such a thing as washing produce, you know.

    Agree with the weird. Unfortunately, systemic pesticides do not wash off.
  • astrampe
    astrampe Posts: 2,169 Member
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    You need to consider counselling.....
  • KNewer88
    KNewer88 Posts: 19 Member
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    If you hate the taste of plain (or steamed, blanched, pureed, ect...) vegetables, why don't you try Indian dishes? It's the only way I have ever been able to eat veggies.

    If not Indian, then there might be some other cuisine you can try that will help with your aversion. It's just a matter of trying different things until you find something that you can enjoy.
  • Gamliela
    Gamliela Posts: 2,468 Member
    edited April 2016
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    Oh C'mon! Hating veg is like hating life itself. Add olive oil and salt to fresh cooked veg and you'll be good to go!
  • Jeffrey300050
    Jeffrey300050 Posts: 93 Member
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    smotheredincheese wrote: »
    Ok I know you don't want advice on how to eat vegetables and would rather die than eat them...BUT: the word 'vegetable' covers a huge spectrum of foods. I am sceptical than you can truly dislike them all.
    Do you eat potatoes for instance?

    This is just silly, when a Dr says eat more vegetables she doesn't mean potatoes lol
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
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    CorneliusPhoton wrote: »
    You claim to have seen many specialists, including dieticians, so I'm not sure why you are even here, other than to start a riot. But playing devil's advocate, I'll assume that you really do not know what a lentil is, and have survived this far on candy bars, ramen noodles, and hamburger. I hope you didn't spend too much on that dietician.

    So. I get it. I worked in the environmental testing arena for years. I tested for all of the horrible things that we are exposed to. Pesticides, PCBs, dioxins, PAHs, VOCs, POPs, etc. Went through my own crisis of not wanting to eat anything that was contaminated (even more so didn't want to feed it to my child). Unfortunately, the reality is that everything is contaminated. Organic pollutants are ubiquitous. Nothing on this Earth is pure, from the arctic to the tropics. By eating food, animals are not "processing" out the contaminants. Sure, maybe some of the more volatile ones get excreted, but the most persistent ones, and the most toxic ones are not going anywhere but into the fatty flesh. Dioxins and furans are some of the most toxic chemicals known. The major sources of human dioxin contamination are beef, dairy, and fish. Whatcha gonna eat now? It's in poultry and pork too. I was heavily involved with an EPA fish study, and still have a hard time eating fish --but I do eat salmon. The thing about salmon is that the benefits outweigh the risks. And it's the same thing with vegetables. Eat the organic ones, and you are getting the benefits and minimizing pesticide risk as much as you can. Your issue with the dirt, the bugs, the bug poop, the bug puke is one of several signs of needing counseling. Not to mention your issue with people trying to get you to eat vegetables.

    I think you understand that you do need the nutrients that are in vegetables. So here is what you need to do:

    Option 1) You need to spend all of your time obsessing about contaminants in every breath you take, every sip of water, everything you eat. You need to research all of the nutrients you are missing because of your food avoidances. Assuming you do actually know *all* of the nutrients you are missing, you need to figure out how many supplements you need to purchase, where your supplements come from (China?), what all is in them, the source of each ingredient, whether or not what is in them is in the right form to be utilized by your body... (somebody joked about eating soylent, but it does exist - a 100% zero actual food supplement shake (https://www.soylent.com/products/))...

    OR,

    Option 2) you can make educated compromises to live your life comfortably and as healthy as possible, without the obsession. Because the benefits outweigh the risks.

    Assuming you are willing to eat real food, hopefully someday... check out EWG's guide to produce. They have tested both conventional and organic produce and have a list of the ones you should definitely avoid due to pesticide residue and those that are fine to eat. You can drill down in their website and actually see the testing results. https://www.ewg.org/foodnews/summary.php. There is a similar guide for seafood.
    The above is all true and how I see it. Once I saw a nutritionist here on TV in Italy talking about contaminants in foods and he said "You can't avoid them, so I suggest that you spread the risk around, meaning that you eat a little of everything and don't concentrate one contaminant, which is where the danger lies". Don't always eat the same things--change it up.

  • CorneliusPhoton
    CorneliusPhoton Posts: 965 Member
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    snowflake954 wrote: »
    The above is all true and how I see it. Once I saw a nutritionist here on TV in Italy talking about contaminants in foods and he said "You can't avoid them, so I suggest that you spread the risk around, meaning that you eat a little of everything and don't concentrate one contaminant, which is where the danger lies". Don't always eat the same things--change it up.

    Thanks for your reply! You said it much more succinctly than I did. :)
    Ciao!

  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
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    CorneliusPhoton wrote: »
    snowflake954 wrote: »
    The above is all true and how I see it. Once I saw a nutritionist here on TV in Italy talking about contaminants in foods and he said "You can't avoid them, so I suggest that you spread the risk around, meaning that you eat a little of everything and don't concentrate one contaminant, which is where the danger lies". Don't always eat the same things--change it up.

    Thanks for your reply! You said it much more succinctly than I did. :)
    Ciao!

    We can exchange congratulations, because your post was packed with realistic information--I enjoyed it.
  • MsBuzzkillington
    MsBuzzkillington Posts: 171 Member
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    You can eat bread, peanut butter, and bread.
  • eeejer
    eeejer Posts: 339 Member
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    Jeffrey300050 wrote: »
    smotheredincheese wrote: »
    Ok I know you don't want advice on how to eat vegetables and would rather die than eat them...BUT: the word 'vegetable' covers a huge spectrum of foods. I am sceptical than you can truly dislike them all.
    Do you eat potatoes for instance?

    This is just silly, when a Dr says eat more vegetables she doesn't mean potatoes lol

    hey, pizza is a vegetable according to congress - http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/pizza-vegetable-congress-says-yes/

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