Diet soda

ma2007pmc · May 2016

Is it really as bad as the health reports say? I get my water in but I also have a "healthy" coke zero addiction.

ReaderGirl3 · May 2016

This is one of the more controversial subjects on MFP, but here's my take for what it's worth-

I switched from regular soda to diet soda back in 2012 when I entered my weight loss phase. I started drinking 3+ cans a day (most days it was actually around 5 servings). I then proceeded to lost around 50lbs and improve every health marker my doctor uses, including getting a high glucose number stabilized into the 80s.

Diet soda had absolutely no affect on my weight loss or health.

Fast forward to now-I'm 3 years into maintenance and was continuing to drink the diet soda, up until a few days ago. I noticed that I was having teeth sensitivity issues after drinking it (my teeth felt 'achy'). While there's a whole lot of woo out there about diet soda, there are legitimate concerns about the phosphoric and citric acids in sodas causing tooth enamel erosion. I decided to cut it out, along with eliminating other sources of citric acid from my diet, and I can already tell a difference in my teeth.

But, I still firmly believe that there's nothing wrong with soda-it's the moderation part I wasn't following, which I think was the culprit with my teeth. I'd now recommend using a straw (dentist recommendation), along with keeping it to just 1-2 servings a day.

There's my .02

jen_bush · May 2016

Everything is okay in moderation, in my opinion.

Heartlight441 · May 2016

I know it's not good, however it's one of my remaining guilty pleasures I allow myself and guilt free too. I have a little most evenings. I will cut it out one day, but not yet.

psuLemon · May 2016

Here is what you will expect to hear in this thread:

1. It causes cravings
2. It cause headaches
3. Aspartame spikes insulin
4. It's worse than regular soda

And the answers are:

1. Most people don't experience this but only a small subset
2. Same as above
3. Not even remotely true
4. Same as above

If you like the taste and helps keep you on track, like it has for me, then go for it. Still drink plenty of water and things like tea.

If you want to know the science behind aspertame, then read : http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1 . Aaron has a PhD and molecular biology and has documented a lot of good information.

ninerbuff · May 2016

It's fine. Lots of "unhealthy" or "it'll make you gain weight" articles use correlation as proof. Especially when they site "chemicals" in it, but not letting people really know that the chemicals are in every day foods that people eat regularly.
Personally I've been drinking it for 25+ years and haven't suffered from any of the ailments that many "health" sites advocate will happen if you do drink it daily and on a regular basis.

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stevencloser · May 2016

psulemon wrote: »

Here is what you will expect to hear in this thread:

1. It causes cravings
2. It cause headaches
3. Aspartame spikes insulin
4. It's worse than regular soda

And the answers are:

1. Most people don't experience this but only a small subset
2. Same as above
3. Not even remotely true
4. Same as above

If you like the taste and helps keep you on track, like it has for me, then go for it. Still drink plenty of water and things like tea.

If you want to know the science behind aspertame, then read : http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1 . Aaron has a PhD and molecular biology and has documented a lot of good information.

Here you go, ruining a perfectly fine 20 page thread to come.

MelaniaTrump · May 2016

It causes cancer --- just wanted to turn this into a 200 page thread.

beemerphile1 · May 2016

My personal experience drinking two cans of diet Pepsi per day at lunch; I started have slurred speech on occasion in the afternoon for no known reason. I stopped drinking diet Pepsi and the slurred speech has not returned after over five years.

Cause and effect in my case and your situation may be different. I believe there is enough evidence of health risk to merit caution and further research.

I now only drink coffee and water. I also refuse to discuss the subject, I am not a scientist but I know without doubt it had a detrimental affect on me.

ma2007pmc · May 2016

Ok....so personal choice....Thanks all.

MindPump1 · May 2016

JanetYellen wrote: »

It causes cancer --- just wanted to turn this into a 200 page thread.

I think you probably did. I got into a debate/argument with people over how unhealthy diet soda is in another thread, and the people are ruthless. I was having this same conversation with a buddy of mine who happens to be a nurse, and he agrees, the Aspartame is what we should be worried about. That is what causes cancer. I'm sure I'll get people that will bark at me and demand I show studies, or websites to back up my view, but I'm just saying what we talked about. Also, do you actually think doctors, will actually say that person A's death was caused by soda? There is to much money in the food industry for death to be linked to soda, or diseases to be directly to soda. So, MFP, have at it.

ma2007pmc · May 2016

Lol... I also use Splenda in my coffee in the morning

ReaderGirl3 · May 2016

alexzenk86 wrote: »

JanetYellen wrote: »

It causes cancer --- just wanted to turn this into a 200 page thread.

I think you probably did. I got into a debate/argument with people over how unhealthy diet soda is in another thread, and the people are ruthless. I was having this same conversation with a buddy of mine who happens to be a nurse, and he agrees, the Aspartame is what we should be worried about. That is what causes cancer. I'm sure I'll get people that will bark at me and demand I show studies, or websites to back up my view, but I'm just saying what we talked about. Also, do you actually think doctors, will actually say that person A's death was caused by soda? There is to much money in the food industry for death to be linked to soda, or diseases to be directly to soda. So, MFP, have at it.

Ah, so when my MD doctor and I discussed me drinking diet soda, and she said it was fine in moderation, it was actually because she was being paid off by Pepsi. Gotcha

My dentist really needs to get with the program because she's been telling me to stop drinking it for years. Pepsi's really dropping the ball there!

extra_medium · May 2016

alexzenk86 wrote: »

JanetYellen wrote: »

It causes cancer --- just wanted to turn this into a 200 page thread.

I think you probably did. I got into a debate/argument with people over how unhealthy diet soda is in another thread, and the people are ruthless. I was having this same conversation with a buddy of mine who happens to be a nurse, and he agrees, the Aspartame is what we should be worried about. That is what causes cancer. I'm sure I'll get people that will bark at me and demand I show studies, or websites to back up my view, but I'm just saying what we talked about. Also, do you actually think doctors, will actually say that person A's death was caused by soda? There is to much money in the food industry for death to be linked to soda, or diseases to be directly to soda. So, MFP, have at it.

It doesn't cause cancer though, there's really nothing to debate.

RGv2 · May 2016

alexzenk86 wrote: »

JanetYellen wrote: »

It causes cancer --- just wanted to turn this into a 200 page thread.

I think you probably did. I got into a debate/argument with people over how unhealthy diet soda is in another thread, and the people are ruthless. I was having this same conversation with a buddy of mine who happens to be a nurse, and he agrees, the Aspartame is what we should be worried about. That is what causes cancer. I'm sure I'll get people that will bark at me and demand I show studies, or websites to back up my view, but I'm just saying what we talked about. Also, do you actually think doctors, will actually say that person A's death was caused by soda? There is to much money in the food industry for death to be linked to soda, or diseases to be directly to soda. So, MFP, have at it.

......and those crazy people that actually ask you to prove what you claim...........for shame.

MindPump1 · May 2016

And here come all the experts in the health industry. Please inform me how soda is healthy for me! You guys are my inspiration!!!

ReaderGirl3 · May 2016

alexzenk86 wrote: »

And here come all the experts in the health industry. Please inform me how soda is healthy for me! You guys are my inspiration!!!

I don't even drink soda anymore and I recognize that your post was flat out wrong. But, yeah really no point

positivepowers · May 2016

psulemon wrote: »

Here is what you will expect to hear in this thread:

1. It causes cravings
2. It cause headaches
3. Aspartame spikes insulin
4. It's worse than regular soda

And the answers are:

1. Most people don't experience this but only a small subset
2. Same as above
3. Not even remotely true
4. Same as above

If you like the taste and helps keep you on track, like it has for me, then go for it. Still drink plenty of water and things like tea.

If you want to know the science behind aspertame, then read : http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1 . Aaron has a PhD and molecular biology and has documented a lot of good information.

I actually tried this. I'm a T2D so blood sugar spikes are important to me. About a year ago, I decided to test the "artificial sweeteners causes blood sugar spikes" rumor. I fasted for a four hours, then drank a 20 oz Diet Pepsi. For the next two hours I took my blood sugars every 15 minutes. They ranged from 97-109, with 109 being the beginning number. These numbers are well within normal variable levels. I'm not phenylkentonuric, I don't have headaches and my teeth are fine. I won't be giving up my diet soda anytime soon!

ETA: I am also cancer free, heart disease free and I use Splenda to sweeten just about everything!

queenliz99 · May 2016

alexzenk86 wrote: »

And here come all the experts in the health industry. Please inform me how soda is healthy for me! You guys are my inspiration!!!

You go first, we need the studies that prove diet soda is bad.

MindPump1 · May 2016

ReaderGirl3 wrote: »

alexzenk86 wrote: »

And here come all the experts in the health industry. Please inform me how soda is healthy for me! You guys are my inspiration!!!

I don't even drink soda anymore and I recognize that your post was flat out wrong. But, yeah really no point

Flat out wrong? Talking to a nurse, who just went to medical school, informs me that the Aspartame is what causes cancer? Yep I'm wrong. Go ahead and believe what you want. I don't drink soda any more. I used to. I loved it, I would drink it every day. But I realized that that along with the food I was consuming was killing me. So I changed my life. I drink water, tea and coffee and stick to a lot healthier foods. But again, the opinions of the people here mean nothing to me.

psuLemon · May 2016

alexzenk86 wrote: »

JanetYellen wrote: »

It causes cancer --- just wanted to turn this into a 200 page thread.

I think you probably did. I got into a debate/argument with people over how unhealthy diet soda is in another thread, and the people are ruthless. I was having this same conversation with a buddy of mine who happens to be a nurse, and he agrees, the Aspartame is what we should be worried about. That is what causes cancer. I'm sure I'll get people that will bark at me and demand I show studies, or websites to back up my view, but I'm just saying what we talked about. Also, do you actually think doctors, will actually say that person A's death was caused by soda? There is to much money in the food industry for death to be linked to soda, or diseases to be directly to soda. So, MFP, have at it.

If you want to take your information from people with no formal training in nutrition (nurses, doctors) vice tons of studies that prove otherwise, that is your prerogative.

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