SUGAR - The culprit!
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If anything, celery is slightly sour.1
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stevencloser wrote: »If anything, celery is slightly sour.
Agreed. I find celery more savory than sweet.
I guess I'm not like 'most women,' either.2 -
ETA - I removed my remarks about the other poster. It was not being helpful which is exactly what I am asking from other people.
Sorry if I offended anyone. I was being bombarded with posts and I just sat and read every one = in order and my remarks were out of line.
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Most likely not. It probably has more to do with overconsumption of food due to low satiety of sugary snacks.LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
This is entirely untrue. Insulin production is a perfectly healthy bodily response. It does not put your body into defensive mode.
FYI: protein also spikes insulin. I wouldn't suggest eliminating protein from your diet.Yes, I've greatly reduced the sugar in my meals & snacks. Right now in the fridge, I have cherries--- they're delicious but I won't eat simple carbs and rarely eat processed foods. Saying goodbye to sugar has been a huge help overall.I cut way back on sugar, and my total carbs too since they are converted to glucose (sugar) in the blood. My sugar intake is always belw 10g per day; often belw 5g. I feel so much better eating this way that I have no plans to ever go back to higher sugar or higher carbs.
Quite honestly, the hardest part about giving up sugar was the anticipation - just thinking about it. Doing it wasn't too hard after a couple of days.
Glad you are feeling better.
Also, protein not utilized for muscle protein synthesis will also be converted into glucose.LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
No one insulted anyone.
Maybe do what my parents told me as a kid and put your feelings away so they don't get stepped on.
Maybe your parents should have taught you to not say anything if you don't have something helpful to say...
I came here to read and learn and try to see what others were doing. OF COURSE I'm not an expert (although there are PLENTY of EXPERTS here) I didn't come to write a term paper,citing my sources, etc.. I came with the knowledge I have learned hoping to learn more. I have lost close to 40lbs doing what I'm doing. I applaud all of your losses, as I know it is difficult, but different things work for different people.
Good luck to all of you.
and Lemurcat12... I really hope you aren't that as miserable and judgmental as you come off as being when you step out from behind your keyboard...no amount of weight loss can help a nasty personality.
When @lemurcat12 is being called out as the nasty personality, the thread has really gone off the rails. Wow.19 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Most likely not. It probably has more to do with overconsumption of food due to low satiety of sugary snacks.LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
This is entirely untrue. Insulin production is a perfectly healthy bodily response. It does not put your body into defensive mode.
FYI: protein also spikes insulin. I wouldn't suggest eliminating protein from your diet.Yes, I've greatly reduced the sugar in my meals & snacks. Right now in the fridge, I have cherries--- they're delicious but I won't eat simple carbs and rarely eat processed foods. Saying goodbye to sugar has been a huge help overall.I cut way back on sugar, and my total carbs too since they are converted to glucose (sugar) in the blood. My sugar intake is always belw 10g per day; often belw 5g. I feel so much better eating this way that I have no plans to ever go back to higher sugar or higher carbs.
Quite honestly, the hardest part about giving up sugar was the anticipation - just thinking about it. Doing it wasn't too hard after a couple of days.
Glad you are feeling better.
Also, protein not utilized for muscle protein synthesis will also be converted into glucose.LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
No one insulted anyone.
Maybe do what my parents told me as a kid and put your feelings away so they don't get stepped on.
Maybe your parents should have taught you to not say anything if you don't have something helpful to say...
I came here to read and learn and try to see what others were doing. OF COURSE I'm not an expert (although there are PLENTY of EXPERTS here) I didn't come to write a term paper,citing my sources, etc.. I came with the knowledge I have learned hoping to learn more. I have lost close to 40lbs doing what I'm doing. I applaud all of your losses, as I know it is difficult, but different things work for different people.
Good luck to all of you.
and Lemurcat12... I really hope you aren't that as miserable and judgmental as you come off as being when you step out from behind your keyboard...no amount of weight loss can help a nasty personality.
This just in: facts aren't helpful. Yikes.10 -
diannethegeek wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Most likely not. It probably has more to do with overconsumption of food due to low satiety of sugary snacks.LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
This is entirely untrue. Insulin production is a perfectly healthy bodily response. It does not put your body into defensive mode.
FYI: protein also spikes insulin. I wouldn't suggest eliminating protein from your diet.Yes, I've greatly reduced the sugar in my meals & snacks. Right now in the fridge, I have cherries--- they're delicious but I won't eat simple carbs and rarely eat processed foods. Saying goodbye to sugar has been a huge help overall.I cut way back on sugar, and my total carbs too since they are converted to glucose (sugar) in the blood. My sugar intake is always belw 10g per day; often belw 5g. I feel so much better eating this way that I have no plans to ever go back to higher sugar or higher carbs.
Quite honestly, the hardest part about giving up sugar was the anticipation - just thinking about it. Doing it wasn't too hard after a couple of days.
Glad you are feeling better.
Also, protein not utilized for muscle protein synthesis will also be converted into glucose.LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
No one insulted anyone.
Maybe do what my parents told me as a kid and put your feelings away so they don't get stepped on.
Maybe your parents should have taught you to not say anything if you don't have something helpful to say...
I came here to read and learn and try to see what others were doing. OF COURSE I'm not an expert (although there are PLENTY of EXPERTS here) I didn't come to write a term paper,citing my sources, etc.. I came with the knowledge I have learned hoping to learn more. I have lost close to 40lbs doing what I'm doing. I applaud all of your losses, as I know it is difficult, but different things work for different people.
Good luck to all of you.
and Lemurcat12... I really hope you aren't that as miserable and judgmental as you come off as being when you step out from behind your keyboard...no amount of weight loss can help a nasty personality.
When @lemurcat12 is being called out as the nasty personality, the thread has really gone off the rails. Wow.
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Most likely not. It probably has more to do with overconsumption of food due to low satiety of sugary snacks.LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
This is entirely untrue. Insulin production is a perfectly healthy bodily response. It does not put your body into defensive mode.
FYI: protein also spikes insulin. I wouldn't suggest eliminating protein from your diet.Yes, I've greatly reduced the sugar in my meals & snacks. Right now in the fridge, I have cherries--- they're delicious but I won't eat simple carbs and rarely eat processed foods. Saying goodbye to sugar has been a huge help overall.I cut way back on sugar, and my total carbs too since they are converted to glucose (sugar) in the blood. My sugar intake is always belw 10g per day; often belw 5g. I feel so much better eating this way that I have no plans to ever go back to higher sugar or higher carbs.
Quite honestly, the hardest part about giving up sugar was the anticipation - just thinking about it. Doing it wasn't too hard after a couple of days.
Glad you are feeling better.
Also, protein not utilized for muscle protein synthesis will also be converted into glucose.LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
No one insulted anyone.
Maybe do what my parents told me as a kid and put your feelings away so they don't get stepped on.
Maybe your parents should have taught you to not say anything if you don't have something helpful to say...
I came here to read and learn and try to see what others were doing. OF COURSE I'm not an expert (although there are PLENTY of EXPERTS here) I didn't come to write a term paper,citing my sources, etc.. I came with the knowledge I have learned hoping to learn more. I have lost close to 40lbs doing what I'm doing. I applaud all of your losses, as I know it is difficult, but different things work for different people.
Good luck to all of you.
and Lemurcat12... I really hope you aren't that as miserable and judgmental as you come off as being when you step out from behind your keyboard...no amount of weight loss can help a nasty personality.
Definitely sour not sweet....6 -
diannethegeek wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Most likely not. It probably has more to do with overconsumption of food due to low satiety of sugary snacks.LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
This is entirely untrue. Insulin production is a perfectly healthy bodily response. It does not put your body into defensive mode.
FYI: protein also spikes insulin. I wouldn't suggest eliminating protein from your diet.Yes, I've greatly reduced the sugar in my meals & snacks. Right now in the fridge, I have cherries--- they're delicious but I won't eat simple carbs and rarely eat processed foods. Saying goodbye to sugar has been a huge help overall.I cut way back on sugar, and my total carbs too since they are converted to glucose (sugar) in the blood. My sugar intake is always belw 10g per day; often belw 5g. I feel so much better eating this way that I have no plans to ever go back to higher sugar or higher carbs.
Quite honestly, the hardest part about giving up sugar was the anticipation - just thinking about it. Doing it wasn't too hard after a couple of days.
Glad you are feeling better.
Also, protein not utilized for muscle protein synthesis will also be converted into glucose.LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
No one insulted anyone.
Maybe do what my parents told me as a kid and put your feelings away so they don't get stepped on.
Maybe your parents should have taught you to not say anything if you don't have something helpful to say...
I came here to read and learn and try to see what others were doing. OF COURSE I'm not an expert (although there are PLENTY of EXPERTS here) I didn't come to write a term paper,citing my sources, etc.. I came with the knowledge I have learned hoping to learn more. I have lost close to 40lbs doing what I'm doing. I applaud all of your losses, as I know it is difficult, but different things work for different people.
Good luck to all of you.
and Lemurcat12... I really hope you aren't that as miserable and judgmental as you come off as being when you step out from behind your keyboard...no amount of weight loss can help a nasty personality.
When @lemurcat12 is being called out as the nasty personality, the thread has really gone off the rails. Wow.
Agreed 1000%
Same thing with Carlos. That's good info, how isn't it being helpful?5 -
This thread is fascinating. It was easily one of the tamest and more helpful sugar threads we've seen on the boards in years and the OP managed to drag it into the mud anyway.13
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »Maybe your parents should have taught you to not say anything if you don't have something helpful to say...
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diannethegeek wrote: »This thread is fascinating. It was easily one of the tamest and more helpful sugar threads we've seen on the boards in years and the OP managed to drag it into the mud anyway.
She at least apologized. Most just never come back to their threads.6 -
This thread makes my head hurt.2
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ETA - I removed my remarks about the other poster. It was not being helpful which is exactly what I am asking from other people.
Sorry if I offended anyone. I was being bombarded with posts and I just sat and read every one = in order and my remarks were out of line.
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Thank you for coming back to post this and remove your earlier remarks. It's really easy to feel bombarded here when a thread gets popular fast, but I think most people really were trying to be helpful. Someone once told me to read the posts here in Kermit the Frog's voice to try and lighten up the tone. Sometimes it helps :drinker:5 -
ETA - I removed my remarks about the other poster. It was not being helpful which is exactly what I am asking from other people.
Sorry if I offended anyone. I was being bombarded with posts and I just sat and read every one = in order and my remarks were out of line.
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Bravo OP!
By the way the first and second rules of internet debating are:
1/ Never back down.
2/ Never apologise.
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Anyone on this journey has reduced their sugar intake. I generally get around 50 mg. That's below my red line and I get there without adding sugar to anything.2
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lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
I know how much our "frame of mind" affects how we read these comments. I find lemurcat12 to be helpful, wise and incredibly patient. We have had different experiences so we have different perspectives, but I'm able to read her post in the friendly tone I think she meant it to be.
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I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
I'm assuming you meant PMS, when estrogen drops, or menopause when estrogen takes the escalator down. I craved sweets at those times. And those sweets were a big factor in my weight gain. Of course it was excess calories that caused me to gain weight, but my consumption of and desire for meat and vegetables didn't increase, only sweet treats. Some of them were decadently fatty, so my protein as a percentage of calorie intake probably plummeted. I have experienced reduced sugar cravings after a period of time where I've cut back drastically on sugar. Ditto for when I consume more protein. Conjecture on my part, but perhaps a change in gut bacteria play a role. In fact, I know it's heresy to speak of cleanses, but after my colonoscopy I was delighted to find a change in my desire for sugar. I had been putting a teaspoon of sugar in my coffee in the morning and after a while it was a mounded teaspoon, then two teaspoons and still wasn't as sweet as I'd like. The morning after the colonoscopy I went back to a level teaspoon and was surprised that it tasted wonderfully sweet. As to your overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable comment, I'm assuming you meant the increased possibility of spiralling downwards when you let your sugar consumption get out of hand. I experienced some of that, although luckily not the entire spiral dive.
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In my case, the culprit was shoveling too much food in to my mouth... yes, there was sugar, but also salty foods, fatty foods - all the foods! I'm now experimenting with lower sugar foods to see how/if it affects my energy levels and satiety. When I'm out for a long bike ride, though, I'll eat mostly sugary goodness :-)1
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I wonder sometimes the lack of sugar makes some people really anger. Hhhmmm....
OP I lost 121 pounds eating sugary foods in moderation, I have now maintained for almost 20 months. I am perfect health, per my doctor and blood work, and also reverse my heart disease, which you all believe causes heart disease yet I beat it.7 -
I wonder sometimes the lack of sugar makes some people really anger. Hhhmmm....
OP I lost 121 pounds eating sugary foods in moderation, I have now maintained for almost 20 months. I am perfect health, per my doctor and blood work, and also reverse my heart disease, which you all believe causes heart disease yet I beat it.
IKR, have a snickers!4 -
goldthistime wrote: »I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
I'm assuming you meant PMS, when estrogen drops, or menopause when estrogen takes the escalator down. I craved sweets at those times. And those sweets were a big factor in my weight gain. Of course it was excess calories that caused me to gain weight, but my consumption of and desire for meat and vegetables didn't increase, only sweet treats. Some of them were decadently fatty, so my protein as a percentage of calorie intake probably plummeted. I have experienced reduced sugar cravings after a period of time where I've cut back drastically on sugar. Ditto for when I consume more protein. Conjecture on my part, but perhaps a change in gut bacteria play a role. In fact, I know it's heresy to speak of cleanses, but after my colonoscopy I was delighted to find a change in my desire for sugar. I had been putting a teaspoon of sugar in my coffee in the morning and after a while it was a mounded teaspoon, then two teaspoons and still wasn't as sweet as I'd like. The morning after the colonoscopy I went back to a level teaspoon and was surprised that it tasted wonderfully sweet. As to your overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable comment, I'm assuming you meant the increased possibility of spiralling downwards when you let your sugar consumption get out of hand. I experienced some of that, although luckily not the entire spiral dive.
I don't crave sweet food with PMS. Only salty.0 -
MarziPanda95 wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
I'm assuming you meant PMS, when estrogen drops, or menopause when estrogen takes the escalator down. I craved sweets at those times. And those sweets were a big factor in my weight gain. Of course it was excess calories that caused me to gain weight, but my consumption of and desire for meat and vegetables didn't increase, only sweet treats. Some of them were decadently fatty, so my protein as a percentage of calorie intake probably plummeted. I have experienced reduced sugar cravings after a period of time where I've cut back drastically on sugar. Ditto for when I consume more protein. Conjecture on my part, but perhaps a change in gut bacteria play a role. In fact, I know it's heresy to speak of cleanses, but after my colonoscopy I was delighted to find a change in my desire for sugar. I had been putting a teaspoon of sugar in my coffee in the morning and after a while it was a mounded teaspoon, then two teaspoons and still wasn't as sweet as I'd like. The morning after the colonoscopy I went back to a level teaspoon and was surprised that it tasted wonderfully sweet. As to your overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable comment, I'm assuming you meant the increased possibility of spiralling downwards when you let your sugar consumption get out of hand. I experienced some of that, although luckily not the entire spiral dive.
I don't crave sweet food with PMS. Only salty.
I have a few friends who have never experienced any form of PMS at all. No cravings, no mood changes, nothing. One of them believes that women who insist that they are profoundly influenced by these hormonal changes (like I was) are just looking for an excuse for their bad behaviour. Once again, different experiences and different perspectives.
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MarziPanda95 wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
I'm assuming you meant PMS, when estrogen drops, or menopause when estrogen takes the escalator down. I craved sweets at those times. And those sweets were a big factor in my weight gain. Of course it was excess calories that caused me to gain weight, but my consumption of and desire for meat and vegetables didn't increase, only sweet treats. Some of them were decadently fatty, so my protein as a percentage of calorie intake probably plummeted. I have experienced reduced sugar cravings after a period of time where I've cut back drastically on sugar. Ditto for when I consume more protein. Conjecture on my part, but perhaps a change in gut bacteria play a role. In fact, I know it's heresy to speak of cleanses, but after my colonoscopy I was delighted to find a change in my desire for sugar. I had been putting a teaspoon of sugar in my coffee in the morning and after a while it was a mounded teaspoon, then two teaspoons and still wasn't as sweet as I'd like. The morning after the colonoscopy I went back to a level teaspoon and was surprised that it tasted wonderfully sweet. As to your overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable comment, I'm assuming you meant the increased possibility of spiralling downwards when you let your sugar consumption get out of hand. I experienced some of that, although luckily not the entire spiral dive.
I don't crave sweet food with PMS. Only salty.
I was an equal opportunity consumer.
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Salty is definitely my more likely craving also. Or spicy.0
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This covers it for me! Hits all the macros!
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/230159/sweet-salty-spicy-party-nuts/1 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Anyone on this journey has reduced their sugar intake. I generally get around 50 mg. That's below my red line and I get there without adding sugar to anything.
See that's a deceptive statement. I wouldn't say I reduced my sugar intake, but I reduced my overall intake of foods so that I wouldn't go over calories. By default I have lowered several macros because I am no longer consuming in the same quantities I was before. But I have in no way limited sugar as I find that that's the best way for me to snap like a bad ripcord and eat the world in ice cream.3 -
I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
I definitely get miserable and depressed by eating to much processed sugar. My belly gets bloated and my mood is dropping. Glad you feel better.2 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Anyone on this journey has reduced their sugar intake. I generally get around 50 mg. That's below my red line and I get there without adding sugar to anything.
I think this 'anyone' is as misleading as the 'most women' statement.
I haven't particularly reduced my sugar intake - I must eat less sugar than before I lost weight, but then I eat less everything, just less food in general , not specifically less sugar.
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goldthistime wrote: »I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
I'm assuming you meant PMS, when estrogen drops, or menopause when estrogen takes the escalator down. I craved sweets at those times. And those sweets were a big factor in my weight gain. Of course it was excess calories that caused me to gain weight, but my consumption of and desire for meat and vegetables didn't increase, only sweet treats. Some of them were decadently fatty, so my protein as a percentage of calorie intake probably plummeted. I have experienced reduced sugar cravings after a period of time where I've cut back drastically on sugar. Ditto for when I consume more protein. Conjecture on my part, but perhaps a change in gut bacteria play a role. In fact, I know it's heresy to speak of cleanses, but after my colonoscopy I was delighted to find a change in my desire for sugar. I had been putting a teaspoon of sugar in my coffee in the morning and after a while it was a mounded teaspoon, then two teaspoons and still wasn't as sweet as I'd like. The morning after the colonoscopy I went back to a level teaspoon and was surprised that it tasted wonderfully sweet. As to your overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable comment, I'm assuming you meant the increased possibility of spiralling downwards when you let your sugar consumption get out of hand. I experienced some of that, although luckily not the entire spiral dive.
Thank you for clarifying this. I'm new here and didn't realize how quickly the threads get feisty, even when not advocating something unhealthy. I thought it might be fun to post a bit about my own experience. The boards have provided me with much inspiration. When you find something that changes your life, you're excited to share in case someone else might be struggling with the same issues. It takes the wind out of your sails a bit when people seem so eager to poop on your party. I appreciate that you and a couple others were able to elaborate in a positive way. I guess I better get thicker skin or else go back to just reading the boards.2
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