What kind of fat are you?

If you are interested in this topic, watch (stream) In Defense of Food on PBS. It is explained in the program.

DorkothyParker wrote: »

All three, but not technically over weight. (20 BMI)
I don't know what that had to do with the main piece of the article. But I do think gut flora is important and I should eat more kimchi.

Random fact about kimchi. It often contains gluten and seafood (shrimp paste). Founds some interesting options if you are vegetarian or have celiac disease.

https://blog.goodatlas.com/kimchi-for-everyone/

It's not contagious. It's not a virus or a bacteria that people can catch. The problem is the food we eat. Our society values convenience over health. That's why corn and soy are subsidized by the government but beans and spinach aren't. Obesity is not a contagious illness it's a public fiasco that values big business and money over the health of individuals. How many mothers fed their kids applesauce in the 80s and 90s thinking it was healthy for their children. It's loaded with sugar and when mom goes back to work it's much easier to pick up moats from the store than to peel, slice, and cook the apples yourself and control how much sugar is in the food you and your children eat. But yet when Obama pushes to put added sugar on food labels, that mind you most people don't know how to read, the food industry throws a big tantrum and throws their money at their politicians to make sure it doesn't happen. And the dumbasses we elect in office take that money and run with it.

Honestly, the obesity epidemic isn't caused by people who don't care that they're unhealthy. It's caused by people who are just thoroughly uneducated about nutrition and everywhere you look are lies about health and wellness.

I don't understand the question. I'm less fat than the fat I've been the last 40 years but I'm still 60+ lb from my BMI goal. I understand from a certain young know-it-all that even then I'll be 'skinny fat'. I guess that means I'm still the garden variety of 'fat fat'.

winston wrote: »

DorkothyParker wrote: »

All three, but not technically over weight. (20 BMI)
I don't know what that had to do with the main piece of the article. But I do think gut flora is important and I should eat more kimchi.

Random fact about kimchi. It often contains gluten and seafood (shrimp paste). Founds some interesting options if you are vegetarian or have celiac disease.

https://blog.goodatlas.com/kimchi-for-everyone/

I would totally order these but a) it's a website from South Koren and b) I don't live in South Korea.

I really dig kimchi - they sell a vegetarian version in glass jars at Publix, for anyone who lives in the southeastern United States. Most other brands sold at health food stores tend to be pricey.

I'm the kind of fat that no matter what happens in life.... i'm not taking a poop pill for my gut bacteria.

Wicked_Seraph wrote: »

I swear to God, I hate the way most scientific studies are reported by the media. Obesity is complex, sure, but I've never seen such a desperate attempt to paint obesity as totally outside one's control. I'm obese myself, and I find it almost insulting to insinuate that we're so far outside the realm of normal that clearly it's because I caught some bad gut flora or have rotten genes rather than, idk, eating way more f*cking calories than I was burning?

I'm obese fat, currently working towards overweight-fat and then not-fat. That's all there is to it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This. Yes, there are aspects of obesity that are related to social, psychological, and even genetic factors, but they have nothing to do with the way the media portrays them. None of then negate CICO, for one.

It's immensely frustrating because it's a fascinating topic but the media has to sensationalise it and spin it in a way that makes it sounds like "oh yeah, there is nothing to do about it".

I would not say I am any particular "kind" of fat. I'm a binge eater and for the past 2 years, I've avoided dealing with it because I couldn't decide if I was genuinely disordered or just lacked control. I don't like making excuses for what is simply bad behavior so I blamed myself (because that helped). It wasn't until I really realized what I was doing (eating in secret, eating without realizing it, etc.) that I understood how much of a problem it was and even still, the power to lose weight is within my control. My body does not actually resist losing weight. My brain is just slightly odd right now. I am working on myself, though, and have not binged in close to a week. I'm sure I'll have a bad day at some point but I haven't yet and I'm remaining positive. I don't believe the idea that weight loss is outside most peoples' control. I'm sure someone has some sort of condition that makes it very hard, maybe even next to impossible, but I do not think this is common.