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What kind of fat are you?
GaleHawkins
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telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/05/04/obesity-could-be-contagious-like-superbug-cdiff-suggest-scientis/
Obesity could be contagious like superbug C.diff, suggest scientists ????
Obesity could be contagious like superbug C.diff, suggest scientists ????
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Not fat0
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Also not fat and never was fat0
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Not fat0
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I'm the kind of fat person who likes food, and the people who have shared bathrooms with me have not caught my terrible poop disease. Don't ship me off to the sanatorium, please.5
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I'm not.0
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Not fat.0
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Or instead of obesity being contagious via gut bacteria to those in the same home.....the people sharing a home could....be eating the same, overly caloric, diets and sharing the same lack of physical exercise.27
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Or instead of obesity being contagious via gut bacteria to those in the same home.....the people sharing a home could....be eating the same, overly caloric, diets and sharing the same lack of physical exercise.
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Happily ... I'm not fat.
I have only been overweight 3 times in my life.
Once for about 3 months back in 1991. I'd been through a major surgery and then almost as soon as I was somewhat recovered started packing to move to another province ... so I wasn't really exercising much or paying attention. About a week after we arrived in the new place I stepped on the scale and discovered I had crept up into the overweight range. A month later I was no longer overweight.
In 2011, after recovering from a pretty major case of DVT and a move to another country + another move within that country, combined with several other fairly stressful situations ... I stepped on the scale again and discovered I was overweight. Again, not exercising much or paying attention. 13 weeks later I was no longer overweight.
In January 2015, after going through 2 surgeries (both cancer scares) plus a whole bunch of unsettledness (more moves, new job, etc.) ... I was overweight again. I joined MFP toward the end of February and about 12 weeks later, I was no longer overweight. I've been within the normal range for the past year.
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Not fat.
Agree that eating similar food and the fact that habits are often similar probably has more to do with obesity within a family or roommates. Walter Willett has a book about how associations tend to have an influence called Thinfluence and there have been other studies.1 -
Nope, not fat in spite of being around overweight people all the time
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So much click bait.3
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I grew up in a home with overweight parents. My siblings and I were normal weight or underweight until our 20's when we had lifestyle changes and moved out. One sibling's weight dropped. She is underweight for her height. Her husband and children are healthy weights. My other sibling gained and was slightly overweight for awhile. He lost the weight. His wife has always been overweight but his children are not overweight. I was underweight, then a healthy weight and finally gained 50 lbs to reach just over the obese line and the other people in my household still were not overweight.
I gained weight because I was eating too many calories for my size and activity level. It is incredibly easy to do that.2 -
I became stressed fat reading that article...
That said, it is very thought provoking and I will look out for further developments in this line of investigation.0 -
I have slightly higher body fat than I'd like (12-14%) but I don't think there's any world where I'm fat.1
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I am none of those types of fat. *but i am overweight*
People are fat because of imbalanced gut flora?
Or do they have an imbalanced gut flora because they are fat, ie: unhealthy?
Why must our weight due to overeating and sedentary lifestyle always try to be blamed on other things?
BREAKING NEWS: Airborne obesity super-bug hits NYC!!! Oh noes!!
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While I do believe that gut flora plays significant roll in our overall health and I do believe it has a roll in weight management, I think a family sharing similar food habits and overeating has more to do with the obesity epidemic than contagious bad gut bacteria. People have bad gut flora because of crap diets and eating habits.3
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MommyMeggo wrote: »I am none of those types of fat. *but i am overweight*
People are fat because of imbalanced gut flora?
Or do they have an imbalanced gut flora because they are fat, ie: unhealthy?
Why must our weight due to overeating and sedentary lifestyle always try to be blamed on other things?
BREAKING NEWS: Airborne obesity super-bug hits NYC!!! Oh noes!!
Well if you read through to the end that vaguely relates to the title, you don't get fat because of your gut bacteria; you get fat because you're tired or stressed. And none of the solutions mention getting a fecal transfer or eating probacteria; just get more sleep, exercise more, control food intake.
Shocking advice really.0 -
MommyMeggo wrote: »I am none of those types of fat. *but i am overweight*
People are fat because of imbalanced gut flora?
Or do they have an imbalanced gut flora because they are fat, ie: unhealthy?
Why must our weight due to overeating and sedentary lifestyle always try to be blamed on other things?
BREAKING NEWS: Airborne obesity super-bug hits NYC!!! Oh noes!!
Well if you read through to the end that vaguely relates to the title, you don't get fat because of your gut bacteria; you get fat because you're tired or stressed. And none of the solutions mention getting a fecal transfer or eating probacteria; just get more sleep, exercise more, control food intake.
Shocking advice really.
I read until the end. You may notice how I specified i was none of those categories of fat- which are listed at the bottom of the page.
I am speaking to the body of the article referencing gut bacteria.
"I think there are definitely disease that are caused by an imbalance in microbiotia. If you look at something like Inflammatory Bowel Disease. Or obesity, that’s a possibility"
Apparently per this statement obesity is vaguely referred to as a disease that may be cause by an imbalance of microbiotia.
Yes- we are fat because we need probitotics not because of our frequent trips to the drive-thru at McDs <sarc>
And they do reference a probiotic type advancement:
"But now the team has compiled a library of new bacteria they are hoping to create a pill containing a mix of bugs which could restore healthy levels."
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MommyMeggo wrote: »MommyMeggo wrote: »I am none of those types of fat. *but i am overweight*
People are fat because of imbalanced gut flora?
Or do they have an imbalanced gut flora because they are fat, ie: unhealthy?
Why must our weight due to overeating and sedentary lifestyle always try to be blamed on other things?
BREAKING NEWS: Airborne obesity super-bug hits NYC!!! Oh noes!!
Well if you read through to the end that vaguely relates to the title, you don't get fat because of your gut bacteria; you get fat because you're tired or stressed. And none of the solutions mention getting a fecal transfer or eating probacteria; just get more sleep, exercise more, control food intake.
Shocking advice really.
I read until the end. You may notice how I specified i was none of those categories of fat- which are listed at the bottom of the page.
I am speaking to the body of the article referencing gut bacteria.
"I think there are definitely disease that are caused by an imbalance in microbiotia. If you look at something like Inflammatory Bowel Disease. Or obesity, that’s a possibility"
Apparently per this statement obesity is vaguely referred to as a disease that may be cause by an imbalance of microbiotia.
Yes- we are fat because we need probitotics not because of our frequent trips to the drive-thru at McDs <sarc>
And they do reference a probiotic type advancement:
"But now the team has compiled a library of new bacteria they are hoping to create a pill containing a mix of bugs which could restore healthy levels."
Ah, I was going off the statement that you aren't any of the types of fat. And I'm still annoyed that the title refers to something completely made up that they tacked on to the end of the "article" and has nothing do with the actual text.0 -
MommyMeggo wrote: »MommyMeggo wrote: »I am none of those types of fat. *but i am overweight*
People are fat because of imbalanced gut flora?
Or do they have an imbalanced gut flora because they are fat, ie: unhealthy?
Why must our weight due to overeating and sedentary lifestyle always try to be blamed on other things?
BREAKING NEWS: Airborne obesity super-bug hits NYC!!! Oh noes!!
Well if you read through to the end that vaguely relates to the title, you don't get fat because of your gut bacteria; you get fat because you're tired or stressed. And none of the solutions mention getting a fecal transfer or eating probacteria; just get more sleep, exercise more, control food intake.
Shocking advice really.
I read until the end. You may notice how I specified i was none of those categories of fat- which are listed at the bottom of the page.
I am speaking to the body of the article referencing gut bacteria.
"I think there are definitely disease that are caused by an imbalance in microbiotia. If you look at something like Inflammatory Bowel Disease. Or obesity, that’s a possibility"
Apparently per this statement obesity is vaguely referred to as a disease that may be cause by an imbalance of microbiotia.
Yes- we are fat because we need probitotics not because of our frequent trips to the drive-thru at McDs <sarc>
And they do reference a probiotic type advancement:
"But now the team has compiled a library of new bacteria they are hoping to create a pill containing a mix of bugs which could restore healthy levels."
Ah, I was going off the statement that you aren't any of the types of fat. And I'm still annoyed that the title refers to something completely made up that they tacked on to the end of the "article" and has nothing do with the actual text.
Im with you!!
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I have Inflammatory Bowel disease and am not obese. Plus there is no conclusive evidence that IBD is caused by an imbalance of microbiotia. There are many possible causes (they aren't sure of the cause yet)0
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I hate to be indelicate, but when I first read through this article last night, I thought they were saying (ahem) poop spores were spread through the open air, so I was thinking, "stay away from farts," (note: always universally good advice) but now that I re-read, I see it's saying the spores can just *survive* in the open air, not that they are necessarily floating through it, so now I'm thinking the best advice is, "don't lick the spores off the toilet" (also universally good advice).
Regardless of the method of fecal spore transmission, it seems like one should be concerned about picking up some unwanted "microbiome" from public restrooms, and not just from your family.
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All three, but not technically over weight. (20 BMI)
I don't know what that had to do with the main piece of the article. But I do think gut flora is important and I should eat more kimchi.0 -
Not fat now. But, as it happens, my gut issues (gluten allergy) were at their worst when I was fat. Before I knew I had allergies. Ditched the allergens, didn't try to replace them with equivalents...and lost the fat. I don't know if one would say that's due to the drop in bad gut bacteria, or the drop in calories when I ditched stuff. OO...and my parents are fat, always have been...grandparents too. But my honey, both my kids, and my granddaughter are all very slim.1
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Sexy Fat.
I read the article... another excuse for eating too much and moving too little.6 -
From a young age my brother and I shared a bedroom and a bathroom. He's older by 2 years. When I was 2 years old, I was heavier than he. He never tended toward overweight and has always been slim. I've always tended toward overweight and have never been slim. For this intensely personal reason, I doubt the validity of the findings in the opening posted article0
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I've been married for 23 years to a man who is chronically underweight? I on the other hand, have to count calories and exercise like a fiend if I want to maintain a healthy weight. I work for a pharmaceutical company and at one time I was working with a team trying to bring a weight loss drug to market. (The drug didn't make it to market. 9 out of 10 drugs don't make it to market.) Anyhow, when I asked the PhDs about my hubby, they said he had a genetic defect. That hypothesis made me very happy. I couldn't wait to get home and gloat about his genetic defect...that I really, really want. I take small comfort in the fact that I will outlast him in the event of global famine.
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