Low car high protein diet
stephiemota
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I was put on a low carb high protein diet, I wanted to know by maintaining both sections how I'm suppose too does the fat or sodium sections matter?? I have lost at least 5 lbs since I started this on 5/19/16. I haven't checked my current weight since last week on 5/26/16.
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Why were you put on this?2
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To lose weight that's all, I gained about 30 lbs so I decided to go on a weight loss program and this was given to me and follow.0
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Well, to be frank, it looks unnecessary and pointless and looks like it could be a VLCD. How many calories are you eating per day?3
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Well, to be frank, it looks unnecessary and pointless and looks like it could be a VLCD. How many calories are you eating per day?
Thanks for your opinion, between 900 to 1100. Since I'm only suppose to eat 45 grams of carbs and 120 for protein sometimes I reach the goal for both and I'm still left with calories. So it's a bit hard or maybe I don't know how to follow this sheet or find a better way to lose weight.0 -
Keep in mind that really high protein intake can spike your blood sugar due to excess protein being converted into glucose. In fact, 120g seems pretty ridiculously high and, unless you're very, very active, I'd consider 120g a maximum instead of a minimum. Check with your doc on this, of course, but you may want to pad out your calories with more fat than protein.2
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Looks horribly sad....Nothing wrong with potatoes, peas carrots yams or half the stuff on the list....And it is very little food - do you want to gain it all back with interest after torturing yourself for a week or two? Never eat bread again?2
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You lost me at "Forbidden."
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Well, if you are 900 calories per day of twinkies you would lose weight. This plan just restricts everything to make it a simpler task to eat low calorie. It isn't magic and frankly, you should throw it in the trash and fire whoever gave it to you.
Input your stats into MFP and follow the plan. It works.5 -
Why were you put on this?
I'm guessing this comes from a diet doctor (or someone who SELLS diets). The diets name contains "MD" in the title......but there is a reference to our Protein Fruit drinks. I'm guessing OP can buy those too.
OP (original poster)- with the long list of Forbidden foods, and access to 1 fruit only (maybe to bolster protein fruit drink sales)........doesn't sound like a formula for long term success.2 -
Looks horribly sad....Nothing wrong with potatoes, peas carrots yams or half the stuff on the list....And it is very little food - do you want to gain it all back with interest after torturing yourself for a week or two? Never eat bread again?
Lol that's what I had said, I thought veggies are good for you. Bread I can eat only wheat bread usually I will eat one slice that contains 11g carbs. So yeah I'm like almost running out of ideas of what to eat.
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I have been on this diet...well not this exact one, but very restrictive carbs and high protein. My advice? Don't do it!
I did lose a lot of weight, but honestly I felt miserable. It wasn't sustainable either...most diets that are that restrictive generally lead to binge eating, falling off the wagon hard, or gaining it all back once you are done "dieting". As many times as it's been said on MFP, changing your lifestyle is so much better. Just be more active and watch your calories. Make smarter choices in the food you eat and how you spend your spare time. That weight will come off, just at a better pace.
Now I do 100-120 g carbs a day (which is still on the lower end) and feel so much better. I have more energy and it does allow me to eat some foods I love in moderation. With more energy I am so much more active! In the end, for me, any diet that restricts healthy, natural foods like whole grains and vegetables isn't a good idea.0 -
Well, if you are 900 calories per day of twinkies you would lose weight. This plan just restricts everything to make it a simpler task to eat low calorie. It isn't magic and frankly, you should throw it in the trash and fire whoever gave it to you.
Input your stats into MFP and follow the plan. It works.
Thanks, I will ask if maybe there's other diets that are not like this one lol, I'm new to all this but may i ask what MFP is?
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stephiemota wrote: »Looks horribly sad....Nothing wrong with potatoes, peas carrots yams or half the stuff on the list....And it is very little food - do you want to gain it all back with interest after torturing yourself for a week or two? Never eat bread again?
Lol that's what I had said, I thought veggies are good for you. Bread I can eat only wheat bread usually I will eat one slice that contains 11g carbs. So yeah I'm like almost running out of ideas of what to eat.
Any diet that tells you what you can and can't eat should be disregarded. Eat a balanced diet within your energy requirements and profit.0 -
stephiemota wrote: »Well, if you are 900 calories per day of twinkies you would lose weight. This plan just restricts everything to make it a simpler task to eat low calorie. It isn't magic and frankly, you should throw it in the trash and fire whoever gave it to you.
Input your stats into MFP and follow the plan. It works.
Thanks, I will ask if maybe there's other diets that are not like this one lol, I'm new to all this but may i ask what MFP is?
MFP = MyFitnessPal. The site you are currently on.2 -
stephiemota wrote: »Well, if you are 900 calories per day of twinkies you would lose weight. This plan just restricts everything to make it a simpler task to eat low calorie. It isn't magic and frankly, you should throw it in the trash and fire whoever gave it to you.
Input your stats into MFP and follow the plan. It works.
Thanks, I will ask if maybe there's other diets that are not like this one lol, I'm new to all this but may i ask what MFP is?
My fitness pal. The website you are reading this on...0 -
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stephiemota wrote: »Looks horribly sad....Nothing wrong with potatoes, peas carrots yams or half the stuff on the list....And it is very little food - do you want to gain it all back with interest after torturing yourself for a week or two? Never eat bread again?
Lol that's what I had said, I thought veggies are good for you. Bread I can eat only wheat bread usually I will eat one slice that contains 11g carbs. So yeah I'm like almost running out of ideas of what to eat.
Eat regular food....but log your portions in MFP. This site is a great tool to learn lots of healthier long term habits. These long term habits will not only help you lose the weight, but also help you keep it off.
I'm not fat because I eat fruits that aren't apples. I'm not fat because I eat a sandwich a lunch time. I'm fat because my portions are too big. Logging food (and learning portion sizes) for things you intend to eat for years (and years) to come will help you establish healthy LIFE LONG habits.2 -
Dumb question: who prescribed you this diet? Was it a doctor, a registered dietician, or a "nutritionist"? Is there any medical reason for you to cut carbohydrates (diabetes, PCOS, etc) and have a protein intake so high (high protein diets aren't appropriate for everyone, particularly people with Parkinson's being treated with Carbidopa-levodopa or people with kidney disease)?
Honestly, it might be because I am hangry, but that diet looks like an unsustainable joke, and I would seriously be questioning anyone who prescribes you it. All that matters is that your calories consumed is less than the calories you burn each day -diets like low carb/low fat/paleo/etc only help to achieve that calorie deficit (but if you find that you're satisfied with carbs, then don't feel obligated to eat low-carb.1 -
stephiemota wrote: »Well, if you are 900 calories per day of twinkies you would lose weight. This plan just restricts everything to make it a simpler task to eat low calorie. It isn't magic and frankly, you should throw it in the trash and fire whoever gave it to you.
Input your stats into MFP and follow the plan. It works.
Thanks, I will ask if maybe there's other diets that are not like this one lol, I'm new to all this but may i ask what MFP is?
Are you paying for this plan? It's completely unnecessary to pay for a meal plan/weight loss plan. As others have said, My Fitness Pal is free and thousands of people have been successful using it.
Regardless of what meal plan or program you use, it still comes down to calories in vs. calories out. Calories are the ONLY thing that matters for weight loss/maintenance/gain. If a plan is working for you it is because it is putting your body in a calorie deficit, not because you've cut out carbs/fat/sugar/etc.
Try putting your stats into MFP and eat according to what it recommends. Eat as many nutrient dense foods as you can, but allow yourself treats as well. It's much easier to stick to a sustainable lifestyle than to try to cut out all kinds of foods that you enjoy.1 -
Personally, I've found that a low carb diet is the only way I can lose weight. However, I have type 1 diabetes (and type 2 diabetes, though that has diminished significantly as I've lost weight). Low carbs keep my blood glucose (BG) more stable. The differences to this are that I try to eat more protein (I want to get 150g / day, but that is difficult with my low calorie level) and I wouldn't be eating apples because they are not low carb.
Even if you don't have diabetes, it is unlikely that this diet will hurt you... so it is worth a try if you are interested. I would just suggest to be sure you take a multivitamin to get all of your micronutrients. And as far as "I thought vegetables were good for you" - there are salads on the list. The "vegetables" it excludes are starchy (high carb) items like beans, potatoes, and grains. You will get lots of micronutrients by eating spinach, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, and other vegetables that would normally be found in a salad with few or no net carbs.0 -
You need one gram/pound weight of your body at max.0
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It is YOUR experience, so good...But a 900-1100 cals a day eating plan for a young active girls WILL hurt her....midwesterner85 wrote: »Personally, I've found that a low carb diet is the only way I can lose weight. However, I have type 1 diabetes (and type 2 diabetes, though that has diminished significantly as I've lost weight). Low carbs keep my blood glucose (BG) more stable. The differences to this are that I try to eat more protein (I want to get 150g / day, but that is difficult with my low calorie level) and I wouldn't be eating apples because they are not low carb.
Even if you don't have diabetes, it is unlikely that this diet will hurt you... so it is worth a try if you are interested. I would just suggest to be sure you take a multivitamin to get all of your micronutrients. And as far as "I thought vegetables were good for you" - there are salads on the list. The "vegetables" it excludes are starchy (high carb) items like beans, potatoes, and grains. You will get lots of micronutrients by eating spinach, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, and other vegetables that would normally be found in a salad with few or no net carbs.
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Keep in mind that really high protein intake can spike your blood sugar due to excess protein being converted into glucose. In fact, 120g seems pretty ridiculously high and, unless you're very, very active, I'd consider 120g a maximum instead of a minimum. Check with your doc on this, of course, but you may want to pad out your calories with more fat than protein.
I would really like to see the data to support this.
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Who exactly gave you this? A doctor or someone else? I eat low carb myself so I am not the anti-LC brigade but while I eat a ton of cruciferous veg I don't personally know of many medically necessary low carb diets that will advise you to be eating fruits like apples and drinking fruit drinks
(berries in small quantities sure, but apples?) . I also don't know of any that would recommend 900 calories a day unless you're exceptionally short and I still wouldn't do it without a doctors' say so. If you haven't discussed this with an actual physician/dietician I would consider it 
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Keep in mind that really high protein intake can spike your blood sugar due to excess protein being converted into glucose. In fact, 120g seems pretty ridiculously high and, unless you're very, very active, I'd consider 120g a maximum instead of a minimum. Check with your doc on this, of course, but you may want to pad out your calories with more fat than protein.
I would really like to see the data to support this.
I don't have any studies right in front of me, but I often see a delayed protein BG spike if I consume a meal that is low-carb high-protein (I am a type 1 diabetic, so my pancreas is unable to produce any insulin whatsoever). If I am remembering biochem correctly, certain amino acids, can "convert" to pyruvate/acetyl COA/citrate/(other organic molecules in the citric acid cycle) if the body has an increased need for glucose versus amino acids. Once it's in pyruvate, it can then go through the TCA cycle to produce ATP, or it can go through gluconeogenesis to form glucose. That glucose can then increase the concentration of glucose in the blood, thus causing some of the delayed spiking diabetics may see with high-protein low-carb foods. To apply it to phase-1 phase-2 insulin release, phase-1 insulin release covers typically the rapid-acting carbs one consumes, while phase-2 insulin release often covers the slower-acting carbs and protein that goes through gluconeogenesis.
Let's say I have some chicken breast for dinner. I consume 0.5g of carbs and 50g of protein. I take zero insulin, because the meal essentially has zero carbs (my pump would be unable to deliver insulin for anything smaller than 1g of carbs). I might see the following BG pattern:
0000 (beginning of meal) - 100mg/dL
0130 - 106 mg/dL (within normal standard deviation for BG meters. Anything within 20% is considered "acceptable")
0430 - 140mg/dL
So, I experience no spiking at my typical spike time (1-1.5 hours after eating), but at the 4.5-hour mark, that is when I see a rise in BG due to gluconeogenesis occurring. If I wanted to prevent a spike like this from occurring, I would need to take some insulin to cover the protein and program my pump to deliver it as a slow infusion over 2-3 hours (to mimic phase 2 insulin release).
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Keep in mind that really high protein intake can spike your blood sugar due to excess protein being converted into glucose. In fact, 120g seems pretty ridiculously high and, unless you're very, very active, I'd consider 120g a maximum instead of a minimum. Check with your doc on this, of course, but you may want to pad out your calories with more fat than protein.
I would really like to see the data to support this.
I don't have any studies right in front of me, but I often see a delayed protein BG spike if I consume a meal that is low-carb high-protein (I am a type 1 diabetic, so my pancreas is unable to produce any insulin whatsoever). If I am remembering biochem correctly, certain amino acids, can "convert" to pyruvate/acetyl COA/citrate/(other organic molecules in the citric acid cycle) if the body has an increased need for glucose versus amino acids. Once it's in pyruvate, it can then go through the TCA cycle to produce ATP, or it can go through gluconeogenesis to form glucose. That glucose can then increase the concentration of glucose in the blood, thus causing some of the delayed spiking diabetics may see with high-protein low-carb foods.
Let's say I have some chicken breast for dinner. I consume 0.5g of carbs and 50g of protein. I take zero insulin, because the meal essentially has zero carbs (my pump would be unable to deliver insulin for anything smaller than 1g of carbs). I might see the following BG pattern:
0000 (beginning of meal) - 100mg/dL
0130 - 106 mg/dL (within normal standard deviation for BG meters. Anything within 20% is considered "acceptable")
0430 - 140mg/dL
So, I experience no spiking at my typical spike time (1-1.5 hours after eating), but at the 4.5-hour mark, that is when I see a rise in BG due to gluconeogenesis occurring.
As a fellow type 1, I experience similar results (though it usually happens in the 1.5-2.5 hr. time post-meal). When I went through my initial training after type 1 diagnosis (I've had more training on type 1 diabetes than most physicians receive), I learned about gluconeogenesis. Your description is correct - most (not all) amino acids can convert into BG. This diet is obviously designed to load up enough amino acids to repair / build muscle, but some of those amino acids can and will convert to BG.1
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