Tom Brady Diet
determined_14
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Any football nerds out there? And Brady haters?
Tom Brady is well known for being a nutrition nut: he and/or his trainer actually said this once: "Sometimes we have a treat. Like raw macaroons or avocado ice cream."
NOT a treat in my book!
But I don't think anyone can deny: the man gets results! To play football at his level, approaching 40 years old...! Aaron Rodgers is on record recently for saying that he is going to approach nutrition more like Brady because as he gets older, his 80/20 approach isn't working as well for him.
Frankly, as someone who believes that many diets can contribute to health and fitness, this annoys me. I don't WANT Mr. "Raw Macaroons" who thinks Coke is poison to get better results with his diet than Rodgers gets with an 80/20 approach. It perpetuates myths about what is healthy and necessary for peak health and fitness! Or maybe they aren't all myths...?
What do others think?
Tom Brady is well known for being a nutrition nut: he and/or his trainer actually said this once: "Sometimes we have a treat. Like raw macaroons or avocado ice cream."
NOT a treat in my book!
But I don't think anyone can deny: the man gets results! To play football at his level, approaching 40 years old...! Aaron Rodgers is on record recently for saying that he is going to approach nutrition more like Brady because as he gets older, his 80/20 approach isn't working as well for him.
Frankly, as someone who believes that many diets can contribute to health and fitness, this annoys me. I don't WANT Mr. "Raw Macaroons" who thinks Coke is poison to get better results with his diet than Rodgers gets with an 80/20 approach. It perpetuates myths about what is healthy and necessary for peak health and fitness! Or maybe they aren't all myths...?
What do others think?
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I'm torn on this and have had quite a few discussions with friends and coworkers on this subject. Full disclosure, NOT a Brady fan (I root for Panthers and Bills). I'm not a nutrition expert or an elite athlete, so I don't need to approach nutrition like one. I do think there's some benefit to excluding all artificial ingredients and eating a limited diet, but also some psychological benefits as well. I'll stick with my 80/20 "everything in moderation" approach7
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determined_14 wrote: »Any football nerds out there? And Brady haters?
Tom Brady is well known for being a nutrition nut: he and/or his trainer actually said this once: "Sometimes we have a treat. Like raw macaroons or avocado ice cream."
NOT a treat in my book!
But I don't think anyone can deny: the man gets results! To play football at his level, approaching 40 years old...! Aaron Rodgers is on record recently for saying that he is going to approach nutrition more like Brady because as he gets older, his 80/20 approach isn't working as well for him.
Frankly, as someone who believes that many diets can contribute to health and fitness, this annoys me. I don't WANT Mr. "Raw Macaroons" who thinks Coke is poison to get better results with his diet than Rodgers gets with an 80/20 approach. It perpetuates myths about what is healthy and necessary for peak health and fitness! Or maybe they aren't all myths...?
What do others think?
Have you ever had a raw macaroon or avocado ice cream?
Raw macaroons are pure sugar and fat. They're incredibly delicious and I indulge in them when I have the calories. Not because I'm all about "health" but because I like delicious stuff (yes, I also eat more normal cookies). Same with avocado ice cream. They're treats.
I don't agree with Brady that soda is poison, but I see no need to disparage his food. Some of it sounds quite tasty.1 -
I love that there are other people in the world that talk about this!
I've been doing some digging into the specifics of Brady's diet, and it looks like he eats mostly good, nutritious food (80% plants, lean proteins, limits low-nutrient food ("junk food"), but as with many functional diets, the myths mixed in contribute unnecessary confusion and restriction (no nightshades?!, fruit has too much sugar in it, pink salt is better than while salt, etc.)
Hopefully Rodgers can take the good parts and dispense with the crazy. (Not like I care about his results-- I'm a Detroit fan! )0 -
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I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.5 -
You have to remember that Tom Brady gets paid millions of dollars to perform a the level he does. Thus the amount of dedication to a certain diet and exercise routine must continue in order to maintain that. He also does not drink alcohol and I'm sure he follows a strict sleep regime and likely uses things like cryo-recovery and other stuff you and I could never afford.
If you want to emulate his diet and perform at your absolute peak gene expression then sure, no harm in doing that. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with being normal healthy, it's just a choice one makes. I do not think there is a need for the average person to do what Tom Brady does, but I will say this...the better quality food you eat consistently, the better you will perform and feel. Whether that's being a professional athlete or a regular mom, dad, brother, sister, etc it will make a difference. It just depends on where you want to land on the spectrum.7 -
I am from MA... huge Patriots fan, love Tom Brady. That said, I go cross-eyed with his pretentiousness sometimes. He's married to a supermodel, has a 2 yr contract valued at 41mil, has access to the best doctors & trainers, & probably has a chef cooking up the recipes in his over-priced cookbook.... He might as well have found the Fountain of Youth. I totally agree that nutrition plays a vital part in your health... But I can't say I'll be googling recipes for raw macaroons anytime soon7
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If it works for him, then great! You can't deny he gets results. The guy is in great shape for an athlete his age. When your body is your job, you do whatever is necessary to maintain that.4
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melissa6771 wrote: »I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.
It kind of makes sense about the nightshades as they can contribute to joint degeneration. Mostly this is only something people sensitive to nightshades need worry about, but again, Tom Brady is trying to cheat the clock and continue to play professional football as long as he can so any edge he can get is worth it.
One other thing I would like to say as someone who was raw vegan for a while (and stopped because it WAS indeed too restrictive for me) raw macaroons and avocado ice cream are actually super yummy! I wish I could afford to have someone make that stuff for me as a treat!0 -
1) Dammit, I want a macaroon now.
2) I've known people who legitimately avoid nightshades, though I don't know how much is woo science and how much is real. Personally I would cut you if you took away tomatoes.
3) This sounds less terrifyingly fishy than The Rock diet...1 -
KombuchaKat wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.
It kind of makes sense about the nightshades as they can contribute to joint degeneration. Mostly this is only something people sensitive to nightshades need worry about, but again, Tom Brady is trying to cheat the clock and continue to play professional football as long as he can so any edge he can get is worth it.
One other thing I would like to say as someone who was raw vegan for a while (and stopped because it WAS indeed too restrictive for me) raw macaroons and avocado ice cream are actually super yummy! I wish I could afford to have someone make that stuff for me as a treat!
They sell raw macaroons at my Whole Foods, but I don't buy them often because they're so calorie-dense and I find it hard to not eat the whole package at once! Hail Merry makes a salted caramel version that is incredible.0 -
The "nutritionist" that he and Gisele use is actually just a personal chef with an online certificate in plant-based diets and a lot of the things he says are unscientific and unproven nonsense. He's the type who believes that organic plant-based diets can reverse diseases and other silliness. Clearly Tom Brady's diet works for him, but I would by no means take it as holy grail advice. There is zero scientific evidence for most of the claims his chef makes and a lot of the items excluded in the diet just don't make any sense. He doesn't eat mushrooms, nightshade vegetables, tomatoes, coffee, dairy, any oil except coconut, gluten, or fruit. I couldn't function without coffee, olive oil and peppers (I need spice!) so his diet plan would never be an option for me personally.9
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determined_14 wrote: »I love that there are other people in the world that talk about this!
I've been doing some digging into the specifics of Brady's diet, and it looks like he eats mostly good, nutritious food (80% plants, lean proteins, limits low-nutrient food ("junk food"), but as with many functional diets, the myths mixed in contribute unnecessary confusion and restriction (no nightshades?!, fruit has too much sugar in it, pink salt is better than while salt, etc.)
Hopefully Rodgers can take the good parts and dispense with the crazy. (Not like I care about his results-- I'm a Detroit fan! )
LOL, I actually agree about the pink salt. Any raw salt is better than the processed, stripped of all nutrients salt that is normally used. Also the iodine in idodized salt is synthetic so the body does not use it very efficiently, could be a reason so many of us are having thyroid issues...1 -
Anyone have a raw macaroon recipe they like?0
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janejellyroll wrote: »KombuchaKat wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.
It kind of makes sense about the nightshades as they can contribute to joint degeneration. Mostly this is only something people sensitive to nightshades need worry about, but again, Tom Brady is trying to cheat the clock and continue to play professional football as long as he can so any edge he can get is worth it.
One other thing I would like to say as someone who was raw vegan for a while (and stopped because it WAS indeed too restrictive for me) raw macaroons and avocado ice cream are actually super yummy! I wish I could afford to have someone make that stuff for me as a treat!
They sell raw macaroons at my Whole Foods, but I don't buy them often because they're so calorie-dense and I find it hard to not eat the whole package at once! Hail Merry makes a salted caramel version that is incredible.
OMG that Hail Merry stuff is SO good! The raw meyer lemon tart is to die for!1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Anyone have a raw macaroon recipe they like?
Check out the cookbook "Raw Food, Real World."0 -
melissa6771 wrote: »I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.
I don't eat eggplant because I think it's disgusting.2 -
The "nutritionist" that he and Gisele use is actually just a personal chef with an online certificate in plant-based diets and a lot of the things he says are unscientific and unproven nonsense. He's the type who believes that organic plant-based diets can reverse diseases and other silliness. Clearly Tom Brady's diet works for him, but I would by no means take it as holy grail advice. There is zero scientific evidence for most of the claims his chef makes and a lot of the items excluded in the diet just don't make any sense. He doesn't eat mushrooms, nightshade vegetables, tomatoes, coffee, dairy, any oil except coconut, gluten, or fruit. I couldn't function without coffee, olive oil and peppers (I need spice!) so his diet plan would never be an option for me personally.
Strong first post.
Brady has the results he does because he trains like a professional athlete. It's that simple.8 -
its their job to have those bodies. my job requires me to take classes from time to time to keep up with changing software. i wouldn't expect tom brady to take my class to stay abreast of technology.3
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janejellyroll wrote: »KombuchaKat wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.
It kind of makes sense about the nightshades as they can contribute to joint degeneration. Mostly this is only something people sensitive to nightshades need worry about, but again, Tom Brady is trying to cheat the clock and continue to play professional football as long as he can so any edge he can get is worth it.
One other thing I would like to say as someone who was raw vegan for a while (and stopped because it WAS indeed too restrictive for me) raw macaroons and avocado ice cream are actually super yummy! I wish I could afford to have someone make that stuff for me as a treat!
They sell raw macaroons at my Whole Foods, but I don't buy them often because they're so calorie-dense and I find it hard to not eat the whole package at once! Hail Merry makes a salted caramel version that is incredible.
Can I just say I freaking love that you worked a "Hail Mary" (or merry) into this conversation?!2 -
KombuchaKat wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.
It kind of makes sense about the nightshades as they can contribute to joint degeneration. Mostly this is only something people sensitive to nightshades need worry about, but again, Tom Brady is trying to cheat the clock and continue to play professional football as long as he can so any edge he can get is worth it.
One other thing I would like to say as someone who was raw vegan for a while (and stopped because it WAS indeed too restrictive for me) raw macaroons and avocado ice cream are actually super yummy! I wish I could afford to have someone make that stuff for me as a treat!
Do you have a source for the joint degeneration thing? I'd never heard of that.
I do know somehow who is allergic (or some such sensitivity) to nightshades and breaks out in a rash/itchiness every time she is exposed. She still sometimes eats them anyway because it's hard to go without forever.
I'm not denying that raw macaroons and avocado ice cream may be yummy-- it just strikes me as odd that they are considered, apparently, "better" treats than just eating a cookie or a scoop of ice cream once in awhile.1 -
http://www.bornfitness.com/flawed-the-tom-brady-and-giselle-bundchen-diet/
This is a pretty solid analysis of the strengths versus woo of Brady's nutritional approach.0 -
Even if he follows this diet he will still die from something. These celebrities and their crazy diets (Gwyneth Paltrow takes the cake) are what is wrong with this country. We look to people who have no formal education and only reiterate what their macrobiotic "nutritional counselor" told them who also probably does not have any formal education on the matter and only relies on results from people who tried their "diet" for the basis of all of their info. We bow down to the all knowing all powerful Dr. Oz as the health guru, however he is just bought and paid for by his sponsors. Here is the secret to weight loss: Follow the 80/20 rule. Eat everything in moderation. Exercise. Ignore celebrities.6
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Don't care for him or his spouse.
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I live in Massachusetts, so I'm a Patriots fan. However, I can not stand Tom Brady. He's arrogant and egotistical in my opinion. That being said, I do have this to say: his diet sounds a little whacky and new agey, but it's all about what works for you. If a raw food diet is sustainable and gets you results, then by all means, go for it. I always thought clean eating was a bunch of malarkey, but here I am, 20 pounds lighter, and I actually look forward to the meals I cook.1
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The "nutritionist" that he and Gisele use is actually just a personal chef with an online certificate in plant-based diets and a lot of the things he says are unscientific and unproven nonsense. He's the type who believes that organic plant-based diets can reverse diseases and other silliness. Clearly Tom Brady's diet works for him, but I would by no means take it as holy grail advice. There is zero scientific evidence for most of the claims his chef makes and a lot of the items excluded in the diet just don't make any sense. He doesn't eat mushrooms, nightshade vegetables, tomatoes, coffee, dairy, any oil except coconut, gluten, or fruit. I couldn't function without coffee, olive oil and peppers (I need spice!) so his diet plan would never be an option for me personally.
Totally. SciBabe wrote a great article about it for Cosmo:
cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/news/a51998/all-of-the-reasons-why-tom-and-giseles-diet-is-actually-the-worst-revealed/
I'm a Pats fan and Brady fan (although Gronk has surpassed him as my fave player), but I agree with you OP - celebrities touting ridiculous "nutrition" rules just adds to the pile of BS people need to wade through to get to the truth.2 -
determined_14 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »KombuchaKat wrote: »melissa6771 wrote: »I am a huge Pats fan! Season ticket holder for 24 years!
On another note, I think his diet is a bit over the top! He doesn't even eat eggplant because it's a shade vegetable. There is probably some merit to most of it. Most people could never stick to how they eat, it is far too restrictive. On the other hand, they both make a crap ton of money with their bodies, one modeling, one an elite athlete, so for them they probably feel it is necessary. I wonder if they will stick to it until they die? And if their kids will eat like that when they are grown.
It kind of makes sense about the nightshades as they can contribute to joint degeneration. Mostly this is only something people sensitive to nightshades need worry about, but again, Tom Brady is trying to cheat the clock and continue to play professional football as long as he can so any edge he can get is worth it.
One other thing I would like to say as someone who was raw vegan for a while (and stopped because it WAS indeed too restrictive for me) raw macaroons and avocado ice cream are actually super yummy! I wish I could afford to have someone make that stuff for me as a treat!
They sell raw macaroons at my Whole Foods, but I don't buy them often because they're so calorie-dense and I find it hard to not eat the whole package at once! Hail Merry makes a salted caramel version that is incredible.
Can I just say I freaking love that you worked a "Hail Mary" (or merry) into this conversation?!
Wow, I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out!1 -
Brady's diet may be a bit over the top, but I think if you check, most athletes "clean up" their diet as they age with the thought of performing at a high level longer.
All for it if it keeps Aaron going longer.1 -
I live in Massachusetts, so I'm a Patriots fan. However, I can not stand Tom Brady. He's arrogant and egotistical in my opinion. That being said, I do have this to say: his diet sounds a little whacky and new agey, but it's all about what works for you. If a raw food diet is sustainable and gets you results, then by all means, go for it. I always thought clean eating was a bunch of malarkey, but here I am, 20 pounds lighter, and I actually look forward to the meals I cook.
Obviously people can eat whatever they want but the problem lies in well-known figures like Tom Brady tout their diets as being nutritionally and scientifically sound when they are not. His diet goes far beyond clean-eating and a lot of the claims just aren't true. There's a whole body of evidence that olive oil is very healthy and is a staple of many healthy diets but Tom's online-certified chef refuses to use it. Same for many of the veggies and fruits they restrict which are perfectly healthy for a majority of the world's population. He also doesn't use MSG for bogus reasons and MSG laden foods are a staple of traditional Japanese and other Asian diets which are considered to be extremely healthy and contribute to long and healthy lives etc etc. The list of the inaccuracies could go on and on.5 -
I live in Massachusetts, so I'm a Patriots fan. However, I can not stand Tom Brady. He's arrogant and egotistical in my opinion. That being said, I do have this to say: his diet sounds a little whacky and new agey, but it's all about what works for you. If a raw food diet is sustainable and gets you results, then by all means, go for it. I always thought clean eating was a bunch of malarkey, but here I am, 20 pounds lighter, and I actually look forward to the meals I cook.
Obviously people can eat whatever they want but the problem lies in well-known figures like Tom Brady tout their diets as being nutritionally and scientifically sound when they are not. His diet goes far beyond clean-eating and a lot of the claims just aren't true. There's a whole body of evidence that olive oil is very healthy and is a staple of many healthy diets but Tom's online-certified chef refuses to use it. Same for many of the veggies and fruits they restrict which are perfectly healthy for a majority of the world's population. He also doesn't use MSG for bogus reasons and MSG laden foods are a staple of traditional Japanese and other Asian diets which are considered to be extremely healthy and contribute to long and healthy lives etc etc. The list of the inaccuracies could go on and on.
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