Recent article on myfitnesspal

Did anyone else read the article about feeling weight loss is hopeless? I am particularly wondering about the part that says you will sabotage weight loss by counting your exercise calories toward your daily allotted calories. Anyone have any comments on this? I am at a 16 pound loss and have 95 pounds to go for goal so I need the best advice.
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  • I just do rough counts of my calories and ensure that I'm around 200-300 under my recommended. Like ElJefePerron, I don't really count exercise unless its a day hike or a golfing trip. If I had to get a scale and calculator each time, I'd go crazy.

    I think it's BS to think that calorie-counting is 'sabotage.' In fact, it clarified to me which foods were contributing most to my weight.

    Congrats on the weight loss. You clearly are doing something right.
  • catsdogsh
    catsdogsh Posts: 130 Member
    I never count my exercise calories because I don't trust the measurement of calories burned
  • LessthanKris
    LessthanKris Posts: 607 Member
    When I started, I ate all my exercise calories back and it worked out perfectly fine. Lost 30 lbs with no weighing anything and eating all my calories back. For me, MFP already had me at 1200 so I felt like I would not sustain by not eating them back.

    I still eat them back but I have a harder time not going over this last year and I work out six days a week. I gained about 10 lbs the last half of the year due to various "excuses" and have been maintaining so far this year but I know why. When I just eat my exercise calories back I lose but like I said, I have been over. I try not eat my Fitbit calories back though so maybe since I usually get my 10k steps in and my profile is set to lightly active it has made up the difference when I do lose.
  • raindawg
    raindawg Posts: 348 Member
    I eat my exercise calories back and still consistently hit my weekly weight loss goal. I realize I may be in the minority though.
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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,163 Member
    I've eaten back my exercise calories (most or all of them) while losing 60+ pounds April 2015-March 2016, and while maintaining at around 120 pounds since then.

    I do estimate exercise calories conservatively (heart rate monitor, comparison with MFP & other, more multi-variable exercise calculators, then pick the low end).

    I'm pretty active, and if I cut calories too far (which happened briefly during weight loss), I get fatigued. But I'm old (60), plus hypothyroid, so those may be why it hits me harder if I get too deep a deficit.
  • jkal1979
    jkal1979 Posts: 1,896 Member
    OP do you have a link to this article?
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    The only reason I got a fitbit is so I could better estimate my calories out and know how many to eat back. I am pretty sure it overestimates, so I don't eat all of them back.
  • ElizabethOakes2
    ElizabethOakes2 Posts: 1,038 Member
    I eat back half my exercise calories, and have lost weight steadily since I started really tracking my intake/output. *shrug* And if I've done serious cardio that day? I NEED those calories or I end up with the hangries.
  • fr33sia12
    fr33sia12 Posts: 1,258 Member
    I don't usually eat my exercise calories back, unless I burn 400-500 cals then I might eat an extra 100 or so. I'll only eat some of them back if I'm hungry knowing I have some extra calories. I've found this has been working for me personally.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,593 Member
    I count my exercise calories ... but low, of course. I know that most calorie counters overestimate the number of calories burned while exercising so I choose slow speeds and light workouts even if I actually put in quite a bit of effort.

    When I was actively losing weight, I ate about 50% of my exercise calories back.

    Now that I've lost 25 kg (55 lbs), and I'm closer to maintenance, I eat about 80-90% of my exercise calories back.

    Works for me. :)
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    I don't feel this is an issue for me. I count and eat back my exercise calories without problems. I'm reasonable of course, I don't expect to rack up 500 calories in 30 minutes of "cleaning", but things like walking and running are pretty predictable and consistent calorie-wise.

    I also don't see an issue with the "exercise to eat more" mentality if you understand what reasonable burns look like and don't have an eating disorder. This whole "exercise for this purpose and nothing else" doesn't gel with me. People should be free to exercise for whatever reason they want and shouldn't feel ashamed if they secretly have "inferior" reasons like calorie burns or looks. Those extra 2-300 calories can enhance a meal in great ways or allow for an extra snack that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    I eat all my exercise calories back whether losing or maintaining and my weight follows suit - that's roughly 3500 in winter and sometimes 7000+ a week in summer.

    It's not a flawed method, the flaw is in how people apply the method.

    For most people, even a high exerciser like me, the accuracy focus is better spent on your food intake which has a far greater impact.
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    I'm in maintenance and I count calories and enjoy eating and drinking every single one of my exercise calories back. I didn't eat all of mine back when losing but that wasn't because of inaccuracy, that was because I wanted to lose faster and didn't feel like I needed to feed my body more than what it was asking for.
  • Seffell
    Seffell Posts: 2,244 Member
    I eat 100% of my pedometer calories and lose at the rate I expect to.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    I have a fitbit and eat back between 50 and 75% of those 'earned' calories. The wiggle room I leave is to give me a bit of a buffer in case my food logging or the calories burned is a bit inaccurate. The closer you get to goal weight, the more critical remaining in a predetermined calorie deficit becomes. I lost 75 lbs this way. :)
  • 143tobe
    143tobe Posts: 620 Member
    I log the calories burned according to my heart rate monitor, and usually eat back about 80% of them. I also lose at the rate I expect to. I would not be able to sustain a diet that did now allow me to eat a reasonable amount of calories every day, and eating back my work-out calories allows me that.
  • lun4wub
    lun4wub Posts: 25 Member
    Like some other people said the real issue is that people will eat back the exercise calories. Where as you should use exercise to build muscle so you will burn more calories, and do cardio to burn fat. But a lot of people will see the number of calories they burned and say OK now I can eat all of this extra food. And that's the problem.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    lun4wub wrote: »
    Like some other people said the real issue is that people will eat back the exercise calories. Where as you should use exercise to build muscle so you will burn more calories, and do cardio to burn fat. But a lot of people will see the number of calories they burned and say OK now I can eat all of this extra food. And that's the problem.

    That's not a problem, that's how this app was designed. I think the MFP method is a bit confusing to people because they can do it in one of two ways: include exercise in their activity level and not eat them back or set their activity level to sedentary and eat back the extra food. Several people in this thread have seen success with the second method. In some cases it's actually dangerous not to eat that extra food, especially if the person is at a low allowance and is exercising to boot.
  • MonkeyMel21
    MonkeyMel21 Posts: 2,396 Member
    I don't weigh any of my food, I just guess and use the generic entries or scan my packages. I don't have a lot to lose so I have it set to lose .5 lbs per week so I don't have much room for mistakes. I've found that when I eat back my exercise calories I am less successful, leaving less room for food logging mistakes. I feel more deprived on the days that I don't work out and I'll go out of my way to get more calories, like walking for 20-30 minutes just to burn 100 calories so I can have a piece of chocolate. Mentally, for me, it's counterproductive. But if you actually log your calories correctly and are working out "hard", it's going to be more productive to fuel your body properly for your work outs by eating some of those calories back.
  • b3achy
    b3achy Posts: 2,142 Member
    edited June 2016
    I have to say the article itself was pretty hopeless, and left out a good portion of the story on both studies, and it didn't really offer much hope in the way of proper suggestions for weight loss. Was highly disappointed in the article quite frankly, and have to agree with an early poster that many of the MFP blog articles are a bit less than stellar to me also. (Take everything with a grain of salt, especially advice in forum threads!! Do your own research rather than just asking for 'opinions'.)

    I have to agree with those that are saying that it is okay to eat back your exercise calories because that's not the problem. The problem is that most people way over estimate their activity and way under estimate how much they are eating. If you want to succeed in losing weight, you might want to reverse that. Over estimate your calories you eat if you can't measure accurately, like at a restaurant (otherwise measure, measure, measure), and under estimate your activity level (like don't count every little step you make to get up from the couch to go to the bathroom or check the mail, or the calories burned from 'driving in traffic', but include all your real exercise like going on a directed walk for 30-60 minutes or going for a run or a bike ride - all that stuff above and beyond 'normal activity' for you). While many have figured out how to use them properly, I really think those with fitbits that are counting every little body shift as calorie burners are doing themselves a disservice and fooling themselves (well, until they look at the scale).

    If I had an article to recommend (even though the video mentioned in the article is no longer available), it'd be this one that I saw posted on the boards earlier this week about being brutally honest with yourself - http://www.bodyforwife.com/the-most-important-thing-you-can-do-to-lose-weight/
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,593 Member
    lun4wub wrote: »
    Like some other people said the real issue is that people will eat back the exercise calories. Where as you should use exercise to build muscle so you will burn more calories, and do cardio to burn fat. But a lot of people will see the number of calories they burned and say OK now I can eat all of this extra food. And that's the problem.

    Not a problem for me! :)

    In fact it is a benefit of exercise ... because I exercised a lot today, I ate pizza. :grin:
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    lun4wub wrote: »
    Like some other people said the real issue is that people will eat back the exercise calories. Where as you should use exercise to build muscle so you will burn more calories, and do cardio to burn fat. But a lot of people will see the number of calories they burned and say OK now I can eat all of this extra food. And that's the problem.

    @lun4wub
    Sorry but's that's not correct.

    Eating back the correct amount of exercise calories isn't the problem, it's how this site is designed - when you get to maintenance you will have to!

    Building muscle to burn more calories is very close to being a myth, apart from the difficulty in building muscle at a deficit the very, very few extra calories burned by having a few more pounds of muscle are more than offset by the reduced energy demands from losing weight.

    Cardio doesn't "burn fat" as such - it burns calories but losing fat is a result of your deficit and not any particular exercise. You can do a load of cardio and more than offset that by eating too much.

    Eating the incorrect amount of calories certainly can be a problem, that's where some effort is required to make estimates "reasonable" and adjust calorie balance based on results not just calculators and estimates of both food and exercise calories.