My Big Fat Fabulous Life
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VintageFeline wrote: »I don't watch it, not even sure we get it here and if we do we're probably behind. I have seen a few clips on holiday though. Didn't she once lose 100lbs? Thus proving she is perfectly capable of losing weight she's just not in a place where can/wants to right now.
She did and reportedly developed bulimia in the process. I've never watched the show but it sounds like the people saying she's afraid of the process might be right on. I also wonder how heavily the show is edited to send whatever message the producers find convenient to push. It sounds like the haes controversy creates a lot of ratings for them.4 -
I actually just watched an episode randomly. I've never seen it before. It was the episode shortly after she passed out because of her heart.
She was talking about how she can do anything that "normal" people can do.
She then went skiing. When she stood up, she almost immediately collapsed in pain and screaming. Her friends couldn't even pick her up.
the medics had to come.
I'm sorry, but it was hard to watch.6 -
If the penny doesn't drop for her soon, it will be dropped for her, I fear.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »She makes me sad the same way I see the morbidly obese lass in my office claim to be happy about her size when I can see the pain she is in moving and how she has to drag herself up a flight of stairs with the handrail and how she has to sit before she passes out becasr she's stood up for too long.
You don't need to be sad for them. If they say they are happy they probably are. When you have been obese your entire life it feels like the norm and whatever inconveniences they have probably feel like minor annoyances. You need to have been a happy morbidly obese person to understand. I was one. Life was great. So what if stairs made me feel like my lungs were almost literally going to explode? A minor discomfort that lasts a couple of minutes. Sure beats the chronic achilles tendinitis I developed trying to get fit. It feels like more of an obstacle in the way of something I like to do (running) than obesity ever was.
I have never seen the show because I don't do reality TV (too much drama for my taste) so I can't provide a real opinion about it. All I know is that if she is promoting being morbidly obese as healthy or blaming it on a certain disease she is dead wrong. My negative judgement stops there though. I don't believe what she is promoting would have any real impact because it feels more like preaching to the choir. Many obese people often want to lose weight for various reasons, and those who would gravitate towards her opinion often weren't planning to lose weight anyway. I sure as heck don't see a normal weight person listening to her then deliberately getting fat.
I typically don't do reality to either, but this show caught my attention.I watched some of season 1. When it became apparent that it wasn't going to be a feel good "she beat it" kind of story, I had a hard time watching.
She seems to be willing to make changes in season 2 (or 3?). I'm sure weight loss, and the identity association with the show (fat and fabulous), makes long term weight loss even more difficult.
I wish her all the best.
And yes, Babs is awesome!
I also thought this was going to be an "I beat it" show and that's why it caught my attention but I see that is not the case.1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »If the penny doesn't drop for her soon, it will be dropped for her, I fear.
I think when you are fat and young, you have the advantage of having a young body that can more easily cope with being obese. It hasn't had a lifetime yet to be wore out. However, carrying around that kind of weight does wear out your body much faster than normal. Hard on your joints and your heart and your liver. Eventually, things start to fail. She is starting to go through that failure now at an abnormally young age. She needs to wake up and grow up and take some responsibility for her life and health before the choice is taken from her by disability and death.5 -
RosieRose7673 wrote: »I actually just watched an episode randomly. I've never seen it before. It was the episode shortly after she passed out because of her heart.
She was talking about how she can do anything that "normal" people can do.
She then went skiing. When she stood up, she almost immediately collapsed in pain and screaming. Her friends couldn't even pick her up. the medics had to come.
I'm sorry, but it was hard to watch.
I'm a horrible person for saying this, but the ski video actually had me laughing really hard. Not because she was overweight and In pain, rather just the way she was falling. I used to do ski patrol when I was in college and I can't even begin to count all the times I have seen people do that. My co-workers and I would occasionally laugh because of it.1 -
I love the show.
I love the show because she serves as a stark reminder of what I do NOT want to become. Like her, I have PCOS. Unlike her, I have one ovary. Like her, I have some weight to lose. Unlike her, I take care of my body. I exercise and I am careful what I eat. I've dropped 85 pounds, even with my untreated PCOS.
PCOS does not make weight loss impossible. It is surely harder than it may be for someone with no chronic medical conditions inhibiting weight loss, but it is NOT impossible. To spout off the excuse that PCOS is the reason for your fatness, and then consume an entire pizza, or marshmallow sandwiches, is to be completely and utterly in denial. Then, she launches a "no body shame" campaign. I don't think we should be shaming one another for our bodies, no matter how big or how small they may be. But I can't help but wonder how you can watch yourself literally killing yourself and not feel ashamed at the physical manifestation of what must clearly be some deep self hatred.
I've been 300+, and I was disgusted with what I'd done to myself. I don't see how you can feel no shame, and have any hope of turning your life around from the "I like being fat" point. It's really sad.27 -
This! Who is she "helping" by coming home from the hospital with a possible heart issue, asking her bubba to bring her a pizza? She is now a mockery and it's sending a false message to those who may watch her and think.... "Its fine, she is obese and famous..."Panda_Poptarts wrote: »I love the show.
I love the show because she serves as a stark reminder of what I do NOT want to become. Like her, I have PCOS. Unlike her, I have one ovary. Like her, I have some weight to lose. Unlike her, I take care of my body. I exercise and I am careful what I eat. I've dropped 85 pounds, even with my untreated PCOS.
PCOS does not make weight loss impossible. It is surely harder than it may be for someone with no chronic medical conditions inhibiting weight loss, but it is NOT impossible. To spout off the excuse that PCOS is the reason for your fatness, and then consume an entire pizza, or marshmallow sandwiches, is to be completely and utterly in denial. Then, she launches a "no body shame" campaign. I don't think we should be shaming one another for our bodies, no matter how big or how small they may be. But I can't help but wonder how you can watch yourself literally killing yourself and not feel ashamed at the physical manifestation of what must clearly be some deep self hatred.
I've been 300+, and I was disgusted with what I'd done to myself. I don't see how you can feel no shame, and have any hope of turning your life around from the "I like being fat" point. It's really sad.
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I've seen a few random episodes of this show in the past.. I actually have a different take on it although most of you will disagree with me. Here are some stats: "In the USA more than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese. More than 1 in 20 (6.3 percent) have extreme obesity." I think in some way Whitney gives hope to many people (primarily women) who are very heavy and yet unwilling/mentally unable to make the sacrifice of sticking to a strict diet... Yes, many people just don't have the willpower to make the necessary changes. And you know what? It's their lives, their bodies. They wake up every morning and need to go on with their day. They still need to find a way to feel okay and live. She is "proving" that you can live, dance, laugh, have a relationship, do various activities - and be a larger size. And it's okay. Some people will Never find the willpower to go from being obese to being normal weight. It's their choice. For instance, in one of the episodes Whitney organized a bunch of mostly heavily overweight women into a dance group. They got together to practice dance routines and then did a performance in front of a large group of people.. I thought this was wonderful. I do feel that she is making a positive contribution in her own way.9
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I've seen a few random episodes of this show in the past.. I actually have a different take on it although most of you will disagree with me. Here are some stats: "In the USA more than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese. More than 1 in 20 (6.3 percent) have extreme obesity." I think in some way Whitney gives hope to many people (primarily women) who are very heavy and yet unwilling/mentally unable to make the sacrifice of sticking to a strict diet... Yes, many people just don't have the willpower to make the necessary changes. And you know what? It's their lives, their bodies. They wake up every morning and need to go on with their day. They still need to find a way to feel okay and live. She is "proving" that you can live, dance, laugh, have a relationship, do various activities - and be a larger size. And it's okay. Some people will Never find the willpower to go from being obese to being normal weight. It's their choice. For instance, in one of the episodes Whitney organized a bunch of mostly heavily overweight women into a dance group. They got together to practice dance routines and then did a performance in front of a large group of people.. I thought this was wonderful. I do feel that she is making a positive contribution in her own way.
If it's their choice, and they're entitled to it, why would they need a tv show to justify it?1 -
I watched it one time. She has psychological issues that are destructive and attention seeking. Quite sad actually. Such a shallow existence.5
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PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »I've seen a few random episodes of this show in the past.. I actually have a different take on it although most of you will disagree with me. Here are some stats: "In the USA more than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese. More than 1 in 20 (6.3 percent) have extreme obesity." I think in some way Whitney gives hope to many people (primarily women) who are very heavy and yet unwilling/mentally unable to make the sacrifice of sticking to a strict diet... Yes, many people just don't have the willpower to make the necessary changes. And you know what? It's their lives, their bodies. They wake up every morning and need to go on with their day. They still need to find a way to feel okay and live. She is "proving" that you can live, dance, laugh, have a relationship, do various activities - and be a larger size. And it's okay. Some people will Never find the willpower to go from being obese to being normal weight. It's their choice. For instance, in one of the episodes Whitney organized a bunch of mostly heavily overweight women into a dance group. They got together to practice dance routines and then did a performance in front of a large group of people.. I thought this was wonderful. I do feel that she is making a positive contribution in her own way.
If it's their choice, and they're entitled to it, why would they need a tv show to justify it?
They don't. They need a TV show to profit from it like any other controversy.4 -
I've seen a few random episodes of this show in the past.. I actually have a different take on it although most of you will disagree with me. Here are some stats: "In the USA more than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese. More than 1 in 20 (6.3 percent) have extreme obesity." I think in some way Whitney gives hope to many people (primarily women) who are very heavy and yet unwilling/mentally unable to make the sacrifice of sticking to a strict diet... Yes, many people just don't have the willpower to make the necessary changes. And you know what? It's their lives, their bodies. They wake up every morning and need to go on with their day. They still need to find a way to feel okay and live. She is "proving" that you can live, dance, laugh, have a relationship, do various activities - and be a larger size. And it's okay. Some people will Never find the willpower to go from being obese to being normal weight. It's their choice. For instance, in one of the episodes Whitney organized a bunch of mostly heavily overweight women into a dance group. They got together to practice dance routines and then did a performance in front of a large group of people.. I thought this was wonderful. I do feel that she is making a positive contribution in her own way.
Her health is suffering and the cause is being glorified on a reality show. Why not a reality show glorifying crack?6 -
I've seen a few random episodes of this show in the past.. I actually have a different take on it although most of you will disagree with me. Here are some stats: "In the USA more than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese. More than 1 in 20 (6.3 percent) have extreme obesity." I think in some way Whitney gives hope to many people (primarily women) who are very heavy and yet unwilling/mentally unable to make the sacrifice of sticking to a strict diet... Yes, many people just don't have the willpower to make the necessary changes. And you know what? It's their lives, their bodies. They wake up every morning and need to go on with their day. They still need to find a way to feel okay and live. She is "proving" that you can live, dance, laugh, have a relationship, do various activities - and be a larger size. And it's okay. Some people will Never find the willpower to go from being obese to being normal weight. It's their choice. For instance, in one of the episodes Whitney organized a bunch of mostly heavily overweight women into a dance group. They got together to practice dance routines and then did a performance in front of a large group of people.. I thought this was wonderful. I do feel that she is making a positive contribution in her own way.
But it isn't really "okay" and "their choice" as the US heads into some level of socialized medicine. Every healthcare dollar that is spent investing in hospital beds for the morbidly obese or wide-bore MRIs is money diverted from treating childhood cancers or <insert your pet cause disease here>.14 -
She didn't get diagnose with PCOS until after 21 and gaining 200lbs. PCOS wasn't the reason she gained the initial weight.
And there is no one in the medical profession that will agree that someone who's morbidly obese, can lead a healthy life staying that weight.
Can she change? Of course, but that doesn't seem to be what she wants to do currently.
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Pretty sure banana mayo sandwiches and eating a whole box of pizza regularly is what caused her to gain weight, not PCOS like you said.
And hey, look at Jillian Michaels. She has PCOS and looks great.9 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »80 lbs ago, I was fat and ok (not "happy," but ok) and technically in good health, but I was in pain and had no quality of life. That has to factor into the "health" equation, and if your favorite activity makes you pass out because of your weight, that's no quality of life.
True and everyone deserves to be happy. I had no health problems when I was morbidly obese, but staying at that weight will lead to health problems eventually.
Sorry but your threads confusing the hell out of me. If you yourself had no health issues when you were morbidly obese, why do you take issue with someone in the same scenario saying the same thing? Thin people won't be healthy forever either? Oh and even at a normal weight, due to the physical activity I choose, I sometimes have trouble walking up stairs and look like an old lady. Last night, I was indeed panicking that something was wrong, likely because I misguidedly completed a workout beside someone who'd clearly drenched themself in a cigarette prior and aggravated my asthma. Arghhhhh. And now I'm going off topic just like your post
No, I wouldn't recommend morbid obesity, but if the lady's fine with it, I'm not getting the "she must be oh so delusional" comments.
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I have pcos, and i can tell you for me the symptoms of it dissappear when my weight is closer to normal. I went ftom 220 to 156 and hot pregnant like the week i was in a healthy range. Gained 80 with that pregnancy. Lost about 40 of it in 2 years, and got pregnant again..i am 180 as of this morning, and instead of being about 9 months apart my periods are about 6 weeks apart.
I honestly can't stand the fat and proud movement. And i have been over weight my entire life. I would never fat shame. And I don't care how happy you think you are..your quality and accessiblity to life suffers significantly. There is just too much you can't do.
I am all for loving yourself. You certainly shouldn't be suicidal, but you should be motivated to make yourself better. My husband has lost 130 lbs. 420 to about 290. The things he is willing to do now, or can do..os awesome. We went to disney, he could rise everything! !!
However there are still things..like we are going on vacation and he is over the zip line weight limit. That motivates him. And it should!12 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »80 lbs ago, I was fat and ok (not "happy," but ok) and technically in good health, but I was in pain and had no quality of life. That has to factor into the "health" equation, and if your favorite activity makes you pass out because of your weight, that's no quality of life.
True and everyone deserves to be happy. I had no health problems when I was morbidly obese, but staying at that weight will lead to health problems eventually.
Sorry but your threads confusing the hell out of me. If you yourself had no health issues when you were morbidly obese, why do you take issue with someone in the same scenario saying the same thing? Thin people won't be healthy forever either? Oh and even at a normal weight, due to the physical activity I choose, I sometimes have trouble walking up stairs and look like an old lady. Last night, I was indeed panicking that something was wrong, likely because I misguidedly completed a workout beside someone who'd clearly drenched themself in a cigarette prior and aggravated my asthma. Arghhhhh. And now I'm going off topic just like your post
No, I wouldn't recommend morbid obesity, but if the lady's fine with it, I'm not getting the "she must be oh so delusional" comments.
I believe that poster is saying that you can be morbidly obese and feel fine for a while, but it'll catch up to you. It's not the same thing as being thin. The whole thing is that the amount of extra weight and fat put stress on the joints and heart, which will eventually cause pain.
Thin people do not have this problem unless they have a family history of arthritis or another health condition.4 -
The "morbid" part, by definition means that it's reached a point where it's going to kill you without intervention.
But it looks like (from the ads) that they're going to start addressing that issue, holding an intervention amongst other things.
Hopefully while last season gave people hope that they can be happy, maybe this season will help people recover.2 -
Last weeks show was heartbreaking. She wants to do activities that she did when she was thinner and she can't. I give her credit for trying but I would have never tried skiing at that weight. I think she looks like she has gained weight since last season. I was in the morbid obese category and had no health problems at all. None. It was only a matter of time before I got something. I wasn't going to let that happen!3
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