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Four things cut cancer risk in half
cmtristani
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Interesting article with what seems to be solid research behind it. Two of the four are the subject of this community - fitness and weight. http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-how-to-prevent-cancers-20160519-snap-story.html
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Seems like the same stuff we've been told will keep us healthy for quite some time. I'm hoping 3 out of 4 will be enough. ::drinker::1
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Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal5
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Not necessarily:trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
There is no conclusive research on human subjects to prove that sugar makes cancerous cells grow and metastasize. Avoiding foods with processed sugar is a good idea in general, but eliminating foods with natural sugar won’t stop cancer cells from dividing.
In fact, every cell in the human body, including cancer cells, need blood sugar in the form of glucose for energy. Most people associate the term “sugar” with the white sugar we put in coffee. When talking about biological processes, sugar is a general term for dozens of vital chemical structures in our bodies.
As Julie Baker, Clinical Oncology Dietitian at our hospital outside Atlanta, explains it: “Our bodies use glucose, the simplest unit of carbohydrate, as their primary fuel. Without adequate carbohydrate intake, our bodies will obtain glucose, or fuel, from another source. Possibilities include the breakdown of proteins we eat or proteins stored in our body, which may ultimately lead to muscle loss and malnutrition.”
Eliminating all sugar from a cancer patient’s diet would harm healthy cells that need energy to function.
http://www.cancercenter.com/discussions/blog/does-sugar-feed-cancer/
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trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
Where do people get these ideas? Cancer cells are JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOUR CELLS. Only they don't die like they're supposed to. The reason they evade your immune system is that they're JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOUR CELLS.
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trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
You are going to remove the glycogen from your body to help prevent cancer?!1 -
paulgads82 wrote: »trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
You are going to remove the glycogen from your body to help prevent cancer?!
Well, if you're dead you can't get cancer anymore.34 -
stevencloser wrote: »paulgads82 wrote: »trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
You are going to remove the glycogen from your body to help prevent cancer?!
Well, if you're dead you can't get cancer anymore.
This is the kind of out of the box thinking that will make America great again41 -
trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
So why not the people suffering who are in the final stages who cant/won't eat who are therefore in ketosis suddenly not cured?7 -
I am just happy that my goals and all this work have both short term and long term benefit1
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trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
Cells in general require glucose, not just cancer cells.5 -
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trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
Where do people get these ideas? Cancer cells are JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOUR CELLS. Only they don't die like they're supposed to. The reason they evade your immune system is that they're JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOUR CELLS.
I wonder if it's confusion with a common scan (PET) to detect cancer. Lots of people fast before PET scans because what you eat can cause false positives. I fast for 36 hours before mine.
My oncologist seems very adamant that sugar doesn't do anything with cancer. She says in general being obese is a risk factor.3 -
I thought it was simply lifestyle and genes. I'm erring on the side of caution (no major vices!) since genes not so great.0
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Drinkin', smokin', eating too much good food and slacking off. GEEZ must they suck all the fun out of life!!!3
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My friend raised a healthy vegetarian grew up into a super "healthy" (organic, filtered, green juice) vegan died of cancer....if its gonna get you it's gonna get you.4
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trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
My dad had esophagus cancer. It grew and restricted his esophagus down to a pin hole. The OLNY thing he could eat was protein shakes. A hot dog put in a blender for 5 minutes would get stuck at the restriction and would back up the "pipe" until he gagged and puked everything back up. He went from 180 lbs with six pack abs to a 6' tall 120 lb skeleton over the course of about 6 months. He was in ketosis the entire time since he had about 15g of carbs a day and the cancer grew and spread throughout his entire body.
I freely acknowledge that this is an n=1 example, but the problem with absolutes, like "cancer can't feed on ketone bodys" is that n=1 disproves them.8 -
trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
My dad had esophagus cancer. It grew and restricted his esophagus down to a pin hole. The OLNY thing he could eat was protein shakes. A hot dog put in a blender for 5 minutes would get stuck at the restriction and would back up the "pipe" until he gagged and puked everything back up. He went from 180 lbs with six pack abs to a 6' tall 120 lb skeleton over the course of about 6 months. He was in ketosis the entire time since he had about 15g of carbs a day and the cancer grew and spread throughout his entire body.
I freely acknowledge that this is an n=1 example, but the problem with absolutes, like "cancer can't feed on ketone bodys" is that n=1 disproves them.
I'm so sorry that your father had to go through that.
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trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
Fasting cures cancer! :huh:
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »trollerskates wrote: »Caner cells cant feed on ketone bodys. They only eat glycogen. So keeping a low sugar carb diet is where id start if cancer free was my goal
Fasting cures cancer! :huh:
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This.....Oh how I wish it did.....then I wouldn't have had to sit and watch my mother die.....starvation never cured her. (I know you were being ironic)0 -
So, what exactly is "cutting back" on drinking? Can I get a hard number?0
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One alcoholic drink a day for women, and two for men per day is the standard.0
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dcdickerson2 wrote: »One alcoholic drink a day for women, and two for men per day is the standard.
Great. I'll have two pints of Scotch.
(A drink is a nonsense term without units
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dcdickerson2 wrote: »One alcoholic drink a day for women, and two for men per day is the standard.
Great. I'll have two pints of Scotch.
(A drink is a nonsense term without units )
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/what-standard-drink1
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