Bicep curls - difference between variations?
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What, if any, difference is there between the different variations of bicep curls? That is, do different variations truly help build biceps in different ways or does it just come down to personal preference?
I have done very little bicep isolation work so far and just decided to start adding it in regularly (twice a week.) My plan right now is to do 3 sets of 10-15 at the end of the workout with dumbbell concentration curls on one day and e-z bar curls the other day. Anything wrong with sticking with these two types or does it make more sense to rotate variations every few weeks?
I have done very little bicep isolation work so far and just decided to start adding it in regularly (twice a week.) My plan right now is to do 3 sets of 10-15 at the end of the workout with dumbbell concentration curls on one day and e-z bar curls the other day. Anything wrong with sticking with these two types or does it make more sense to rotate variations every few weeks?
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Doing different variations builds the muscle in different ways. I do multiple angles for full bicep workouts.0
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Yes, I believe doing variations builds the muscles in different ways. I do several variations, but I do them all on the same day, using both dumbbells and the barbell.0
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Yes, Different Variations Hit Different Parts Of Your Bicep.. Theres A Long Head And A Short Head, And Certain Variation Will FAvor One Or The Other..0
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Anything wrong with sticking with these two types or does it make more sense to rotate variations every few weeks?
2 types of curls are plenty, and for the vast majority of non-fitness models or professional bodybuilders, that's 2 too many. You'll get more (muscle, weight loss ... whatever your goal is) out of doing compound exercises.
For biceps: pull-ups/chin-ups, bent-over rows, lat pull-down.
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xmichaelyx wrote: »Anything wrong with sticking with these two types or does it make more sense to rotate variations every few weeks?
2 types of curls are plenty, and for the vast majority of non-fitness models or professional bodybuilders, that's 2 too many. You'll get more (muscle, weight loss ... whatever your goal is) out of doing compound exercises.
For biceps: pull-ups/chin-ups, bent-over rows, lat pull-down.
Yep. I've know several guys in D1 sports programs and the only way they can do curls in the team weight room is after they've done their required work which doesn't include curls.0 -
OP, Do different variations, and do not forget the hammer curls LOL
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xmichaelyx wrote: »Anything wrong with sticking with these two types or does it make more sense to rotate variations every few weeks?
2 types of curls are plenty, and for the vast majority of non-fitness models or professional bodybuilders, that's 2 too many. You'll get more (muscle, weight loss ... whatever your goal is) out of doing compound exercises.
For biceps: pull-ups/chin-ups, bent-over rows, lat pull-down.
Definitely. I don't think they are necessary but may be a good compliment. I've never done any sort of bicep curl at all. I definitely do bent-over rows and lat pull-downs and they seem to work just fine.
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I don't think we have to worry about this particular OP neglecting compound moves in favor of BroCurls.3
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I don't think we have to worry about this particular OP neglecting compound moves in favor of BroCurls.
Lol. Thank you
Yes, I do plenty of compounds. I'm trying to do block programming for isolation exercises after those. I started with a focus more on shoulder isolation exercises about 6 weeks ago and now I'd like to switch to arms for a period. I'll just switch focus back and forth periodically. No need to worry about me skipping my compounds. Not as impressive as many of the ladies here (I hold fat in my torso rather than my legs/hips/butt like many women) but I do plenty of compound exercises.
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Well, at most I do maybe a total of 4 sets of any bicep isolation since I've already hit them with compounds.
I'll do 2 sets of hammer curls and then pick a variation of standard curls.
I will say when I do DB curls on an incline bench where I'm leaned back a bit, arms at my side, then curl up, it stretches them quite a bit and the contraction is quite intense at the top.
Maybe it's just me but.....my biceps were built up doing the heavy compounds but had little definition (?) less peak until I added some isolation lifts in. But, as mentioned, it didn't take much isolation to get a little better peak.2 -
Isolation work always getting a bad rap...4
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Isolation work always getting a bad rap...
Which I've never understood.
I increased my lifts by using isolation work to bring up weak areas. Skullcrushers and CGBP helped my triceps get stronger and got me past a sticking point on bench.
Same with legs and needing to bring the hamstrings up. Hammy curls and RDL's helped.
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piperdown44 wrote: »Isolation work always getting a bad rap...
Which I've never understood.
I increased my lifts by using isolation work to bring up weak areas. Skullcrushers and CGBP helped my triceps get stronger and got me past a sticking point on bench.
Same with legs and needing to bring the hamstrings up. Hammy curls and RDL's helped.
No idea. I start out with a compound for every body part but then it's on to lots of isolation. I've done alright.
That being said, I only do arms about once a month on their own.2 -
Exactly.
I don't care how good a "mind to muscle" connection you have, you're still using some biceps to work back lifts. If your biceps are a limiting factor why not spend some time increasing their strength with some iso stuff....
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RosieRose7673 wrote: »xmichaelyx wrote: »Anything wrong with sticking with these two types or does it make more sense to rotate variations every few weeks?
2 types of curls are plenty, and for the vast majority of non-fitness models or professional bodybuilders, that's 2 too many. You'll get more (muscle, weight loss ... whatever your goal is) out of doing compound exercises.
For biceps: pull-ups/chin-ups, bent-over rows, lat pull-down.
Definitely. I don't think they are necessary but may be a good compliment. I've never done any sort of bicep curl at all. I definitely do bent-over rows and lat pull-downs and they seem to work just fine.
Ya, that's what I do to cover biceps as well. I realize different people have different needs and goals. I used to do tricep pull downs to help with yoga "pushups" which made my triceps sore then realized actual pushups helped more with this. I'll sometimes still do the tricep pulldowns if I have extra time, but realize I get more bang for my buck from pushups.0 -
Grip, etc. will determine what head is targeted. Long or short.0
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xmichaelyx wrote: »Anything wrong with sticking with these two types or does it make more sense to rotate variations every few weeks?
2 types of curls are plenty, and for the vast majority of non-fitness models or professional bodybuilders, that's 2 too many. You'll get more (muscle, weight loss ... whatever your goal is) out of doing compound exercises.
For biceps: pull-ups/chin-ups, bent-over rows, lat pull-down.
Yeah compound exercises will work for a beginner, but what happens when they grow accustomed to those exercises? I do presses 3x a week with rows and pull-ups 2x a week. I can promise you if I didn't incorporate curls and tricep isolation into my workouts then Id see almost no growth. What about my brachialis? Which is targeted through reverse curls. Going by your logic; I shouldn't ever have to do calve exercises because they receive more than enough stimulation through my squats and deadlifts. Yet they didn't grow for 6 months until I incorporated calve work.
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I would not be where I'm without isolation exercises. I could do barbell curls all day, but it's not enough.0
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I also don't understand the earlier hate on isolation work. I have a brother, uncle and friends that have competed and done well in bodybuilding and I don't know a single one of them that hasn't done some isolation exercises. My biceps didn't have a peak until I gave biceps some love, lol.
DB curls on an incline work the long head of the bicep more effectively--one of my favorites!
You can also play with the grip on your EZ bar curls to do reverse, wide, or narrower to change what you are hitting.
Another favorite of mine is incorporating cables-the increase work in the negative and time under tension really kills my biceps (in a good way).
Best of luck with your isolation work!
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Different bicep curls also target different muscles besides the biceps. Hammer curls target the brachioradialis and pronated/reverse grip targets the brachialis for example.1
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I've built my arms from isolation work. However, that was the intent. If one isn't looking to add a lot of size, then isolation work isn't needed. Sticking to compounds that activate and stress the biceps are good enough if you're just trying to keep them strong.
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TannedTiger wrote: »how important is the weight for biceps? For some reason, I always struggle to increase the weight for bicep isolation.
My Opinion--not very important. There is a difference between building strength and building muscle. Biceps are a smaller muscle as well, so going heavy can just be a recipe for injury and usually when people go heavy they no longer isolate the bicep.2
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