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Sugar or Sweetener?
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Artificial sweetners increase cravings for sweet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
This study followed 62 overweight women trying to lose weight who regularly drank diet beverages. Half the women were randomized to start drinking water instead, the other half continued drinking diet beverages (one small drink five days a week) for 24 weeks. The women who switched to water lost significantly more weight. The water group also improved their fasting insulin, signs of insulin resistance and their glucose tolerance, compared to the diet drinks group.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26537940
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/09/18/could-artificial-sweeteners-be-contributing-to-the-obesity-crisis/#465faec65dbf3 -
Artificial sweetners increase cravings for sweet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
This study followed 62 overweight women trying to lose weight who regularly drank diet beverages. Half the women were randomized to start drinking water instead, the other half continued drinking diet beverages (one small drink five days a week) for 24 weeks. The women who switched to water lost significantly more weight. The water group also improved their fasting insulin, signs of insulin resistance and their glucose tolerance, compared to the diet drinks group.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26537940
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/09/18/could-artificial-sweeteners-be-contributing-to-the-obesity-crisis/#465faec65dbf
you are moving hte goalposts from your origial post..
insulin does not drive hunger...
I don't need to read the study to know that they lost weight when they switched to water because they were giving up calorie dense things for less calorie dense things...its not complicated...
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Artificial sweetners increase cravings for sweet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
This study followed 62 overweight women trying to lose weight who regularly drank diet beverages. Half the women were randomized to start drinking water instead, the other half continued drinking diet beverages (one small drink five days a week) for 24 weeks. The women who switched to water lost significantly more weight. The water group also improved their fasting insulin, signs of insulin resistance and their glucose tolerance, compared to the diet drinks group.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26537940
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/09/18/could-artificial-sweeteners-be-contributing-to-the-obesity-crisis/#465faec65dbf
you are moving hte goalposts from your origial post..
insulin does not drive hunger...
I don't need to read the study to know that they lost weight when they switched to water because they were giving up calorie dense things for less calorie dense things...its not complicated...
Giving up diet coke for water is not "giving up calorie dense things for less calorie dense things."
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Artificial sweetners increase cravings for sweet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
This study followed 62 overweight women trying to lose weight who regularly drank diet beverages. Half the women were randomized to start drinking water instead, the other half continued drinking diet beverages (one small drink five days a week) for 24 weeks. The women who switched to water lost significantly more weight. The water group also improved their fasting insulin, signs of insulin resistance and their glucose tolerance, compared to the diet drinks group.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26537940
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/09/18/could-artificial-sweeteners-be-contributing-to-the-obesity-crisis/#465faec65dbf
you are moving hte goalposts from your origial post..
insulin does not drive hunger...
I don't need to read the study to know that they lost weight when they switched to water because they were giving up calorie dense things for less calorie dense things...its not complicated...
Giving up diet coke for water is not "giving up calorie dense things for less calorie dense things."
never said that it was..
i said they lost weight by lowering calorie intake; i.e. giving up calorie dense foods...1 -
I prefer sweetener, but that is only because it is a 0 calorie. I don't use much of it either. Usually I don't even use the whole packet and I only put it in my coffee or on my grits. I do prefer the taste of raw sugar, but don't want the extra calories.0
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@tomteboda lol @ "dead yeast air holes".2
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stevia, or raw local honey1
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I still use sugar, just a little in my coffee. I also use monk fruit as well as SugaVida.0
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I don't drink things like soda often, but when I do I sure am NOT going to consume my calories in a drink, so I'll go with the artificial sweetener. Even for something like an iced coffee, if I couldn't get it made with sweetener, I'd choose to go without it completely rather than "waste" my calories.
Artificial sweeteners don't increase my cravings (as it's claimed to do for some people). If anything, when I'm on a cut, it can prevent me from snacking in the evening.
I've lost 100 lbs consuming artificial sweeteners, so I don't believe people when they claim it causes weight gain (just because of my own experience with it).4 -
Artificial sweetners increase cravings for sweet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
This study followed 62 overweight women trying to lose weight who regularly drank diet beverages. Half the women were randomized to start drinking water instead, the other half continued drinking diet beverages (one small drink five days a week) for 24 weeks. The women who switched to water lost significantly more weight. The water group also improved their fasting insulin, signs of insulin resistance and their glucose tolerance, compared to the diet drinks group.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26537940
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/09/18/could-artificial-sweeteners-be-contributing-to-the-obesity-crisis/#465faec65dbf
you are moving hte goalposts from your origial post..
insulin does not drive hunger...
I don't need to read the study to know that they lost weight when they switched to water because they were giving up calorie dense things for less calorie dense things...its not complicated...
Giving up diet coke for water is not "giving up calorie dense things for less calorie dense things."
never said that it was..
i said they lost weight by lowering calorie intake; i.e. giving up calorie dense foods...
How does that suggest that insulin doesn't "stimulate an insulin response, which drives hunger" (the original goal post)?1 -
MYTH: Insulin Makes You Hungry
FACT: Insulin Suppresses Appetite
It is a well known fact that insulin acutely suppresses appetite. This has been demonstrated in dozens and dozens of experiments.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/index.php/free-content/free-content/volume-1-issue-7-insulin-and-thinking-better/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/5 -
Either, can live without both.0
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Erythritol ftw. I can't help but love the stuff.0
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I use sugar, a tsp is like 16 calories? So what..it's really not that much to be worried about.0
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I am a newly-admitted diabetic, but I've used xylitol for years, having lost 124 lbs. I tried stevia but just can't do it. I do drink diet pop, which use other sweeteners.0
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Give me some sugar. Sweeteners taste disgusting and life is too short to eat disgusting things.0
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I don't have a study to share but do think artificial sugar does something to make me want to eat more. It stays in check if I limit it. Only like it in drinks and packaged foods. I have tried baking with it but haven't had much success.0
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I've never liked the taste of sweeteners, so I will use sugar or honey.0
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FunkyTobias wrote: »
MYTH: Insulin Makes You Hungry
FACT: Insulin Suppresses Appetite
It is a well known fact that insulin acutely suppresses appetite. This has been demonstrated in dozens and dozens of experiments.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/index.php/free-content/free-content/volume-1-issue-7-insulin-and-thinking-better/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/
^ This ^
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Sugar is an essential part of our diet. Refined sugar is a killer. Like most things, if it's natural it's good, if it's artifical it's bad. Stevia is an exception, use that as a sweetner if you want, however the best and most healthy source is natural brown sugar.
Also, insulin is usually the main point of focus in discussions and heath programs, however equally important to insulin is glucagon. By consuming natural sugar sources, the sugar is converted into glycogen. A healthy pancreas can then release glucagon when the body needs it. Correctly functioning glucagon release is the key to insulin sensitivity, since insulin and glucagon are two heads of the same beast so to speak - they complement one another in every way imaginable.0
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