For bodybuilders trying to get ripped - carbs?

btrias24
btrias24 Posts: 30 Member
So im 170lbs and trying to get lean muscle and burn fat at the same time whats the magic combination? So far im doing 40% carbs 40% protein and 20% fat. I feel and see that its working for me. I was doing low carbs before but didnt showed big results regarding lean muscles. Now im consuming between 150-200 carbs. Im 5'9" weighing 170 lbs. Whats ur input? Just curious if i need to lesser my carbs to get ripped???
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  • fatfudgery
    fatfudgery Posts: 449 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    trying to get lean muscle and burn fat at the same time whats the magic combination?

    There's no magic combo, recomps are just slow. You're better off bulking and cutting, making sure you're getting your protein in at all times.
  • DresdenSinn
    DresdenSinn Posts: 665 Member
    edited July 2016
    If it's working for you don't change it. You didn't state your calorie intake but I'm assuming your in a deficit so be sure to keep it that way to continue to lean out. I recently did an ultra cut/rip where I got my bodyfat down as low as I could then lowered my carbs to <30g/day for 5 days then did a 30hr food fast. It was effective (6% bodyfat) but let me tell ya..I wasn't in my right mind for 6 days!
  • btrias24
    btrias24 Posts: 30 Member
    edited July 2016
    @DresdenSinn 30grams a day of carbs for 5 days??? Man didnt u even feel weak? Are you doing carb cycling?
  • btrias24
    btrias24 Posts: 30 Member
    @psulemon ty for the input. I guess it depends on each individuals body type and activities. I lift 5x a week cardio 3x, im down 12% of body fat from digital and 10% from manual caliper. I just thought its a lil surprising for me burning fat while consuming more carbs but again if anything i read this article for my body weight i need to consume 2x of grams of carbs per bodyweight which leads me to 300grams per day which i think for me is really difficult
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @psulemon ty for the input. I guess it depends on each individuals body type and activities. I lift 5x a week cardio 3x, im down 12% of body fat from digital and 10% from manual caliper. I just thought its a lil surprising for me burning fat while consuming more carbs but again if anything i read this article for my body weight i need to consume 2x of grams of carbs per bodyweight which leads me to 300grams per day which i think for me is really difficult

    What article?? You don't need some arbitrary amount of carbs.
    For fat loss, you need a calorie deficit. For muscle repair, you need adequate protein. For heart, joint and hormone health (among other things), you need adequate fat intake.
    Everything else is up to personal preference.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @psulemon ty for the input. I guess it depends on each individuals body type and activities. I lift 5x a week cardio 3x, im down 12% of body fat from digital and 10% from manual caliper. I just thought its a lil surprising for me burning fat while consuming more carbs but again if anything i read this article for my body weight i need to consume 2x of grams of carbs per bodyweight which leads me to 300grams per day which i think for me is really difficult


    You need to do what? Can you post this article because that sounds odd.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    I'm 146 pounds and I eat 400g carbs a day. Get them carbs down you the only way to build yourself
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,422 MFP Moderator
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @psulemon ty for the input. I guess it depends on each individuals body type and activities. I lift 5x a week cardio 3x, im down 12% of body fat from digital and 10% from manual caliper. I just thought its a lil surprising for me burning fat while consuming more carbs but again if anything i read this article for my body weight i need to consume 2x of grams of carbs per bodyweight which leads me to 300grams per day which i think for me is really difficult

    What article?? You don't need some arbitrary amount of carbs.
    For fat loss, you need a calorie deficit. For muscle repair, you need adequate protein. For heart, joint and hormone health (among other things), you need adequate fat intake.
    Everything else is up to personal preference.

    Yep. Although i suspect the article was about somatotypes, which are thoroughly debunked as you know.
  • williammuney
    williammuney Posts: 2,895 Member
    If it's working for you don't change it. You didn't state your calorie intake but I'm assuming your in a deficit so be sure to keep it that way to continue to lean out. I recently did an ultra cut/rip where I got my bodyfat down as low as I could then lowered my carbs to <30g/day for 5 days then did a 30hr food fast. It was effective (6% bodyfat) but let me tell ya..I wasn't in my right mind for 6 days!

    Wow I'm impressed! That's some high level commitment brother!
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    So im 170lbs and trying to get lean muscle and burn fat at the same time whats the magic combination? So far im doing 40% carbs 40% protein and 20% fat. I feel and see that its working for me. I was doing low carbs before but didnt showed big results regarding lean muscles. Now im consuming between 150-200 carbs. Im 5'9" weighing 170 lbs. Whats ur input? Just curious if i need to lesser my carbs to get ripped???

    what you're doing is essentially re-comp...it is extremely slow and basically a bi-product of just eating well and working out...basically over time you end up with a "fitness body"...not generally a body builder's body. It is extremely slow and you don't pack on a lot of mass...this is why body builder's doing bulking and cutting cycles.
  • btrias24
    btrias24 Posts: 30 Member
    So i get it. Eat more? I know thats my downfall my calorie intake is only 2100 per day 170gram of protein and 200gr of carbs. Trying to eat more but its tough job :smiley: im scared of eating too much carbs might get me, i know some of my friends that did and looked fat.
  • btrias24
    btrias24 Posts: 30 Member
    Sorry for the confusion guys but im not aiming for a bodybuilding type of body like we see at the contests. Just trying to get cut. I dont want to be tooo big or my wife would kill me! Lol!
  • btrias24
    btrias24 Posts: 30 Member
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:
  • DresdenSinn
    DresdenSinn Posts: 665 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    Sorry for the confusion guys but im not aiming for a bodybuilding type of body like we see at the contests.

    LOL..your not going to have to worry about looking like that unless your going to get some "special" help, even the "natural" competitors who get decently big/cut have achieved that through years and years of hard work. I've been at it on and off (mostly on) for 18 years and you see what I've achieved.

  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    I doubt she'll indulge you...but yes...you would be eating your words.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    Just click on her name to see her profile pics. Might wanna grab a spoon first because, yes, you will be eating your words.
  • btrias24
    btrias24 Posts: 30 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    Just click on her name to see her profile pics. Might wanna grab a spoon first because, yes, you will be eating your words.

    I cannot see her other pix,its on private. But trying to add her. Lol just trying to make sure im getting answers from the right people lol
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    Just click on her name to see her profile pics. Might wanna grab a spoon first because, yes, you will be eating your words.

    I cannot see her other pix,its on private. But trying to add her. Lol just trying to make sure im getting answers from the right people lol

    LOL. I understand. But yes, she is somebody who knows her stuff.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    I doubt she'll indulge you...but yes...you would be eating your words.

    Totally.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    btrias24 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    Just click on her name to see her profile pics. Might wanna grab a spoon first because, yes, you will be eating your words.

    I cannot see her other pix,its on private. But trying to add her. Lol just trying to make sure im getting answers from the right people lol


    Nope - her profile and pics are not private.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited July 2016
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    @jorocka is awesomely fit and her photos are great

    She weighs the same as me and I'm nowhere near her league but still I'm 5'8 at 160lb and at goal body aesthetic and I consider myself fairly fit
  • bellaa_x0
    bellaa_x0 Posts: 1,062 Member
    edited July 2016
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    ... 160lbs is heavy for a woman? that is completely relative and ignorant. i currently weigh just under 175lbs - do i look "heavy"?

    y0u7f18gs3tl.jpg

  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    bellaa_x0 wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    ... 160lbs is heavy for a woman? that is completely relative and ignorant. i currently weigh just under 175lbs - do i look "heavy"?

    y0u7f18gs3tl.jpg

    I'm not sure what the culture is around where you live but in most of the US, a 160-175 lb woman is out of shape and overly fat. You would be an outlier.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited July 2016
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    Dude. I'm 5'9", 177... And @JoRocka is way more fit than me. You have a very narrow definition of a "fit woman."
  • novio50
    novio50 Posts: 778 Member
    it's a long process, but be patient. You will get there. I've been doing this for about 6 months and I've seen a lot of change, but not at my goal yet. It does take discipline to get there. I've been taking a break every 90 days to keep the monotony and plateaus at a minimum. These next 90 days my aim is to lose another 10-15lbs. I need to get that fat off of me. And keep sexy from going out of style in my neck of the woods....
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    bellaa_x0 wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    ... 160lbs is heavy for a woman? that is completely relative and ignorant. i currently weigh just under 175lbs - do i look "heavy"?

    y0u7f18gs3tl.jpg

    I'm not sure what the culture is around where you live but in most of the US, a 160-175 lb woman is out of shape and overly fat. You would be an outlier.
    I agree. While yes there are exceptions on this forum, most women I know in real life who weigh 160lbs+ are not in shape.

  • bellaa_x0
    bellaa_x0 Posts: 1,062 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    bellaa_x0 wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    ... 160lbs is heavy for a woman? that is completely relative and ignorant. i currently weigh just under 175lbs - do i look "heavy"?

    y0u7f18gs3tl.jpg

    I'm not sure what the culture is around where you live but in most of the US, a 160-175 lb woman is out of shape and overly fat. You would be an outlier.

    thank you for your blunt input; and yes, i live in the US, but i am not OVERLY fat at 5'10" nor am i out of shape.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    bellaa_x0 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    bellaa_x0 wrote: »
    btrias24 wrote: »
    @JoRocka bold statement but i need proof :smiley: not trying to call u out but i wanna see a 160lbs woman that is really fit, thats heavy for females but honestly ive only seen women that competes for bikini contest lol. But i might be eating my words later right? :wink:

    ... 160lbs is heavy for a woman? that is completely relative and ignorant. i currently weigh just under 175lbs - do i look "heavy"?

    y0u7f18gs3tl.jpg

    I'm not sure what the culture is around where you live but in most of the US, a 160-175 lb woman is out of shape and overly fat. You would be an outlier.

    thank you for your blunt input; and yes, i live in the US, but i am not OVERLY fat at 5'10" nor am i out of shape.

    I can't tell if you are being sarcastic and think I was being rude or not. (I'm being straight here--I have a problem recognizing sarcasm at times and tend to take things literally so I often need to double check.) But I want to be clear that I meant that you would be an outlier because you are very fit with a healthy bf level at that weight, based on your picture alone. I define "overly fat" as having an above healthy amount of fat, whether that is 10 pounds or 50 pounds and don't mean it like "that person has a maybe 10 pounds to lose but that other person is OVERLY fat."

    I hope that makes sense.
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