My rant about the MFP community.

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Keep an open mind, we're all individuals, what works well for one may not work for another.

I love carbs... and grew up eating sandwiches and playing outside... funnily enough it's when I got older and started to spend all day at a desk that I started to gain weight... I'm now spending all day at a desk AND exercising more and moderating my portions (instead of eating for three when it's just me) and I'm now losing weight.

Great post... yep, I read to the bottom of it!

This is your way!
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ya you're right..hypocrisy

"Do you really think cutting carbs is a life long plan? "
Yes, I do.

I honestly don't know why you felt the need to single out low carb dieting in your rant. If you and your mom don't think its right for you, I could care less, that is your decision. However, there are plenty of people on these forums following all manner of diet plans who feel strongly about what they are doing and post their strong opinions here. They can't all be right but I didn't see you focusing any attention on them in your rant. Why not?

Finally, did you ever consider that maybe you and your mom are wrong? I'm not saying everyone should do a low carb diet, but on the other hand I can see no reason to sit idly by and let your post go unchallenged.

She was just being honest and sincere unlike you. If you want to get into a scientific jousting match about diets i'm game. Low carb is like its always been a FAD diet that made alot of people alot of money. You've got the world at your fingertips so why don't you go read about the negative health benefits of low carb diets. Just because it assists in losing weight doesn't mean its healthy. Another example of money for fat..Our stomachs aren't made to be cinched in a noose but look how popular the lap band is by people that can't control what they put in their mouths. Now they got Lap band walk in centers basically.

I've found that there is some good information on these forums but not much. People need to eat healthy balanced meals that have adequate fats, carbs and proteins. I actually watch mine but it doesn't dictate what i eat. I eat what i want and have lost in the past 6 months around 50lbs.

Ultimately the only knowledge that's required to lose weight is eat less then you burn in a day and your weight will drop. ANY exercise improves the rate of drop due to increasing your muscle mass. The diet business is just about as big as the pharma industry. Everybody has the answer yet 30% or more of the American population at least is waaay overweight. Guess what. Most would love a magic bullet solution like your support of a low carb diet. There are no magic bullets other then self discipline and desire to be at a healthy weight. That means controlling not necessarily what but how much we put in our mouths.

"Do you really think cutting carbs is a life long plan? "
Yes, I do.

I honestly don't know why you felt the need to single out low carb dieting in your rant. If you and your mom don't think its right for you, I could care less, that is your decision. However, there are plenty of people on these forums following all manner of diet plans who feel strongly about what they are doing and post their strong opinions here. They can't all be right but I didn't see you focusing any attention on them in your rant. Why not?

Finally, did you ever consider that maybe you and your mom are wrong? I'm not saying everyone should do a low carb diet, but on the other hand I can see no reason to sit idly by and let your post go unchallenged.

It's funny isn't it, that people seem to think low carb = no carb. It's not, it's just a reduced dependency on carbs for our energy. I have stopped having grain-based carbs with my meals, and you know what - I feel full, I have plenty of energy, I am LOVING the fact that eating this way means I get to eat a ton of great tasty fresh veggies, and I do not feel remotely deprived. At the weekend I went to see my folks and was given bread for lunch, a few hours later I was bloated and tense across my stomach. On a grain free diet my stomach feels free and lacking in tension.

No, carbs are not the enemy, but the standard western diet relies too much on them to bulk up the daily meal. It is perfectly possible to live low-carb and not feel like you are missing out at all. What I love about being low carb (and by low I am aiming for around 100g) is the amount of fresh stuff I get to eat rather than highly processed who-knows-what.


I do agree with the OP on some aspects - when I was younger I probably spent most of my free time outside, coming home for dinner at 7pm. There was no sitting in front of the TV or computer. My childhood was spent climbing trees, riding my bike and generally getting plenty of VitaminD!! One thing I think has led to the obesity epidemic (in addition to 'nutritional theoires') is the use of 'energy-saving' devices.

Eat less, move more.It doesn't have to be restrictive, it just doesn't have to be excessive.

She was just being honest and sincere unlike you. If you want to get into a scientific jousting match about diets i'm game. Low carb is like its always been a FAD diet that made alot of people alot of money. You've got the world at your fingertips so why don't you go read about the negative health benefits of low carb diets. Just because it assists in losing weight doesn't mean its healthy. Another example of money for fat..Our stomachs aren't made to be cinched in a noose but look how popular the lap band is by people that can't control what they put in their mouths. Now they got Lap band walk in centers basically.

I've found that there is some good information on these forums but not much. People need to eat healthy balanced meals that have adequate fats, carbs and proteins. I actually watch mine but it doesn't dictate what i eat. I eat what i want and have lost in the past 6 months around 50lbs.

Ultimately the only knowledge that's required to lose weight is eat less then you burn in a day and your weight will drop. ANY exercise improves the rate of drop due to increasing your muscle mass. The diet business is just about as big as the pharma industry. Everybody has the answer yet 30% or more of the American population at least is waaay overweight. Guess what. Most would love a magic bullet solution like your support of a low carb diet. There are no magic bullets other then self discipline and desire to be at a healthy weight. That means controlling not necessarily what but how much we put in our mouths.

You talk about honesty but then you make a post like this.

I'll keep my response short but you should aware that many people in the world have lived their entire life on low carb diets and are as healthy as any of us. Since you're talking reading and having the world at your fingertips, please open your book to the "Inuit" people of north America. There are also plenty of paleo dieters who eat low carb as well and are very healthy. Is it sustainable? Sure, as long as you dedicate your lifestyle to it.

So, in conclusion, if you're going to talk about honesty, why not be honest?

"Do you really think cutting carbs is a life long plan? "
Yes, I do.

I honestly don't know why you felt the need to single out low carb dieting in your rant. If you and your mom don't think its right for you, I could care less, that is your decision. However, there are plenty of people on these forums following all manner of diet plans who feel strongly about what they are doing and post their strong opinions here. They can't all be right but I didn't see you focusing any attention on them in your rant. Why not?

Finally, did you ever consider that maybe you and your mom are wrong? I'm not saying everyone should do a low carb diet, but on the other hand I can see no reason to sit idly by and let your post go unchallenged.

She was just being honest and sincere unlike you. If you want to get into a scientific jousting match about diets i'm game. Low carb is like its always been a FAD diet that made alot of people alot of money. You've got the world at your fingertips so why don't you go read about the negative health benefits of low carb diets. Just because it assists in losing weight doesn't mean its healthy. Another example of money for fat..Our stomachs aren't made to be cinched in a noose but look how popular the lap band is by people that can't control what they put in their mouths. Now they got Lap band walk in centers basically.

I've found that there is some good information on these forums but not much. People need to eat healthy balanced meals that have adequate fats, carbs and proteins. I actually watch mine but it doesn't dictate what i eat. I eat what i want and have lost in the past 6 months around 50lbs.

Ultimately the only knowledge that's required to lose weight is eat less then you burn in a day and your weight will drop. ANY exercise improves the rate of drop due to increasing your muscle mass. The diet business is just about as big as the pharma industry. Everybody has the answer yet 30% or more of the American population at least is waaay overweight. Guess what. Most would love a magic bullet solution like your support of a low carb diet. There are no magic bullets other then self discipline and desire to be at a healthy weight. That means controlling not necessarily what but how much we put in our mouths.

Where exactly was I dishonest and insincere?

While we're at it, why don't you explain to me exactly what YOU mean by the negative health benefits (whatever that means) of low carb diets? Then I'd be happy to respond to them with rational, polite discussion.

However, if you want to start up the insult flame thrower I am more than game but I'd really rather not go there.

It's like you read my mind OP

Wow ...Very well put. I haven't been on here for long so it's nice that one of the first post I read is by someone with a good head on her shoulders

Even better like me she has a thyroid problem.. I'm seriously thinking I'm going to get my OH to read the paragarph where you explain how the condition works (or not as is the case!!) I've tried to explain to him so many times and he just dosen't or won't get it ;(

And lastly but not least well done on your weight loss so far..

I could not live without carbs.....................................!

Well it is called a LOW carb, not a WITHOUT carb diet.

"Do you really think cutting carbs is a life long plan? "
Yes, I do.

I honestly don't know why you felt the need to single out low carb dieting in your rant. If you and your mom don't think its right for you, I could care less, that is your decision. However, there are plenty of people on these forums following all manner of diet plans who feel strongly about what they are doing and post their strong opinions here. They can't all be right but I didn't see you focusing any attention on them in your rant. Why not?

Finally, did you ever consider that maybe you and your mom are wrong? I'm not saying everyone should do a low carb diet, but on the other hand I can see no reason to sit idly by and let your post go unchallenged.

She was just being honest and sincere unlike you. If you want to get into a scientific jousting match about diets i'm game. Low carb is like its always been a FAD diet that made alot of people alot of money. You've got the world at your fingertips so why don't you go read about the negative health benefits of low carb diets. Just because it assists in losing weight doesn't mean its healthy. Another example of money for fat..Our stomachs aren't made to be cinched in a noose but look how popular the lap band is by people that can't control what they put in their mouths. Now they got Lap band walk in centers basically.

I've found that there is some good information on these forums but not much. People need to eat healthy balanced meals that have adequate fats, carbs and proteins. I actually watch mine but it doesn't dictate what i eat. I eat what i want and have lost in the past 6 months around 50lbs.

Ultimately the only knowledge that's required to lose weight is eat less then you burn in a day and your weight will drop. ANY exercise improves the rate of drop due to increasing your muscle mass. The diet business is just about as big as the pharma industry. Everybody has the answer yet 30% or more of the American population at least is waaay overweight. Guess what. Most would love a magic bullet solution like your support of a low carb diet. There are no magic bullets other then self discipline and desire to be at a healthy weight. That means controlling not necessarily what but how much we put in our mouths.

Here's something else for you to chew on while you work on a reply:
http://academicearth.org/lectures/battle-of-the-diets

Its fact that over the long term that followers of the Atkins plan have a higher incidence of cardiovascular diseases among other problems. . Instead of people eating our innate natural energy supply *(carbohydrates)* they turn to protein which isn't for one the healthiest thing to eat in large quantities and secondly doesn't fuel out bodies energy needs like carbs so. The whole low-carb was schemed up as a way of putting the body in ketosis mode which does burn fat more rapidly but is not necessarily healthy just because of it.

To much protein in ones diet is actually dangerous. Can it assist in weight loss short term. Sure it can. Your starving off your body of its natural fuel source. Its really not the food we have available that is the problem it's the stupid choices people make when building there menu's. It's known that we should limit red meat intake to about once a week and that's no more then 4oz.. Asians don't eat red meat that often and are a way healthier culture then we in the US by miles. They exist primarily on fish, veggies and yes WHITE RICE *carb*. They eat alot of noodles and soups,fruits.( i lived there for 4 years). They don't eat boxed or processed foods. There supermarkets don't have isles and isles of processed trash. They aren't too lazy to cook for themselves or their families like many American's are.

You know Dr. Adkins was a smart businessman. He figured out when a body enters a state of keytosis that it burns fat more rapidly Keytosis is what occurs when people only eat high levels of protein (low carb). His target for his plan were FAT people. Heck he drove it into a low carb revolution which has now pretty much disappeared. Nobody does Adkins anymore. There are a million other diets out there. Somebody mentioned the PALEO diet. That's what i call the caveman diet. It's worse then Adkins personally speaking.

One of the greatest role models for health was( Juiceman) Jack Lalanne. His favorite quote was " If Mother nature doesn't make it , don't eat it" This to the day is the best nutritional advice we could give anybody. What does that leave us? Meat/Fish, Vegetables, and Fruits. That doesn't include boxed trash foods like Mac & Cheese or candy or soda pop or anything machine processed.

Many of the longest living people in the world are from Okinawa Japan. They don't eat hardly any protein fish/meat. (mostly soy protein) They eat ALOT of veggies and fruits and white steamed rice. That's not a low carb diet so that pretty much says it all. Japan in general doesn't have an obesity problem and trust me they do eat plenty. Permanent weight loss shouldn't be based on a fad diet even if it works. It should be based on sound nutrition and be sustainable long term.

My diet isn't perfect and i eat whatever i want pretty much (i do eat healthier them most , always have) and i rarely if ever reach my 50% calories from carb on MFP. For that matter i rarely if ever hit 25% calories from fat or protein. Then again i don't eat to a numbers other then somewhat of a calorie goal. Processed food makes up probably less then 10% of everything i consume. Good Luck..Moderation does NOT mean Deprivation.

Its fact that over the long term that followers of the Atkins plan have a higher incidence of cardiovascular diseases among other problems. . Instead of people eating our innate natural energy supply *(carbohydrates)* they turn to protein which isn't for one the healthiest thing to eat in large quantities and secondly doesn't fuel out bodies energy needs like carbs so. The whole low-carb was schemed up as a way of putting the body in ketosis mode which does burn fat more rapidly but is not necessarily healthy just because of it.

To much protein in ones diet is actually dangerous. Can it assist in weight loss short term. Sure it can. Your starving off your body of its natural fuel source. Its really not the food we have available that is the problem it's the stupid choices people make when building there menu's. It's known that we should limit red meat intake to about once a week and that's no more then 4oz.. Asians don't eat red meat that often and are a way healthier culture then we in the US by miles. They exist primarily on fish, veggies and yes WHITE RICE *carb*. They eat alot of noodles and soups,fruits.( i lived there for 4 years). They don't eat boxed or processed foods. There supermarkets don't have isles and isles of processed trash. They aren't too lazy to cook for themselves or their families like many American's are.

You know Dr. Adkins was a smart businessman. He figured out when a body enters a state of keytosis that it burns fat more rapidly Keytosis is what occurs when people only eat high levels of protein (low carb). His target for his plan were FAT people. Heck he drove it into a low carb revolution which has now pretty much disappeared. Nobody does Adkins anymore. There are a million other diets out there. Somebody mentioned the PALEO diet. That's what i call the caveman diet. It's worse then Adkins personally speaking.

One of the greatest role models for health was( Juiceman) Jack Lalanne. His favorite quote was " If Mother nature doesn't make it , don't eat it" This to the day is the best nutritional advice we could give anybody. What does that leave us? Meat/Fish, Vegetables, and Fruits. That doesn't include boxed trash foods like Mac & Cheese or candy or soda pop or anything machine processed.

Many of the longest living people in the world are from Okinawa Japan. They don't eat hardly any protein fish/meat. (mostly soy protein) They eat ALOT of veggies and fruits and white steamed rice. That's not a low carb diet so that pretty much says it all. Japan in general doesn't have an obesity problem and trust me they do eat plenty. Permanent weight loss shouldn't be based on a fad diet even if it works. It should be based on sound nutrition and be sustainable long term.

My diet isn't perfect and i eat whatever i want pretty much (i do eat healthier them most , always have) and i rarely if ever reach my 50% calories from carb on MFP. For that matter i rarely if ever hit 25% calories from fat or protein. Then again i don't eat to a numbers other then somewhat of a calorie goal. Processed food makes up probably less then 10% of everything i consume. Good Luck..Moderation does NOT mean Deprivation.

I couldn't even finish reading your post. There is so much mis-information in there that it's scary. You should never say things like "it's well known that X......" or "we all know that Y....."

That basically means you heard from a cousin's friend's brother who said it. Either put sources or don't say things like that.

I have a thyroid problem too .... ITS A PAIN IN THE BUTT! I take meds for it that have to be increased every few years and Im now watching what I eat and i exercise everyday (well almost everyday maybe 6/7 days a week sometimes) I think thyroid problems are extremely under diagnosed and more people need to be made aware of it! Good post!!