Legit..is diet soda actally "bad" for you?
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JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?2 -
One link that says it's not that bad can't counter the hundreds that say it's one of the most dangerous things you can ingest2
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Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda2 -
Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
Gotcha. I hear a straw helps with the sipping.0 -
Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
What? 5 minutes between bites but guzzle soda? Lol0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
What? 5 minutes between bites but guzzle soda? Lol
Did you misunderstand me? I said most people don't eat like that. Which is why fruit doesn't typically cause issues.
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JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
I've always been told it's the acids in soda that causes this, more than the sugar content itself. All sodas have carbonic acid [it helps with the carbonation of the soda] while citrus-flavored sodas have citric acid and dark-colored sodas [except for root beer] have phosphoric acid.1 -
jdiehl8282 wrote: »I prefer to drink kombucha tea, it's delicious and low on calories and sugar and has probiotic benefits
How is this different?0 -
jdiehl8282 wrote: »One link that says it's not that bad can't counter the hundreds that say it's one of the most dangerous things you can ingest
I guess you aren't into reading legitimate peer review scientific studies and research since they say it is safe.4 -
Alluminati wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
Gotcha. I hear a straw helps with the sipping.
Yeah but then you trade teeth problems for those tiny wrinkles around your mouth that you get when using a straw.2 -
JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
Couldn't find that article, I have a feeling it may have actually been print media.
Gotcha, so with good oral hygiene it is basically a non-issue. I certainly won't stop drinking diet drinks on this basis, like others have mentioned multiple foods cause this effect not just diet soda.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
Gotcha. I hear a straw helps with the sipping.
Yeah but then you trade teeth problems for those tiny wrinkles around your mouth that you get when using a straw.
You can remedy that by sucking on larger things to stretch your lips out.4 -
Alluminati wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
Gotcha. I hear a straw helps with the sipping.
Yeah but then you trade teeth problems for those tiny wrinkles around your mouth that you get when using a straw.
You can remedy that by sucking on larger things to stretch your lips out.
:noway:
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jdiehl8282 wrote: »One link that says it's not that bad can't counter the hundreds that say it's one of the most dangerous things you can ingest
Aspartame is one of the most studies compounds of all time. It had been ruled safe to consume by every single study. If you have peer reviewed literature that states otherwise, please feel free to post them.5 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
What? 5 minutes between bites but guzzle soda? Lol
Did you misunderstand me? I said most people don't eat like that. Which is why fruit doesn't typically cause issues.
You said, "Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite." I did not misunderstand you. Maybe you wrote it wrong.1 -
carrieellen1 wrote: »I struggle with giving up Diet coke but this is what I know about my drug of choice (that's what i call it)
In a 2 liter bottle there are 6 servings. Each serving containing 46mg of caffeine and 40mg of sodium. drink the entire bottle in a day, which is easy, you have consumed 480 mg of sodium and the added caffeine (in Diet Coke) along with the aspartame increases hunger and drives cravings for things one watching their nutritional intake should not be craving, ergo the overeating addiction increases for soda drinkers.
If that is not enough, the damage it does on your teeth should matter as well. If you are not going to reduce or stop your soda intake, balance it with water.
That is my 2 cents worth at least.
I've been drinking diet soda for about 25 years? When are those cravings going to start? Because so far I haven't had them... Also, what are things one who is watching their nutritional intake shouldn't be craving?1 -
jdiehl8282 wrote: »One link that says it's not that bad can't counter the hundreds that say it's one of the most dangerous things you can ingest
Depends on the link. When the Food and Drug Administration, the World Health Organization, and decades of study say something is okay I will believe those sources before I believe 1,000 links trying to sell "aspartame detox kits."
Here is a small sampling of things MFP users have called "toxic" and/or "bad" with absolutely no evidence:
Artificial sweeteners
Natural sweeteners
GMO fruits and vegetables
non-organic fruits and vegetables
organic fruits and vegetables that have harsh organic pesticides
bananas of all types
potatoes (but not sweet potatoes)
sweet potatoes
Any produce not bought at a farmer's market
all meats
fatty meats
red meats (but sometimes grass-fed beef is okay)
chicken (but sometimes cage free is okay)
eggs
canned tuna
ocean fish
fish from farms
overly processed foods
processed foods
foods that aren't "clean" (with no clear definition of "clean")
gluten
carbs both "good" and "bad"
grains (unless they're whole grain)
"white" foods
...and this is why "peer reviewed studies" and sources are more important than the "average opinion" when deciding if something is harmful or benign.5 -
queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
I was under the impression that sugar caused this? I read a great article lately, it may have been posted in that aspartame thread. That aspartame does not have the same effect on your teeth, and that it basically a myth that sweeteners other than sugar cause damage.
I'll try and find the link, then edit if I find it.
Anyone else?
It's not the artificial sugar with diet soda but the overall pH. Sugar is bad for your teeth bc the bacteria in our mouth consume that sugar and the byproduct is acid. Acid is what creates holes in your teeth.
That being said. You can cause the problem with sugar. Or acid. Constant exposure to Gatorade, pop, etc. anything with an acidic pH on the regular is going to be bad for your teeth.
So that's pretty much fruits and vegetables too, isn't it?
If you were snacking on them constantly and keeping your mouth in an acidic state then yes it could cause issues. Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite. Most people sip on their soda
What? 5 minutes between bites but guzzle soda? Lol
Did you misunderstand me? I said most people don't eat like that. Which is why fruit doesn't typically cause issues.
You said, "Most people just eat a piece of fruit though and not take a bite. Wait 5 or so min take another bite." I did not misunderstand you. Maybe you wrote it wrong.
My punctuation was off. It meant to say most people eat a piece of fruit. NOT take a bite, wait, take a bite, wait. Where as drinking (not for everyone but for many people) they sip over an extended period of time.
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Maybe diet soda should be posted in the Weight Gain forum, there would be no need for weight gain products like Apetamin.5
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Kamikazeflutterby wrote: »jdiehl8282 wrote: »One link that says it's not that bad can't counter the hundreds that say it's one of the most dangerous things you can ingest
Depends on the link. When the Food and Drug Administration, the World Health Organization, and decades of study say something is okay I will believe those sources before I believe 1,000 links trying to sell "aspartame detox kits."
Here is a small sampling of things MFP users have called "toxic" and/or "bad" with absolutely no evidence:
Artificial sweeteners
Natural sweeteners
GMO fruits and vegetables
non-organic fruits and vegetables
organic fruits and vegetables that have harsh organic pesticides
bananas of all types
potatoes (but not sweet potatoes)
sweet potatoes
Any produce not bought at a farmer's market
all meats
fatty meats
red meats (but sometimes grass-fed beef is okay)
chicken (but sometimes cage free is okay)
eggs
canned tuna
ocean fish
fish from farms
overly processed foods
processed foods
foods that aren't "clean" (with no clear definition of "clean")
gluten
carbs both "good" and "bad"
grains (unless they're whole grain)
"white" foods
...and this is why "peer reviewed studies" and sources are more important than the "average opinion" when deciding if something is harmful or benign.
This is the best list since @diannethegeek created her list of definitions for "clean eating"0
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