Legit..is diet soda actally "bad" for you?
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WinoGelato wrote: »Kamikazeflutterby wrote: »jdiehl8282 wrote: »One link that says it's not that bad can't counter the hundreds that say it's one of the most dangerous things you can ingest
Depends on the link. When the Food and Drug Administration, the World Health Organization, and decades of study say something is okay I will believe those sources before I believe 1,000 links trying to sell "aspartame detox kits."
Here is a small sampling of things MFP users have called "toxic" and/or "bad" with absolutely no evidence:
Artificial sweeteners
Natural sweeteners
GMO fruits and vegetables
non-organic fruits and vegetables
organic fruits and vegetables that have harsh organic pesticides
bananas of all types
potatoes (but not sweet potatoes)
sweet potatoes
Any produce not bought at a farmer's market
all meats
fatty meats
red meats (but sometimes grass-fed beef is okay)
chicken (but sometimes cage free is okay)
eggs
canned tuna
ocean fish
fish from farms
overly processed foods
processed foods
foods that aren't "clean" (with no clear definition of "clean")
gluten
carbs both "good" and "bad"
grains (unless they're whole grain)
"white" foods
...and this is why "peer reviewed studies" and sources are more important than the "average opinion" when deciding if something is harmful or benign.
This is the best list since @diannethegeek created her list of definitions for "clean eating"
Considering that list (and damned near everything I've read by her) I'll take that as a high compliment. I don't know how she keeps posting good advice on the same topics without burning out.3 -
You take all this trouble to start a thread with keyword "Legit" - ask a question if certain product is actually bad for you and quote unquote "bad" and then declare "I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely"
What a desperate attention seeker you are.
Considering my 1 post a month, my counter with "what a desperate troll you are" is probably more accurate. At this point I am curious about the teeth issue. Think I'll have to do some research if diet soda is terrible to teeth, because that's a problem I don' know of I can live with. 0 -
You take all this trouble to start a thread with keyword "Legit" - ask a question if certain product is actually bad for you and quote unquote "bad" and then declare "I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely"
What a desperate attention seeker you are. Considering my 1 post a month, my counter with "what a desperate troll you are" is probably more accurate. At this point I am curious about the teeth issue. Think I'll have to do some research if diet soda is terrible to teeth, because that's a problem I don' know of I can live with.
You could put in a quick call to your dentist.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »It's a roll of the dice, as with anything artificial it may affect your health negatively or it may not, you'll just have to wait and see.
Personally I never have and never will drink diet soda, and drink regular soda only a few times a year. I'm erring on the side of caution on this one..
Edited: for typo
What does "artificial" have to do with it?0 -
carrieellen1 wrote: »I struggle with giving up Diet coke but this is what I know about my drug of choice (that's what i call it)
In a 2 liter bottle there are 6 servings. Each serving containing 46mg of caffeine and 40mg of sodium. drink the entire bottle in a day, which is easy, you have consumed 480 mg of sodium and the added caffeine (in Diet Coke) along with the aspartame increases hunger and drives cravings for things one watching their nutritional intake should not be craving, ergo the overeating addiction increases for soda drinkers.
If that is not enough, the damage it does on your teeth should matter as well. If you are not going to reduce or stop your soda intake, balance it with water.
That is my 2 cents worth at least.
I've been drinking diet soda for over fifteen years and I've lost 90 lbs in 51 weeks still drinking diet soda with zero increased hunger or cravings. How many decades is it supposed to take for this increased hunger and cravings to occur in everyone that drinks it??1 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »carrieellen1 wrote: »I struggle with giving up Diet coke but this is what I know about my drug of choice (that's what i call it)
In a 2 liter bottle there are 6 servings. Each serving containing 46mg of caffeine and 40mg of sodium. drink the entire bottle in a day, which is easy, you have consumed 480 mg of sodium and the added caffeine (in Diet Coke) along with the aspartame increases hunger and drives cravings for things one watching their nutritional intake should not be craving, ergo the overeating addiction increases for soda drinkers.
If that is not enough, the damage it does on your teeth should matter as well. If you are not going to reduce or stop your soda intake, balance it with water.
That is my 2 cents worth at least.
I've been drinking diet soda for over fifteen years and I've lost 90 lbs in 51 weeks still drinking diet soda with zero increased hunger or cravings. How many decades is it supposed to take for this increased hunger and cravings to occur in everyone that drinks it??
I've got 25 years under my Diet Coke belt so you're safe for at least another 10...
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WinoGelato wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »carrieellen1 wrote: »I struggle with giving up Diet coke but this is what I know about my drug of choice (that's what i call it)
In a 2 liter bottle there are 6 servings. Each serving containing 46mg of caffeine and 40mg of sodium. drink the entire bottle in a day, which is easy, you have consumed 480 mg of sodium and the added caffeine (in Diet Coke) along with the aspartame increases hunger and drives cravings for things one watching their nutritional intake should not be craving, ergo the overeating addiction increases for soda drinkers.
If that is not enough, the damage it does on your teeth should matter as well. If you are not going to reduce or stop your soda intake, balance it with water.
That is my 2 cents worth at least.
I've been drinking diet soda for over fifteen years and I've lost 90 lbs in 51 weeks still drinking diet soda with zero increased hunger or cravings. How many decades is it supposed to take for this increased hunger and cravings to occur in everyone that drinks it??
I've got 25 years under my Diet Coke belt so you're safe for at least another 10...
I double dog dare you. 45 years for me. Tab was the devil of choice!4 -
I'll save you the trouble. The dentist will say that drinking pop isn't great for your teeth. So, if the OP isn't too legit to quit, limiting the intake of it is a good idea. When I was drinking pop, I was given special toothpaste by the dentist.queenliz99 wrote: »You take all this trouble to start a thread with keyword "Legit" - ask a question if certain product is actually bad for you and quote unquote "bad" and then declare "I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely"
What a desperate attention seeker you are. Considering my 1 post a month, my counter with "what a desperate troll you are" is probably more accurate. At this point I am curious about the teeth issue. Think I'll have to do some research if diet soda is terrible to teeth, because that's a problem I don' know of I can live with.
You could put in a quick call to your dentist.
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I'll save you the trouble. The dentist will say that drinking pop isn't great for your teeth. So, if the OP isn't too legit to quit, limiting the intake of it is a good idea. When I was drinking pop, I was given special toothpaste by the dentist.queenliz99 wrote: »You take all this trouble to start a thread with keyword "Legit" - ask a question if certain product is actually bad for you and quote unquote "bad" and then declare "I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely"
What a desperate attention seeker you are. Considering my 1 post a month, my counter with "what a desperate troll you are" is probably more accurate. At this point I am curious about the teeth issue. Think I'll have to do some research if diet soda is terrible to teeth, because that's a problem I don' know of I can live with.
You could put in a quick call to your dentist.
Nope. I have been drinking diet soda my whole life and have perfect teeth. Shrug1 -
If one is taking care of their teeth after every meal, than what's the harm?First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
Good oral hygiene helps to keep it in check. Personally I've drank at least 2 diet sodas a day (along with water) and haven't had any issues with my teeth for over 30 years.
And please link the issue about pH being lowered by just taking a sip. Studying physiology, the body is very good at regulating pH on it's own. That's why diets that claim to change acidic to alkaline are full of crap.
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Same here. Cheers <clinks Diet Pepsi with your Diet Coke>WinoGelato wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »carrieellen1 wrote: »I struggle with giving up Diet coke but this is what I know about my drug of choice (that's what i call it)
In a 2 liter bottle there are 6 servings. Each serving containing 46mg of caffeine and 40mg of sodium. drink the entire bottle in a day, which is easy, you have consumed 480 mg of sodium and the added caffeine (in Diet Coke) along with the aspartame increases hunger and drives cravings for things one watching their nutritional intake should not be craving, ergo the overeating addiction increases for soda drinkers.
If that is not enough, the damage it does on your teeth should matter as well. If you are not going to reduce or stop your soda intake, balance it with water.
That is my 2 cents worth at least.
I've been drinking diet soda for over fifteen years and I've lost 90 lbs in 51 weeks still drinking diet soda with zero increased hunger or cravings. How many decades is it supposed to take for this increased hunger and cravings to occur in everyone that drinks it??
I've got 25 years under my Diet Coke belt so you're safe for at least another 10...
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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If one is taking care of their teeth after every meal, than what's the harm?First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
Good oral hygiene helps to keep it in check. Personally I've drank at least 2 diet sodas a day (along with water) and haven't had any issues with my teeth for over 30 years.
And please link the issue about pH being lowered by just taking a sip. Studying physiology, the body is very good at regulating pH on it's own. That's why diets that claim to change acidic to alkaline are full of crap.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You took some sting off the "oh god what have I done to my teeth" thoughts I was having..still need to look into it tho.0 -
If one is taking care of their teeth after every meal, than what's the harm?First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
Good oral hygiene helps to keep it in check. Personally I've drank at least 2 diet sodas a day (along with water) and haven't had any issues with my teeth for over 30 years.
And please link the issue about pH being lowered by just taking a sip. Studying physiology, the body is very good at regulating pH on it's own. That's why diets that claim to change acidic to alkaline are full of crap.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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You took some sting off the "oh god what have I done to my teeth" thoughts I was having..still need to look into it tho.
You'll see soda drinkers with rotten teeth and non soda drinkers with rotten teeth. As long as you keep on top of your oral hygiene you 'should' be ok. I'm not a dentist though so i could be completely wrong. I drink a lot of tea and I swish with water a couple times after each cup and give my teeth a light brush after every third cup, it's become an easy habit to get into.0 -
If one is taking care of their teeth after every meal, than what's the harm?First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
Good oral hygiene helps to keep it in check. Personally I've drank at least 2 diet sodas a day (along with water) and haven't had any issues with my teeth for over 30 years.
And please link the issue about pH being lowered by just taking a sip. Studying physiology, the body is very good at regulating pH on it's own. That's why diets that claim to change acidic to alkaline are full of crap.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Just to add to this, you should not under any circumstances be brushing your teeth within 30 minutes of eating or drinking anything. Mouth acids soften teeth enamel slightly and immediate brushing while ph is high can cause damage.
If you absolutely have to try eating some cheese / drinking milk first to neutralise mouth acids0 -
One main thing I do after eating........................just rinse my mouth with water. That way it loosens anything stuck in my teeth (especially before seeing clients).
If one is taking care of their teeth after every meal, than what's the harm?First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
Good oral hygiene helps to keep it in check. Personally I've drank at least 2 diet sodas a day (along with water) and haven't had any issues with my teeth for over 30 years.
And please link the issue about pH being lowered by just taking a sip. Studying physiology, the body is very good at regulating pH on it's own. That's why diets that claim to change acidic to alkaline are full of crap.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Just to add to this, you should not under any circumstances be brushing your teeth within 30 minutes of eating or drinking anything. Mouth acids soften teeth enamel slightly and immediate brushing while ph is high can cause damage.
If you absolutely have to try eating some cheese / drinking milk first to neutralise mouth acids
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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One main thing I do after eating........................just rinse my mouth with water. That way it loosens anything stuck in my teeth (especially before seeing clients).
If one is taking care of their teeth after every meal, than what's the harm?First off, "just drink water instead" is not helpful here, lol. I've been drinking about 40-70oz of diet mountain dew a day, lately. I don't even log it because it's mostly calorie free, and I enjoy it so I'm probably not going to stop drinking it entirely.
Do you think its alright to drink this much? Gogle yields very mixed results..just curious what the average opinion is.
Its not great for you. But it's your life. As a dental hygienist I can only tell you what awful damage you are doing to your teeth. It takes your mouth 20 minutes to buffer the pH back to neutral. so every time you take a sip it's bringing the pH down. And the amount you are having a day is quite a bit. If you were my patient I would strongly encourage you to stop also ask you dentist about MI paste. It can help remineralize some of the damage that might have been caused.
Good oral hygiene helps to keep it in check. Personally I've drank at least 2 diet sodas a day (along with water) and haven't had any issues with my teeth for over 30 years.
And please link the issue about pH being lowered by just taking a sip. Studying physiology, the body is very good at regulating pH on it's own. That's why diets that claim to change acidic to alkaline are full of crap.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Just to add to this, you should not under any circumstances be brushing your teeth within 30 minutes of eating or drinking anything. Mouth acids soften teeth enamel slightly and immediate brushing while ph is high can cause damage.
If you absolutely have to try eating some cheese / drinking milk first to neutralise mouth acids
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Won't affect PH though ...leave the 30 mins before brushing0
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