Bcaas?

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  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
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    cgvet37 wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since using Amino Energy during my workouts. I get plenty of Protein as well. Studies have shown that amino acids in raw form are more beneficial.

    Citation needed. If you are getting adequate protein then BCAAs will do 1/10th of jack squat.

    Every single study that shows a benefit to BCAAS compares it to low protein.
  • cgvet37
    cgvet37 Posts: 1,189 Member
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    cgvet37 wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since using Amino Energy during my workouts. I get plenty of Protein as well. Studies have shown that amino acids in raw form are more beneficial.

    Citation needed. If you are getting adequate protein then BCAAs will do 1/10th of jack squat.

    Every single study that shows a benefit to BCAAS compares it to low protein.

    Here are two articles with a similar thesis.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html

    http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/amino_articles_aminoacidcomplex.aspx
  • ReeGzusmc
    ReeGzusmc Posts: 2 Member
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    I've used BCAAs for a few years now as part of my supplement plan. I def feel it helps intra workout for intense training, And even when I go for longer runs... While it may not be a "Game changing" supplement, I would say if your budget allows you to add some BCAAs into the mix, it will only help. If your muscles feel shot, there are good BCAA supps out there that also contain some good muscle recovery ingredients like electrolytes and L-Glutamine. There is one out there by 5% nutrition called "All Day You May". Check it out..
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
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    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since using Amino Energy during my workouts. I get plenty of Protein as well. Studies have shown that amino acids in raw form are more beneficial.

    Citation needed. If you are getting adequate protein then BCAAs will do 1/10th of jack squat.

    Every single study that shows a benefit to BCAAS compares it to low protein.

    Here are two articles with a similar thesis.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html

    http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/amino_articles_aminoacidcomplex.aspx

    Two companies that sell BCAAS touting the benefit of BCAAS. Shocking.

    The actual science says otherwise.

  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
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    I've lifted weights off and on. Once, I started lifting regularly, made sure I was getting 1g / lb. of goal weight AND took BCAA's. A different time, I started lifting regularly after a long break, got the same protein, but no BCAA's. I noticed much faster progression when taking BCAA's. That might be "newbie gains," except the break of several months between training programs (and the training programs were identical) should have led to "newbie gains" as well. Your results might not be the same as mine, but BCAA's made a noticeable difference for me.
  • cgvet37
    cgvet37 Posts: 1,189 Member
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    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since using Amino Energy during my workouts. I get plenty of Protein as well. Studies have shown that amino acids in raw form are more beneficial.

    Citation needed. If you are getting adequate protein then BCAAs will do 1/10th of jack squat.

    Every single study that shows a benefit to BCAAS compares it to low protein.

    Here are two articles with a similar thesis.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html

    http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/amino_articles_aminoacidcomplex.aspx

    Two companies that sell BCAAS touting the benefit of BCAAS. Shocking.

    The actual science says otherwise.

    Then show us some actual science.
  • Mycophilia
    Mycophilia Posts: 1,225 Member
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    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since using Amino Energy during my workouts. I get plenty of Protein as well. Studies have shown that amino acids in raw form are more beneficial.

    Citation needed. If you are getting adequate protein then BCAAs will do 1/10th of jack squat.

    Every single study that shows a benefit to BCAAS compares it to low protein.

    Here are two articles with a similar thesis.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html

    http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/amino_articles_aminoacidcomplex.aspx

    Two companies that sell BCAAS touting the benefit of BCAAS. Shocking.

    The actual science says otherwise.

    Then show us some actual science.

    http://examine.com/supplements/Branched+Chain+Amino+Acids/ should suffice.
  • rderrickwhite
    rderrickwhite Posts: 69 Member
    edited July 2016
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    These debates are counter intuitive. With the right diet you can forego most supplements. You can get adequate BCCAA's from eating protein, But the fact is that most people have trouble eating a gram of protein per lb of lean body weight, timed out correctly, let alone a gram per lb... If you can and do, then you don't need the supplement. If you don't, then you may benefit from the supplement. I find that a scoop of BCAA and a scoop of Glutamine during work out and right before bed time helps with soreness and fatigue... Maybe that is bro science, maybe not. I'm not a scientist.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
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    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since using Amino Energy during my workouts. I get plenty of Protein as well. Studies have shown that amino acids in raw form are more beneficial.

    Citation needed. If you are getting adequate protein then BCAAs will do 1/10th of jack squat.

    Every single study that shows a benefit to BCAAS compares it to low protein.

    Here are two articles with a similar thesis.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html

    http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/amino_articles_aminoacidcomplex.aspx

    Two companies that sell BCAAS touting the benefit of BCAAS. Shocking.

    The actual science says otherwise.

    Then show us some actual science.

    Here's another one discussing where one of the BCAA studies went wrong.

    https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-016-0128-9
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    edited July 2016
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    To continue the downward spiral of this conversation...

    My feeling is that BCAAs only offer actual benefit when doing significant training under meaningfully fasted conditions while in an overall calorie deficit. And even then, the benefits are pretty minor. So like many things beyond CICO, it's really conversation about degrees of ideal/optimal.

    It's not that they are some miracle product. Taking them won't suddenly supercharge your progress, nor will not taking them halt all your gains. But if you're doing everything else right, AND you're looking for the most optimal progress possible, then they might be worth considering.

    Again, to restate what I said before... I view them much like a multivitamin. Do I really need them? No, probably not. Is it hurting me to take them? No, probably not. I don't drink coffee, so I do a BCAA/caffeine combo in the mornings, and I'm good with that.
  • Spartan557
    Spartan557 Posts: 8 Member
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    If you use whey protein isolates or casein or other protein suppliments, many cones with BCAAs in them already
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,508 Member
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    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    cgvet37 wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since using Amino Energy during my workouts. I get plenty of Protein as well. Studies have shown that amino acids in raw form are more beneficial.

    Citation needed. If you are getting adequate protein then BCAAs will do 1/10th of jack squat.

    Every single study that shows a benefit to BCAAS compares it to low protein.

    Here are two articles with a similar thesis.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html

    http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/amino_articles_aminoacidcomplex.aspx

    Two companies that sell BCAAS touting the benefit of BCAAS. Shocking.

    The actual science says otherwise.

    Then show us some actual science.
    Well they sure they don't help with marathons.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24477835


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  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
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    Spartan557 wrote: »
    If you use whey protein isolates or casein or other protein suppliments, many cones with BCAAs in them already

    They all do. Any complete protein contains BCAAS and other amino acids.
  • tysonn88rosen
    tysonn88rosen Posts: 16 Member
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    Feelings on BCAA as an intra?
    Any significant pros?