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  • Redwineandmuscles
    Redwineandmuscles Posts: 46 Member
    MorganMoreaux wrote: »
    Afura wrote: »
    brb_2013 wrote: »
    You have to find ways to deal with the emotions, instead of distracting away from them.
    I don't agree with this. Sometimes it's not a matter of dealing with a single emotion, or not a specific emotion. Sometimes you just want say bleep it, and have a few beers (or rum and coke for me) to relax, tune out the world whatever. I find distracting myself away from the bad things is a better turn for me. Play a video game, read a book, go for a drive. When I'm at home I tend to be able to snap myself out of it by bringing up MFP and looking at the calories I have left.

    Edit: If it's a continual ongoing issue, absolutely dealing with the problem is the best thing. The above was a 'now and again' thing.

    It's different for alcoholics. Some people can't have a few drinks and stop, it spirals out of control. The last thing an alcoholic needs to hear is permission to go have a few drinks when they're feeling weak. I was able to get sober for a few years and then went through a hard time. Friends who didn't know I had an alcohol problem kept trying to get me to have a few drinks to relax. I finally gave in and then went on a two year bender. I had to go back to rehab as I can't stop one I start. It wasn't my friend's fault, and I'm not saying that elphie is in the same position, but in case she is, it's terrible advice so give someone who is goes to AA. I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful as you may not know too much about alcoholism. Sometimes, if an alcoholic is feeling down, that external suggestion is enough of a validation to go ahead and drink. I know it's not rational but neither is alcoholism.
    MorganMoreaux wrote: »
    Afura wrote: »
    brb_2013 wrote: »
    You have to find ways to deal with the emotions, instead of distracting away from them.
    I don't agree with this. Sometimes it's not a matter of dealing with a single emotion, or not a specific emotion. Sometimes you just want say bleep it, and have a few beers (or rum and coke for me) to relax, tune out the world whatever. I find distracting myself away from the bad things is a better turn for me. Play a video game, read a book, go for a drive. When I'm at home I tend to be able to snap myself out of it by bringing up MFP and looking at the calories I have left.

    Edit: If it's a continual ongoing issue, absolutely dealing with the problem is the best thing. The above was a 'now and again' thing.

    It's different for alcoholics. Some people can't have a few drinks and stop, it spirals out of control. The last thing an alcoholic needs to hear is permission to go have a few drinks when they're feeling weak. I was able to get sober for a few years and then went through a hard time. Friends who didn't know I had an alcohol problem kept trying to get me to have a few drinks to relax. I finally gave in and then went on a two year bender. I had to go back to rehab as I can't stop one I start. It wasn't my friend's fault, and I'm not saying that elphie is in the same position, but in case she is, it's terrible advice so give someone who is goes to AA. I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful as you may not know too much about alcoholism. Sometimes, if an alcoholic is feeling down, that external suggestion is enough of a validation to go ahead and drink. I know it's not rational but neither is alcoholism.

    I just wanted to suggest here that one can research the Sinclair Method or pharmaceutical extinction, since you mentioned nalproxine. This is not a suitable treatment for someone who is sober, but I just wanted to throw it out there in case anyone reading this is looking for alternative and effective treatment.
  • MorganMoreaux
    MorganMoreaux Posts: 691 Member
    Redwineandmuscles wrote: »
    I just wanted to suggest here that one can research the Sinclair Method or pharmaceutical extinction, since you mentioned nalproxine. This is not a suitable treatment for someone who is sober, but I just wanted to throw it out there in case anyone reading this is looking for alternative and effective treatment.


    Wow - I can't believe you resurrected a necrothread to disagree with my advice. I have no idea what nalproxine is, not so obviously I didn't recommend that. I recommended Vivitrol which naltrexone, and it's perfectly fine to use in sobriety if you are having issues with cravings and may relapse. Yes, this is perfectly acceptable advice for somebody that is sober.

    Regarding the method you recommended, many addicts are in the position that they cannot control their consumption once the begin using. A method that requires somebody to take naltrexone before each drinking session seems counter productive, as getting free from addiction is really more about resolving the underlying issues motivating use, not so much about just stopping use. This method seems like it's giving the use a free pass to drink reply and also not deal with the underlying issues, so essentially they remain stagnant and don't progress forward as a human and as a person in recovery. Honestly, that sound like a special level of hell to me.

    As somebody who struggled for seven years to break the addiction cycle, I can honestly say if you drink enough, you can break the through the block that the naltrexone pill imposes - so it's totally possible to "cheat" the method. I did it countless times when trying to quit. Vivitrol is more difficult to cheat, but still possible.

    Naltrexone is perfectly safe to give to somebody who is sober. There are many uses for naltrexone outside of drug addiction. Vivitrol does stop cravings in sobriety, I have gotten the shot as insurance during difficult times.
    While Sinclair method may be effective for people in early stage alcoholism, but not middle or late stage alcoholism. There are many other resources available that much more wholistic and rational than Sinclair - a great alternative to 12 step programs is Smart Recovery. Unfortunately, recovering from addiction requires dedication and hard work to fix the underlying issues responsible for addiction, it's not a simple as just popping a pill. If addiction we just about stopping drug/alcohol use people wouldn't struggle and relapse as much as they do.

    Last thing I'll say is you do realize you recommended the the OP, who has struggled with addiction and got sober, give in to her cravings and use - that's very irresponsible advice.


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