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Is Plexus.... a cult or what?
CindyFooWho
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I'm sure that if you're into it, my subject line alone horrified you. Because I've never seen a group of people be so insane over....not sure what it is... a bunch of vitamin drinks? I mean, I don't particularly care because I prefer to get my nutrition from food. Eating is just generally more fun for me. But I have a Facebook friend who sells it or is somehow involved with it, and is pushing it every stinkin day. And it's starting to smell like a heavy marketing, if not a pyramid, if not brainwashing, scheme. She's a sweet lady, but I have to get her out of my newsfeed before I say something I shouldn't. The daily story is that her life was crap before but now she is smarter, more alert, more able to eat right and able to go to the gym because of this magic elixir. It's sad. You can do all of that without chemicals in a glass.
Please do correct me if I'm wrong. I respect the opinions of many on here, so if there is legit data to support this craziness, I'd be interested to hear about it. I'm still not buying it, but since it's in my face every day, I'm curious what you all think.
Please do correct me if I'm wrong. I respect the opinions of many on here, so if there is legit data to support this craziness, I'd be interested to hear about it. I'm still not buying it, but since it's in my face every day, I'm curious what you all think.
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I just googled "Plexus Scam" and there are a number of links. I read a woman's review where she said chest pains were a side effect. There's a guy who took it apart in a video pretty well. If it's an MLM, I know it's a scam.
Some of these hopeful MLM people go to a lot of meetings, read lots of motivational materials, even listen to motivational recordings all the time. So a culty mentality isn't difficult to imagine. (My ex-husband joined Amway and it was difficult to deal with. He seemed totally brainwashed into their way of thinking and to this day he blames his failure on me not being supportive or part of the "business")7 -
I see that with most people who buy into MLM type companies. They like the product and get duped into selling it because they'll get a discount, but they also get told they'll make lots of money. They become fanatics because it gets harder and harder to make money. I see this with the essential oil companies, scentsy, isagenix, beachbody, itworks, plexus, pruvit, and so on. Your friend has realized that she needs this product to sound like a miracle in order to make sales.
I don't trust the word of anyone who stands to make money from the thing they are promoting.14 -
I see that with most people who buy into MLM type companies. They like the product and get duped into selling it because they'll get a discount, but they also get told they'll make lots of money. They become fanatics because it gets harder and harder to make money. I see this with the essential oil companies, scentsy, isagenix, beachbody, itworks, plexus, pruvit, and so on. Your friend has realized that she needs this product to sound like a miracle in order to make sales.
I don't trust the word of anyone who stands to make money from the thing they are promoting.
Any program works if it's followed. It's sustaining it that's the issue for the masses and why weight regain happens to 90% of people who try it.
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I think this link can explain anything that you would want to know about the product and the company (it's a little biased but she really pulls no punches):
http://www.plexuspoint.com/plexus-slim-reviews/2 -
My wife's cousin sells ItWorks. I've had to unfollow her on FB because that's all she posts about. Pathetic.12
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itWorks should be called "it doesn't work"!15
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I too know someone who sells plexus and lot of her social media pushes the company/product. I typically would unfollow someone who uses their social media to promote something their selling. If you make a separate page or website for that then that's fine. But from what i read about plexus I figured it's the same as shakeology.0
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Thanks, this helps. You know, every day I'm silently shaking my head at her posts but then I thought, well maybe I'm wrong, I don't really know anything about it. (But I'd never ask her!)6
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Any position where part of your 'job' is selling to friends/family and spamming your social media feeds, is just a bad business model, IMO. Legitimate businesses don't have to do that.20
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I started Plexxus to help with my migraines, and it has been helpful. My obgyn looked at some of my supplements, and she said they are a great source of folic acid and other nutrients. I can't say it has helped my weight loss, but it has helped with my energy levels and overall health.9
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Good2BMegs85 wrote: »I started Plexxus to help with my migraines, and it has been helpful. My obgyn looked at some of my supplements, and she said they are a great source of folic acid and other nutrients. I can't say it has helped my weight loss, but it has helped with my energy levels and overall health.
Strong first post.....28 -
I take plexus products, and honestly it really has improved my health. It is not miraculous, of course, but the products are high quality and work. She may have been impacted a lot. People who start taking supplements who never have taken any before DO feel drastically better. A good probiotic, magnesium, and chromium based supplement are hardly scams, you can research them yourself. And It's not a meal replacement, like shakeology. Don't freak out at her for sharing! Lol! It doesn't work for everyone, I'm sure... But it does really work for some. I love to gush about the trim healthy mama way of eating (and don't get paid) because it's been life changing. I love to gush about classical conversations homeschooling... And don't get paid. Plexus changed my health around without my changing any part of my diet... and I would gush about it (and I CAN get paid, so why not ..). She really might actually be feeling as good as she says she does, I was a skeptic. So honestly I would just ignore it and move on, if you don't like it... I did with my friends for a long time. but she might not be kidding about how she feels! just saying!5
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BethanyFrench wrote: »I take plexus products, and honestly it really has improved my health. It is not miraculous, of course, but the products are high quality and work. She may have been impacted a lot. People who start taking supplements who never have taken any before DO feel drastically better. A good probiotic, magnesium, and chromium based supplement are hardly scams, you can research them yourself. And It's not a meal replacement, like shakeology. Don't freak out at her for sharing! Lol! It doesn't work for everyone, I'm sure... But it does really work for some. I love to gush about the trim healthy mama way of eating (and don't get paid) because it's been life changing. I love to gush about classical conversations homeschooling... And don't get paid. Plexus changed my health around without my changing any part of my diet... and I would gush about it (and I CAN get paid, so why not ..). She really might actually be feeling as good as she says she does, I was a skeptic. So honestly I would just ignore it and move on, if you don't like it... I did with my friends for a long time. but she might not be kidding about how she feels! just saying!
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It's a cult. /thread
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For what it's worth, Plexus products have been life changing for my family. My husband suffered from chronic neck pain for 20 years and he is now almost pain free. That is the only change he made. He doesn't need to lose weight and doesn't take it for weight loss. My daughter couldn't tolerate gluten or dairy but after being on the probiotic for several months she can now eat anything the other kids can, and doesn't have daily stomach aches or headaches. I had tried lots of supplements and other brands of probiotics with no results. It's not a miracle cure but they are simply high quality supplements that really do help some people with chronic health issues. I think some people go overboard with promoting it. It's not a pyramid scheme, though. That is illegal.2
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The Plexus Compensation Scheme is the absolute definition of a pyramid scheme. Read it yourself:
http://www.plexusworldwide.com/img/Comp Plan Overview.pdf15 -
Have you noticed the pro brigade have very few posts.......10
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minniemoo1972 wrote: »Have you noticed the pro brigade have very few posts.......
I've noticed this with Weight Watchers as well, even though WW isn't an MLM. Some people I also noticed only posted in WW threads & defended complaints against it, as if you insulted their child; it'd be that intense of a defense. Which leads me to believe that some of them are WW employees, own their stock and/or both.0 -
The Plexus Compensation Scheme is the absolute definition of a pyramid scheme. Read it yourself:
http://www.plexusworldwide.com/img/Comp Plan Overview.pdf
A true "pyramid scheme" is illegal, because money is earned simply for signing people up. Plexxus appears to be just your run-of-the-mill MLM, where bonuses are paid on sales volume; but the volume is stacked pyramidally. Interestingly enough - these plans work the BEST, when you don't succeed. In other words, you bust your butt to sign people up and encourage them to buy product. Eventually, you realize that you are still spending more on product and "functions" than you are earning, so you quit. Your downline then becomes the property of the person above you - and they didn't have to do anything other than pump you up.
Ironically, *some* MLMs (especially the health-leaning ones because they are impossible to accurately compare results) were formed by former Amway Distributors who got kicked out of Amway for abusing the rules....LOL!! When their current MLM fails - they'll just start a new one. The blueprint is already there - all they need is a new "hip" name, a product, and a few people to drink the purple Koolade.
The other problem with MLMs is that their product information is given orally, through presentations at functions, etc. That's when insane claims of "cancer prevention/cures", MS cures", etc etc etc are often *heard* - but the company is smart enough to never write that kind of stuff down because they'd be shut down by the Feds in a heartbeat. The "cure for ________ (fill in any troublesome disease)" will probably NOT be discovered by some obscure "Dr" who refuses to share it through the normal supply chain nor publish their findings in a peer-reviewed Journal.13 -
@grannynot Fair enough; how about the term "really crappy business model for anyone except those at the top."4
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@grannynot Fair enough; how about the term "really crappy business model for anyone except those at the top."
LOL!! I'll grant you that!1 -
I havent started plexus yet but plan to. I have a friend that sells it and started because of life changing experience she had. She been selling for about 3 years and her results are amazing. She is pregnant with her 3rd child as we speak and is still using plexus doctor recommended. I have friends that use it for their adhd children and has worked so well they got to drop the medicine they were taking for it. My mother who has struggled with constant pain most of her life started plexus and came off her medicine. I have several friends that no longer take insulin due to plexus. I have a hard time believe that this is a scam when I seen amazing results from very close friends of mine. Plexus isn't for weight loss it is for over all health and in process of getting healthy and your body regular it causes weight loss.2
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I havent started plexus yet but plan to. I have a friend that sells it and started because of life changing experience she had. She been selling for about 3 years and her results are amazing. She is pregnant with her 3rd child as we speak and is still using plexus doctor recommended. I have friends that use it for their adhd children and has worked so well they got to drop the medicine they were taking for it. My mother who has struggled with constant pain most of her life started plexus and came off her medicine. I have several friends that no longer take insulin due to plexus. I have a hard time believe that this is a scam when I seen amazing results from very close friends of mine. Plexus isn't for weight loss it is for over all health and in process of getting healthy and your body regular it causes weight loss.
So, you fell for her schpeal, huh? No possible way diet and exercise could have any effect on these miraculous results? Losing weight can help with insulin and joint pain, and the complexities of the developing brain can mitigate some ADHD symptoms. I also give serious doubt as to the competence of a doctor that recommends Plexus, It Works, or any other snake oil scheme...
But what do I know? I've only lost 87 pounds through CI vs. CO. Silly me...13 -
milkmaid1980 wrote: »For what it's worth, Plexus products have been life changing for my family. My husband suffered from chronic neck pain for 20 years and he is now almost pain free. That is the only change he made. He doesn't need to lose weight and doesn't take it for weight loss. My daughter couldn't tolerate gluten or dairy but after being on the probiotic for several months she can now eat anything the other kids can, and doesn't have daily stomach aches or headaches. I had tried lots of supplements and other brands of probiotics with no results. It's not a miracle cure but they are simply high quality supplements that really do help some people with chronic health issues. I think some people go overboard with promoting it. It's not a pyramid scheme, though. That is illegal.
This statement right here is what worries me. If my body is rejecting a type of food for some reason... I'd rather find out "why", get to the root of the problem vs. putting on a band aid. This is the problem with our entire health care system (in the US), our doctors are not trained to look for the cause they are trained to just treat the symptom! Also... so what happens next? Do you have to take these pills for the rest of your life? Here's a news flash... your daughter can't tolerate dairy because milk is for baby cows, not for human consumption. Do some research. Sorry if I sound harsh... I can't stand it when folks say "I was able to take this (insert product name here), and not change 'anything' about my diet..? Really? Good luck with that.
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Sheep!
I am a LNC (holistic / general / sports), and I was doing an assessment on a woman I know. She's overweight with some underlying medical issues due to the weight and she was looking for a good start and information on a healthy eating plan, etc... But then she found Plexus and started taking that. I haven't heard from her again but every post I see of hers on Facebook is the same... Starting over again... ugh!2 -
Here you go: http://www.plexuspoint.com/plexus-slim-review-2014/
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I'm sorry you feel the need to mock my opinion.I have seen plexus work with in family and friends. So no its not something my friend has pulled over my eyes to get me to buy her product. As I said plexus isn't weight loss it's regulating blood sugars getting you health from in side out.. It's not a diet pill it's more of vitamin supplement and there is actually alot of doctors that are saying it is okay to tske while pregnant. Actually better then prenatal vitamin because with its make up the body absorbs more and it holds more folic acid. I'm sure having done a amazing job at losing weight then you know normal vitamin are a waste of time unless your buying the expensive mineral kind because the body doesn't absorb it very well. Once again I do support plexus and people thinkin that there gonna buy it and lose all this weight in a month your gonna be disappointed because it's not weight loss. It's over all health. I been watching and looking in to this product for 3 years. Working in Healthcare I seen alot of products plans shots come and go claiming weight loss. I seen best results from plexus.2
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Cool haven't gotten through half the page, and found out this product helps unborn babies, gluten allergy, lactose allergy, chronic neck pain, diabetes, and so on. This stuff is a miracle worker that no doctor knows about! Oh I forgot about joint pain, and ADHD!16
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cushman5279 wrote: »milkmaid1980 wrote: »For what it's worth, Plexus products have been life changing for my family. My husband suffered from chronic neck pain for 20 years and he is now almost pain free. That is the only change he made. He doesn't need to lose weight and doesn't take it for weight loss. My daughter couldn't tolerate gluten or dairy but after being on the probiotic for several months she can now eat anything the other kids can, and doesn't have daily stomach aches or headaches. I had tried lots of supplements and other brands of probiotics with no results. It's not a miracle cure but they are simply high quality supplements that really do help some people with chronic health issues. I think some people go overboard with promoting it. It's not a pyramid scheme, though. That is illegal.
This statement right here is what worries me. If my body is rejecting a type of food for some reason... I'd rather find out "why", get to the root of the problem vs. putting on a band aid. This is the problem with our entire health care system (in the US), our doctors are not trained to look for the cause they are trained to just treat the symptom! Also... so what happens next? Do you have to take these pills for the rest of your life? Here's a news flash... your daughter can't tolerate dairy because milk is for baby cows, not for human consumption. Do some research. Sorry if I sound harsh... I can't stand it when folks say "I was able to take this (insert product name here), and not change 'anything' about my diet..? Really? Good luck with that.
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