Why is shirtless running ok only if you "have the right body type"?
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If someone is confident enough to get out in public, exercise and go shirtless more power to them. I am trying to raise my children to love their bodies without developing self hate. Nothing gross or sexual about a man without a shirt or a woman in a sports bra. Wish I had the confidence in my own body to go without a shirt as it sure would be cooler some of these 90+ temperature days.12
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Lol, you guys need to come to SF and watch some people here run in swim suits or ride a bike nekkid on a DAILY basis.
People will either stare in shock or laugh. But in the end, how much did it really affect someone's life? It doesn't affect anyone's relationship, job, money, etc. so why even bother to worry or care about it?
It's not a place of business, it's someone running outside to keep physically fit. No laws are being broken, and if it's makes you uncomfortable, then isn't it more your problem then?
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Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
To each their own, but I don't think emotional maturity has anything to do with it. You've said that you would not want your daughter's friends to see your shirtless body, and then provide room for discussion. How do you feel about going to the water park or beach? Every time I'm at the beach, I see multiple families out enjoying the water. Men wear no shirts, and women wear bathing suits...all of this done in the presence of their children and other children. Should a man have to wear a shirt or a woman wear a shirt over their bathing suit at the beach? Does that somehow harm the children?
With all due respect, I think it's silly to say someone lacks emotional maturity simply because they run in the heat without a shirt on.
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Alluminati wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
When I was a teenager and woman in her early 20s, I do not recall being emotionally scarred by the sight of an exposed chest or back belonging to a man over 35. I'm really not sure why this is something you find so inappropriate. Maybe men just get hot, and it's not necessarily a form of peacocking?
I don't think that poster was implying that the young ladies would be emotionally scarred. He was implying that the 20 yr old girls (his daughters friends, presumably) would be ogling his hot dad body and talking amongst their friends in the neighborhood.
Roflmao.
Not ogling. Admiring. The human body can be an art form, in whatever shape or form.
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@CreativeGuy504 Devil's advocate here... Women who run in sports bras, no shirt: what are your feelings regarding a "fit" looking 25 year old woman versus a 60 year old, 300 pound woman running in public without covering herself?
(Please, please, PLEASE keep in mind, I'm just adding perspective. I am not judging anyone for age or size. Personally, I think a sports bra is a bra, which is an undergarment, which stays under my garments, not flaunted for the public to see.)
Wouldn't bother me.
Sure it may not be the most pleasant thing to look at (just like my seventy year old neighbor), but I would support her 100%. I love to people watch, and that comes with seeing people who are really well dressed, and people who aren't. To me, telling a shirtless jogger to cover up (unless in a place of business, etc) is akin to telling a random stranger "I don't like that outfit on you. You need to change into something else."
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Absolutely agree. I was commenting on the PP's PPTriathlete1502 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
When I was a teenager and woman in her early 20s, I do not recall being emotionally scarred by the sight of an exposed chest or back belonging to a man over 35. I'm really not sure why this is something you find so inappropriate. Maybe men just get hot, and it's not necessarily a form of peacocking?
I don't think that poster was implying that the young ladies would be emotionally scarred. He was implying that the 20 yr old girls (his daughters friends, presumably) would be ogling his hot dad body and talking amongst their friends in the neighborhood.
Roflmao.
Not ogling. Admiring. The human body can be an art form, in whatever shape or form. 1 -
It isn't really a common sight where I live regardless of age or condition of the guy. I don't see guys hanging out shirtless outside, exercing shirtless outside or doing yard work shirtless much here. I never really thought about it.
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Never a debate in the running community. Shirtless isn't to show off. Shoes on the other hand....7
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Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
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You stated this perfectly....no shirt=totally not paying attention to others around you..& so much more.0
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Packerjohn wrote: »Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
I do. Like Gallomere said, it's my public courtesy to prevent vomiting.2 -
I'd go shirtless if I wouldn't get thrown in jail for it.7
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If God wanted us to be naked we'd have been born that way.
Clothes are only for when it's too cold out to not wear them.11 -
I personally do not judge what others do, but do I look when I crosses my eyes? Yes. Do I stare? Depends.. Eye candy always gets a second, third glance and a chubby runner with no shirt will always get a glance and maybe even an eye roll and the question of "Why"? But who cares.. I cannot do one thing about what others do, only my own reaction and if I choose to use class or not in how I deal with it.
If you have watched any Olympic Beach Volleyball, and seen the Brazil (female and men), they are just pretty to look at.. the others need to put on some clothes on, so hense eye roll and ask why, but I can choose to change the channel. ya???
I wear clothes too to prevent public mass vomiting, this will make me vomit if I see someone else vomit!
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Why do you CARE if someone runs shirtless though? How is it impacting your life? They aren't hurting you or your children unless you're afraid of answering a question if they ask.You stated this perfectly....no shirt=totally not paying attention to others around you..& so much more.
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Personally, I would prefer all men stay covered. I don't wanna see that. Women, on the other hand, can wear or (better yet) not wear whatever they like
Seriously though, I don't understand the shirtless thing from a comfort standpoint. I hate the feeling of being covered in a sheen of sticky sweat (it's humid here in summer. Sweat doesn't evaporate, and our bodies have not adapted to figure out that when sweating fails to cool us in such conditions, sweating more doesn't help.) Wearing a shirt helps wick a lot of that away from the skin. Of course once the shirt becomes completely soaked it's equally as gross. But generally for me, the modest increase in air flow over the skin doesn't offset the increased intensity of the sun hitting it.1 -
MarkusDarwath wrote: »Personally, I would prefer all men stay covered. I don't wanna see that. Women, on the other hand, can wear or (better yet) not wear whatever they like
Seriously though, I don't understand the shirtless thing from a comfort standpoint. I hate the feeling of being covered in a sheen of sticky sweat (it's humid here in summer. Sweat doesn't evaporate, and our bodies have not adapted to figure out that when sweating fails to cool us in such conditions, sweating more doesn't help.) Wearing a shirt helps wick a lot of that away from the skin. Of course once the shirt becomes completely soaked it's equally as gross. But generally for me, the modest increase in air flow over the skin doesn't offset the increased intensity of the sun hitting it.
Sweat doesn't evaporate.
Mkay.3 -
To his defense, he did say it was humid. As for the "intensity of the sun", I suppose for him (based on skin and hair color) that burning red isn't the same as getting tanned.Alluminati wrote: »MarkusDarwath wrote: »Personally, I would prefer all men stay covered. I don't wanna see that. Women, on the other hand, can wear or (better yet) not wear whatever they like
Seriously though, I don't understand the shirtless thing from a comfort standpoint. I hate the feeling of being covered in a sheen of sticky sweat (it's humid here in summer. Sweat doesn't evaporate, and our bodies have not adapted to figure out that when sweating fails to cool us in such conditions, sweating more doesn't help.) Wearing a shirt helps wick a lot of that away from the skin. Of course once the shirt becomes completely soaked it's equally as gross. But generally for me, the modest increase in air flow over the skin doesn't offset the increased intensity of the sun hitting it.
Sweat doesn't evaporate.
Mkay.
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Alluminati wrote: »Sweat doesn't evaporate.
Mkay.
When the humidity is over 94%, sweat doesn't evaporate quickly enough to do much good and ends up just sitting on the skin and feeling nasty.
Is it really necessary to explain every detail of context?
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haha not sure what to think of this thread. If anyone is secure enough with themselves to run shirtless then who cares?! Anyone worried about it or judging them has the problem. LOL at there being an age that it is acceptable.5
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