Hit the fat platue but still alot to loose, what to do
vjinder
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I was 150kg the time i started my weightloss and i hang on to a very simple routine of eat less run more and pick heavy in the gym. And i lost 35kg with the same mantra since last year but now from last couple of months the progress has stopped neither inches nor the weight is going down i am stuck i tried leaving running and gym for two weeks then start over again but nothing, tried decreasing my calorie intake to an extent. Someone at gym told me that its your platue and you need to starve to break trough it. Now i am not really into starving because i have other works to do during the day and i need energy to work properly, so any better ideas??
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Starve? No, no. nope, NOPE. Don't listen to that 'someone from the gym'. That's awful advice.
1. How many calories are you consuming?
2. What's your height, current weight, age?
3. Do you use a food scale? If not, you really should weigh absolutely everything (except for liquids) that you consume.
4. Have you reassessed your calories since losing weight?1 -
This is normal for everyone and it's a very simple fix. If you've been in a caloric deficit for a while, then all you need to do is up your calories back up to maintenance for a week or two, then go back to a deficit again. Also keep in mind that the more fat you lose and more fit you get you need to adjust your caloric intake as well as your training. Keep the training intensity up, but the workouts short. Hope this helps. Feel free to add me and ask any questions.0
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Try high carb low fat vegan
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OMG, seriously? No! Stop posting this in every thread, it's not helpful at all.brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
OP, as you lose weight you need to lower the amount of calories you're eating. With less pounds to move around you burn less calories doing the same things like simply living and breathing let alone any exercise.
On the bright side, what you've been eating is what you need to eat to maintain your current weight but you'll need to eat less to continue to lose. If you haven't yet, update your profile in MFP with your new weight and you should see your calorie goal decrease. As you get closer and closer to goal you'll find you need to be more accurate with your food logging; you have less room for error.
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I've been vegan 3.5 months and just redownload this app because I was curious about my macros and stuff. I promise I actually eat more than I used to and I maintain my weight. That's what I like about veganism. I don't care if you've seen my other comments, I'm just dying to help people feel as good as I do. If they try my suggestion and like it then I've helped. If they try it and don't like it, oh well, the world will go on. I've done so much research, literally i eat and breathe veganism, and I know it's the right thing for me. Before veganism, I thought vegans were crazy and annoying and weird, but as a vegan I know that it's honestly a great diet and lifestyle, and so therefore I will put it out there as a recommendation to anyone. It's just the only recommendation I have, so it does get repeated. I'm sorry, it's not meant to be scam.
OMG, seriously? No! Stop posting this in every thread, it's not helpful at all.brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
OP, as you lose weight you need to lower the amount of calories you're eating. With less pounds to move around you burn less calories doing the same things like simply living and breathing let alone any exercise.
On the bright side, what you've been eating is what you need to eat to maintain your current weight but you'll need to eat less to continue to lose. If you haven't yet, update your profile in MFP with your new weight and you should see your calorie goal decrease. As you get closer and closer to goal you'll find you need to be more accurate with your food logging; you have less room for error.
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brichards_ wrote: »
I've been vegan 3.5 months and just redownload this app because I was curious about my macros and stuff. I promise I actually eat more than I used to and I maintain my weight. That's what I like about veganism. I don't care if you've seen my other comments, I'm just dying to help people feel as good as I do. If they try my suggestion and like it then I've helped. If they try it and don't like it, oh well, the world will go on. I've done so much research, literally i eat and breathe veganism, and I know it's the right thing for me. Before veganism, I thought vegans were crazy and annoying and weird, but as a vegan I know that it's honestly a great diet and lifestyle, and so therefore I will put it out there as a recommendation to anyone. It's just the only recommendation I have, so it does get repeated. I'm sorry, it's not meant to be scam.
OMG, seriously? No! Stop posting this in every thread, it's not helpful at all.brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
OP, as you lose weight you need to lower the amount of calories you're eating. With less pounds to move around you burn less calories doing the same things like simply living and breathing let alone any exercise.
On the bright side, what you've been eating is what you need to eat to maintain your current weight but you'll need to eat less to continue to lose. If you haven't yet, update your profile in MFP with your new weight and you should see your calorie goal decrease. As you get closer and closer to goal you'll find you need to be more accurate with your food logging; you have less room for error.
The problem is that you're suggesting that someone, should restrict foods unnecessarily; which could have the opposite effect on their weight loss goals because it might cause them, to then binge on those restricted foods; if/when they'd feel deprived enough to. All that's necessary is to consume less calories, than 1 burns; to lose weight. If the OP has to restrict foods due to allergies, ethics and/or religion, they're most likely already doing it & it thus has nothing to do, with creating their deficit.6 -
brichards_ wrote: »
I've been vegan 3.5 months and just redownload this app because I was curious about my macros and stuff. I promise I actually eat more than I used to and I maintain my weight. That's what I like about veganism. I don't care if you've seen my other comments, I'm just dying to help people feel as good as I do. If they try my suggestion and like it then I've helped. If they try it and don't like it, oh well, the world will go on. I've done so much research, literally i eat and breathe veganism, and I know it's the right thing for me. Before veganism, I thought vegans were crazy and annoying and weird, but as a vegan I know that it's honestly a great diet and lifestyle, and so therefore I will put it out there as a recommendation to anyone. It's just the only recommendation I have, so it does get repeated. I'm sorry, it's not meant to be scam.
OMG, seriously? No! Stop posting this in every thread, it's not helpful at all.brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
OP, as you lose weight you need to lower the amount of calories you're eating. With less pounds to move around you burn less calories doing the same things like simply living and breathing let alone any exercise.
On the bright side, what you've been eating is what you need to eat to maintain your current weight but you'll need to eat less to continue to lose. If you haven't yet, update your profile in MFP with your new weight and you should see your calorie goal decrease. As you get closer and closer to goal you'll find you need to be more accurate with your food logging; you have less room for error.
Just because a vegan lifestyle works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone else. It's also just plain bad advice when issued as a blanket statement. Someone who is diabetic could never eat a high carb diet; it could literally kill them. I get that you're excited about your diet change but you should probably save your evangelism for the nutrition board and not for the people who are new and confused; it doesn't help them.
For example, the person who posted in this thread is strength training while losing weight. "High carb low fat vegan" is not a good diet choice for someone who is still trying to figure things out and needs extra protein. There are a lot of people here who are just starting out and trying to eat "healthy" for the first time in their lives. For many of them completely changing their way of eating so they can lose weight is scary and it's completely not necessary. They can lose weight by simply eating less of the foods they love and don't want to give up eating.
I can't imagine you jumped into veganism at the very beginning. You probably tried a few other things along the way. Those who are starting a weight loss effort need time to get a feel for the changes they're making. Many of them start out still eating a lot of processed foods and takeout and that's fine because getting to a healthy weight is more important to their overall health than eating specific foods. Over time many start eating in a more healthy manner (more veggies, more lean protein, etc.) simply because it allows them to eat more food or because they are having success with weight loss and really want to try to eat better. For them your advice might be useful but not if you are only posting "Try high carb low fat vegan". Give them the reasons why it might be better for them so they can make an informed decision to check it out.7 -
brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
This is just evangelism ...it is not helpful ...you can high carb low fat vegan and put on weight ...if you want to help people be helpful, don't just spam the boards
OP Just ignore this
Get your calorie defecit sorted, and stick to it, ignore the gym bro science
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Op I see you just joined MFP. Try tracking your intake forat tleast a week. My guess is that you are eating more than you think.0
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I. An athlete who works out and does strength and cardio exercise. Look up vegan athletes, even vegan athletes in the I love you pics, it makes no difference. I will recommend it because, most likely it will work if someone really has the desire to try it. Cutting out junk food first is a good step, but I'm just sharing what worked for me, like I'm allowed to do on this app... And supposed to do without fear of people belittling me every time I comment because they don't see eye to eyebrichards_ wrote: »
I've been vegan 3.5 months and just redownload this app because I was curious about my macros and stuff. I promise I actually eat more than I used to and I maintain my weight. That's what I like about veganism. I don't care if you've seen my other comments, I'm just dying to help people feel as good as I do. If they try my suggestion and like it then I've helped. If they try it and don't like it, oh well, the world will go on. I've done so much research, literally i eat and breathe veganism, and I know it's the right thing for me. Before veganism, I thought vegans were crazy and annoying and weird, but as a vegan I know that it's honestly a great diet and lifestyle, and so therefore I will put it out there as a recommendation to anyone. It's just the only recommendation I have, so it does get repeated. I'm sorry, it's not meant to be scam.
OMG, seriously? No! Stop posting this in every thread, it's not helpful at all.brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
OP, as you lose weight you need to lower the amount of calories you're eating. With less pounds to move around you burn less calories doing the same things like simply living and breathing let alone any exercise.
On the bright side, what you've been eating is what you need to eat to maintain your current weight but you'll need to eat less to continue to lose. If you haven't yet, update your profile in MFP with your new weight and you should see your calorie goal decrease. As you get closer and closer to goal you'll find you need to be more accurate with your food logging; you have less room for error.
Just because a vegan lifestyle works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone else. It's also just plain bad advice when issued as a blanket statement. Someone who is diabetic could never eat a high carb diet; it could literally kill them. I get that you're excited about your diet change but you should probably save your evangelism for the nutrition board and not for the people who are new and confused; it doesn't help them.
For example, the person who posted in this thread is strength training while losing weight. "High carb low fat vegan" is not a good diet choice for someone who is still trying to figure things out and needs extra protein. There are a lot of people here who are just starting out and trying to eat "healthy" for the first time in their lives. For many of them completely changing their way of eating so they can lose weight is scary and it's completely not necessary. They can lose weight by simply eating less of the foods they love and don't want to give up eating.
I can't imagine you jumped into veganism at the very beginning. You probably tried a few other things along the way. Those who are starting a weight loss effort need time to get a feel for the changes they're making. Many of them start out still eating a lot of processed foods and takeout and that's fine because getting to a healthy weight is more important to their overall health than eating specific foods. Over time many start eating in a more healthy manner (more veggies, more lean protein, etc.) simply because it allows them to eat more food or because they are having success with weight loss and really want to try to eat better. For them your advice might be useful but not if you are only posting "Try high carb low fat vegan". Give them the reasons why it might be better for them so they can make an informed decision to check it out.
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I'm talking to different people every time, assuming they aren't rereading my comments.brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
This is just evangelism ...it is not helpful ...you can high carb low fat vegan and put on weight ...if you want to help people be helpful, don't just spam the boards
OP Just ignore this
Get your calorie defecit sorted, and stick to it, ignore the gym bro science
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@vjinder There is a crap ton of bad advice in this thread. Plateaus happen. it's not really a plateau unless you've been stuck for a month, in my opinion. There are lots of reason why you might not have a scale movement. It's your time of the month, you ate a ton of sodium when it was super hot, you are retaining water from starting a new exercise program....you get the idea.
If it's been more than a month, load up your stats in MFP and let it tell you your calorie goal. Make sure you really pay attention to your food intake. Log. Weigh. Measure if necessary. Keep on keeping. Eventually, you will see loss.0 -
@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.0 -
people just don't like vegans. It's just the truth. But I'll let you know, that I only suggest this because I assume the person posting has tried other ways, and tried calorie defecit, so I'm giving them a new path they can try only if they want. I'm so thankful to the youtubers who taught me about veganism and lead me there because I love it. So if I can do the same for someone else, and they find they like it, that would make me very happy.@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.
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brichards_ wrote: »
I'm talking to different people every time, assuming they aren't rereading my comments.brichards_ wrote: »Try high carb low fat vegan
This is just evangelism ...it is not helpful ...you can high carb low fat vegan and put on weight ...if you want to help people be helpful, don't just spam the boards
OP Just ignore this
Get your calorie defecit sorted, and stick to it, ignore the gym bro science
You're saying nothing every time
I've seen the same post a few times, others have clearly seen it more frequently and are responding accordingly
It's clear to me you have wish to help other people but what you're actually doing is spamming ...do what people on this thread are asking you to do...explain how your approach may help and perhaps why it works for you..otherwise it just comes across as evangelical, boring spam1 -
brichards_ wrote: »
people just don't like vegans. It's just the truth. But I'll let you know, that I only suggest this because I assume the person posting has tried other ways, and tried calorie defecit, so I'm giving them a new path they can try only if they want. I'm so thankful to the youtubers who taught me about veganism and lead me there because I love it. So if I can do the same for someone else, and they find they like it, that would make me very happy.@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.
This is not true. I like @becomingbane and he's a vegan. But he doesn't tell me I'm gonna stay fat from eating animals. My personal belief is that someone has to be at the top of the food chain and it might as well be me.
Losing weight is not a moral issue. Veganism is.2 -
brichards_ wrote: »
people just don't like vegans. It's just the truth. But I'll let you know, that I only suggest this because I assume the person posting has tried other ways, and tried calorie defecit, so I'm giving them a new path they can try only if they want. I'm so thankful to the youtubers who taught me about veganism and lead me there because I love it. So if I can do the same for someone else, and they find they like it, that would make me very happy.@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.
There are several forum regulars who are vegans, and they are an awesome addition to this community. But they also have years of experience in that way of eating and understand how the body works. And they don't reply "You should eat vegan!" in every thread. This kind of evangelism is WHY a lot of people don't like vegans.3 -
brichards_ wrote: »
people just don't like vegans. It's just the truth. But I'll let you know, that I only suggest this because I assume the person posting has tried other ways, and tried calorie defecit, so I'm giving them a new path they can try only if they want. I'm so thankful to the youtubers who taught me about veganism and lead me there because I love it. So if I can do the same for someone else, and they find they like it, that would make me very happy.@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.
I have nothing against vegans. EVANGELICAL vegans are annoying.2 -
being vegan is also not a magical way to lose weight either. lots of people here who are vegans became overweight,even overeating vegan foods can cause weight gain. its still about CICO. its not going to matter what you eat for weight loss as long as you are in a deficit.if cutting certain things out puts you in a deficit then you will lose weight.0
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brichards_ wrote: »
people just don't like vegans. It's just the truth. But I'll let you know, that I only suggest this because I assume the person posting has tried other ways, and tried calorie defecit, so I'm giving them a new path they can try only if they want. I'm so thankful to the youtubers who taught me about veganism and lead me there because I love it. So if I can do the same for someone else, and they find they like it, that would make me very happy.@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.
Actually 1 of my goals, is to become Vegan myself & I love myself.1 -
brichards_ wrote: »
people just don't like vegans. It's just the truth. But I'll let you know, that I only suggest this because I assume the person posting has tried other ways, and tried calorie defecit, so I'm giving them a new path they can try only if they want. I'm so thankful to the youtubers who taught me about veganism and lead me there because I love it. So if I can do the same for someone else, and they find they like it, that would make me very happy.@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.
Completely untrue unless they are pushing their lifestyle on the people around them when it's unwanted. Ahem.
There's nothing wrong with being a vegan. It's also quite possible to be a vegan and an elite athlete but it's not easy. People who are just starting out on a weight loss and fitness plan need easy; not something that completely changes their lifestyle and that forces them to search for alternate protein sources. I'll restate my position: If you want to try to convert people to veganism do it outside of these forums, especially the ones that are full of people who aren't sure what they're doing yet. And if you do choose to do it, come up with something more explanatory and compelling than 'Try high carb low fat vegan'; it's a worthless statement on its own.2 -
I was 150kg the time i started my weightloss and i hang on to a very simple routine of eat less run more and pick heavy in the gym. And i lost 35kg with the same mantra since last year but now from last couple of months the progress has stopped neither inches nor the weight is going down i am stuck i tried leaving running and gym for two weeks then start over again but nothing, tried decreasing my calorie intake to an extent. Someone at gym told me that its your platue and you need to starve to break trough it. Now i am not really into starving because i have other works to do during the day and i need energy to work properly, so any better ideas??
It might be helpful to open your diary. Many times, members are able to see patterns that the person isn't.
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geneticsteacher wrote: »brichards_ wrote: »
people just don't like vegans. It's just the truth. But I'll let you know, that I only suggest this because I assume the person posting has tried other ways, and tried calorie defecit, so I'm giving them a new path they can try only if they want. I'm so thankful to the youtubers who taught me about veganism and lead me there because I love it. So if I can do the same for someone else, and they find they like it, that would make me very happy.@brichards the problem with the suggestion you gave is that you didn't then appropriately explain how it might address the situation. The OP is experiencing a plateau. Suggesting 'Try high carb low fat vegan' doesn't really address the situation unless you then explain why this might help their stall in weight loss. If what you are trying to say is along the lines of, you can eat less calories with this way of eating but feel satiated and so this might help you create a greater calorie deficit and so break the plateau ... (I have no idea if that is the case as I know nothing about vegan diets, just taking a punt) then maybe others wouldn't then characterise your suggestion as 'evangelism'.
Or they still would. I dunno.
I have nothing against vegans. EVANGELICAL vegans are annoying.
Evangelical anything are annoying. Evangelical paleo, evangelical HFLC, evangelical moderates, evangelical power walkers, whatever. Non evangelical vegans, cool.
I also think a mention of Matt Fitzgerald's Diet Cults is worthwhile: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/diet-cults-vs-science-based-healthy-eating/1
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