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If an usher comes over to ask them to quiet down, it must be or else they would have just told her there's nothing that they can do.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked in
Many concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
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This is why I prefer outdoor or smaller venues, you can move around to wherever it's best for you - you're not tied to one seat. General admission is the way to go!
I've been to concerts where I was on both sides. I was up and dancing, the guy behind me told me to sit down, saying that he paid for the seats and wanted to see. I refused for two reasons: he TOLD me what to do and I also paid for my seat. The other I went to, the people in front of us talked over the music the entire time, I could still hear, but their conversation was also clear (I think they got the tickets for free, shame they weren't enjoying the amazing show). I didn't say anything because it's a concert and, unless you buy a block of seats, you can't control who will be around you or what they do.
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I'd pay them to switch seats.Jonesingmucho wrote: »So if you sat behind people taller than you that stood through a whole concert and you couldn't see the artist or stage, you'd just suck it up?
Short answer - Yes
Whenever you choose to go someplace where other people will be, as long as they are not doing anything illegal or against the venue policies, they can do whatever they choose to do. I can either suck it up or go home or buy them drinks to stop what they are doing that I dislike.
I find most people are very reasonable when you negotiate with adequate incentives.
See! There's a great solution!
...This is making me realizing whoever said money can't buy happiness never had to pay someone off...
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So if you sat behind people taller than you that stood through a whole concert and you couldn't see the artist or stage, you'd just suck it up?
Yep, I would. Actually, since I'm short, I would pick my seats more strategically to begin with...up close, close to an aisle, or in the stands. If I put myself in the middle of the pit and a taller person is in front of me blocking my view, it's on me to suck it up.
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If an usher comes over to ask them to quiet down, it must be or else they would have just told her there's nothing that they can do.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
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the usher most likely did that just to appease them, knowing there was nothing he could do.2 -
I think it is ridiculous to ask that. My opinion anyway.0
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I get it, but then again what happens to your experience? Especially if it's a concert that you may only get to see once? Just looking at all the options here so that the next time I go to an event, I can try to avoid a bad experience.So if you sat behind people taller than you that stood through a whole concert and you couldn't see the artist or stage, you'd just suck it up?
Yep, I would. Actually, since I'm short, I would pick my seats more strategically to begin with...up close, close to an aisle, or in the stands. If I put myself in the middle of the pit and a taller person is in front of me blocking my view, it's on me to suck it up.
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You don't appease someone by doing something that wasn't necessary and if it's explained that there's nothing they can do if regulations aren't being broken.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
If an usher comes over to ask them to quiet down, it must be or else they would have just told her there's nothing that they can do.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
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the usher most likely did that just to appease them, knowing there was nothing he could do.
If someone left sweat on a machine and was I notified, I could tell that member that they need to wipe off the seat and that we have disposable disinfecting towels available (there are dispensers around the gym).
If a member had his headphones on and was singing to himself and someone beside was annoyed and reported it, I'd tell that person that he isn't breaking any regulation or rules and that there's nothing we will do about it. I'm not going to go talk to the singer to appease a member. What will that do? If he keeps singing, the same person will come back and keep complaining.
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You don't appease someone by doing something that wasn't necessary and if it's explained that there's nothing they can do if regulations aren't being broken.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
If an usher comes over to ask them to quiet down, it must be or else they would have just told her there's nothing that they can do.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
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the usher most likely did that just to appease them, knowing there was nothing he could do.
If someone left sweat on a machine and was I notified, I could tell that member that they need to wipe off the seat and that we have disposable disinfecting towels available (there are dispensers around the gym).
If a member had his headphones on and was singing to himself and someone beside was annoyed and reported it, I'd tell that person that he isn't breaking any regulation or rules and that there's nothing we will do about it. I'm not going to go talk to the singer to appease a member. What will that do? If he keeps singing, the same person will come back and keep complaining.
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point is, the loud singers weren't breaking any rules so complaining does nothing, even if the usher asked them to quiet down, he is of no authority and there is nothing he could really do anyways.
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Incorrect. If usher requests them to comply with a request (too loud and disturbing others around them) and they refuse, they can be ejected.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
You don't appease someone by doing something that wasn't necessary and if it's explained that there's nothing they can do if regulations aren't being broken.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
If an usher comes over to ask them to quiet down, it must be or else they would have just told her there's nothing that they can do.toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
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the usher most likely did that just to appease them, knowing there was nothing he could do.
If someone left sweat on a machine and was I notified, I could tell that member that they need to wipe off the seat and that we have disposable disinfecting towels available (there are dispensers around the gym).
If a member had his headphones on and was singing to himself and someone beside was annoyed and reported it, I'd tell that person that he isn't breaking any regulation or rules and that there's nothing we will do about it. I'm not going to go talk to the singer to appease a member. What will that do? If he keeps singing, the same person will come back and keep complaining.
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point is, the loud singers weren't breaking any rules so complaining does nothing, even if the usher asked them to quiet down, he is of no authority and there is nothing he could really do anyways.
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People sing/dance at concerts. The last one I went to there was a mentally disabled woman dancing and singing at the to
of her lungs. I'm not going to p**s on her parade by telling her to be quiet. It was awesome to see someone so into the music. She had a great time and so did I (because I focused on enjoying myself rather than kvetching about what other people were doing). Your friends ruined the concert for themselves.2 -
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So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.1 -
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Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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And if he didn't because he was "enjoying" himself? C'mon you can be honest.
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Yea, I wouldn't. I'd expect it! If they were belligerent drunks then I'd have to make decisions
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Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?4 -
Lol, you'd only find me dead at a country concert! Not my preference of music. I'm all for having a good time and would stand and clap and sing, but I'd still try to be considerate to those behind me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?
If you READ the thread, it wasn't on everyone else. Just the 2 in front of them. And they kindly asked, not acted a like *kitten*.
So I'll ask you the same I asked the other guy. You're at a concert/game venue. Everyone else around is sitting down but the person in front of you obstructing your view. According to you he has the right to "enjoy" himself so the whole time they stand and shout and clap (it's not posted that he can't stand and clap). You're not going to ask them to sit? Or will you sit there quietly?
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Lol, you'd only find me dead at a country concert! Not my preference of music. I'm all for having a good time and would stand and clap and sing, but I'd still try to be considerate to those behind me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?
If you READ the thread, it wasn't on everyone else. Just the 2 in front of them. And they kindly asked, not acted a like *kitten*.
So I'll ask you the same I asked the other guy. You're at a concert/game venue. Everyone else around is sitting down but the person in front of you obstructing your view. According to you he has the right to "enjoy" himself so the whole time they stand and shout and clap (it's not posted that he can't stand and clap). You're not going to ask them to sit? Or will you sit there quietly?
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But that's not the norm for a rock/country concert. And in my experience not for games either. It's expected that people will stand up/cheer and sing. I have never been to a concert (other than classical) where anyone sat down at all. So I would consider any person expecting everyone to sit down to be a) in the extreme minority b) not cut out for watching live music. You're now talking about a stadium full of people sitting at a concert and one lone person standing up, which is not a realistic situation and I'm sure not the situation at the concert your friends were at.
I will say that the last concert I went to I was 7 months pregnant and had to sit down sometimes because of that. Everyone around me was standing/dancing but I wouldn't have considered asking them to sit down even though I couldn't see the stage at all when I was sitting.0 -
I'm sure I can pull up many games where fans are sitting and even concerts too. Whether it's the norm or not, the scenario is if he's having a good time and not causing any trouble and he's doing it because that's how he enjoys a venue, then you're not going to ask them to sit so you can see too? And before you say you'll move, it's sold out and you can't stand in the aisleway to watch (that's usually against the rules anyway). So?Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Lol, you'd only find me dead at a country concert! Not my preference of music. I'm all for having a good time and would stand and clap and sing, but I'd still try to be considerate to those behind me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?
If you READ the thread, it wasn't on everyone else. Just the 2 in front of them. And they kindly asked, not acted a like *kitten*.
So I'll ask you the same I asked the other guy. You're at a concert/game venue. Everyone else around is sitting down but the person in front of you obstructing your view. According to you he has the right to "enjoy" himself so the whole time they stand and shout and clap (it's not posted that he can't stand and clap). You're not going to ask them to sit? Or will you sit there quietly?
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But that's not the norm for a rock/country concert. And in my experience not for games either. It's expected that people will stand up/cheer and sing. I have never been to a concert (other than classical) where anyone sat down at all. So I would consider any person expecting everyone to sit down to be a) in the extreme minority b) not cut out for watching live music. You're now talking about a stadium full of people sitting at a concert and one lone person standing up, which is not a realistic situation and I'm sure not the situation at the concert your friends were at.
I will say that the last concert I went to I was 7 months pregnant and had to sit down sometimes because of that. Everyone around me was standing/dancing but I wouldn't have considered asking them to sit down even though I couldn't see the stage at all when I was sitting.
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I'm sure I can pull up many games where fans are sitting and even concerts too. Whether it's the norm or not, the scenario is if he's having a good time and not causing any trouble and he's doing it because that's how he enjoys a venue, then you're not going to ask them to sit so you can see too? And before you say you'll move, it's sold out and you can't stand in the aisleway to watch (that's usually against the rules anyway). So?Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Lol, you'd only find me dead at a country concert! Not my preference of music. I'm all for having a good time and would stand and clap and sing, but I'd still try to be considerate to those behind me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?
If you READ the thread, it wasn't on everyone else. Just the 2 in front of them. And they kindly asked, not acted a like *kitten*.
So I'll ask you the same I asked the other guy. You're at a concert/game venue. Everyone else around is sitting down but the person in front of you obstructing your view. According to you he has the right to "enjoy" himself so the whole time they stand and shout and clap (it's not posted that he can't stand and clap). You're not going to ask them to sit? Or will you sit there quietly?
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But that's not the norm for a rock/country concert. And in my experience not for games either. It's expected that people will stand up/cheer and sing. I have never been to a concert (other than classical) where anyone sat down at all. So I would consider any person expecting everyone to sit down to be a) in the extreme minority b) not cut out for watching live music. You're now talking about a stadium full of people sitting at a concert and one lone person standing up, which is not a realistic situation and I'm sure not the situation at the concert your friends were at.
I will say that the last concert I went to I was 7 months pregnant and had to sit down sometimes because of that. Everyone around me was standing/dancing but I wouldn't have considered asking them to sit down even though I couldn't see the stage at all when I was sitting.
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Like I said, it's a logical fallacy. You're argument is outside the realms of reality. It's like me saying 'You go to the pool and everyone is wearing a t-shirt in the pool apart from one guy who insists on wearing swim shorts and no t-shirt. He is spoiling the pool for everyone by bring topless so do you ask him to cover up?' No, because he is behaving the way that is expected and allowed at the pool and everyone else isn't. Everyone stands up at concerts. If you don't like it don't go. End of story.2 -
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To be honest, I don't think they did something wrong. I go to tons of pop and rock concerts. Everyone pays like 100 dollars to be there so we should all have fun and make the most of it! When I see my favourite bands, I sing at the top of my lungs! And so does every single person around me... it's awesome! ALthough some of the bands I see are very very loud because they have to play over the incredibly high-pitched screams of 20 thousand girls lol, I still think that you're suppose to sing (most bands expect it) and scream and jump around at concerts
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I've been on both sides of this situation, and my opinion is that a little goodwill goes a long way. If these girls saw this couple sitting behind them, and had said, "we are going to be dancing a singing, I hope we don't bother you!" this couple would probably have said, "oh, please enjoy yourselves!" Or, knowing the couple behind them wanted to sit, the girls could have compromised and danced and sung for some songs but not all - and then everyone could have had an experience approximating their expectations. I agree that the girls are under no obligation to sit just because the people behind them were sitting, but by showing each other a little consideration, everyone's memory of this concert would have changed dramatically.
I wonder if someone behind you were physically unable to stand up for the whole three hours, and actually *had* to sit for most of the concert, would you feel differently?2 -
Outside of reality? I've been at games many times where people tell others to sit down cause they can't see. And people oblige. Deflecting your answer from the question tells me you would ask.......................and that's okay.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
I'm sure I can pull up many games where fans are sitting and even concerts too. Whether it's the norm or not, the scenario is if he's having a good time and not causing any trouble and he's doing it because that's how he enjoys a venue, then you're not going to ask them to sit so you can see too? And before you say you'll move, it's sold out and you can't stand in the aisleway to watch (that's usually against the rules anyway). So?Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Lol, you'd only find me dead at a country concert! Not my preference of music. I'm all for having a good time and would stand and clap and sing, but I'd still try to be considerate to those behind me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?
If you READ the thread, it wasn't on everyone else. Just the 2 in front of them. And they kindly asked, not acted a like *kitten*.
So I'll ask you the same I asked the other guy. You're at a concert/game venue. Everyone else around is sitting down but the person in front of you obstructing your view. According to you he has the right to "enjoy" himself so the whole time they stand and shout and clap (it's not posted that he can't stand and clap). You're not going to ask them to sit? Or will you sit there quietly?
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But that's not the norm for a rock/country concert. And in my experience not for games either. It's expected that people will stand up/cheer and sing. I have never been to a concert (other than classical) where anyone sat down at all. So I would consider any person expecting everyone to sit down to be a) in the extreme minority b) not cut out for watching live music. You're now talking about a stadium full of people sitting at a concert and one lone person standing up, which is not a realistic situation and I'm sure not the situation at the concert your friends were at.
I will say that the last concert I went to I was 7 months pregnant and had to sit down sometimes because of that. Everyone around me was standing/dancing but I wouldn't have considered asking them to sit down even though I couldn't see the stage at all when I was sitting.
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Like I said, it's a logical fallacy. You're argument is outside the realms of reality. It's like me saying 'You go to the pool and everyone is wearing a t-shirt in the pool apart from one guy who insists on wearing swim shorts and no t-shirt. He is spoiling the pool for everyone by bring topless so do you ask him to cover up?' No, because he is behaving the way that is expected and allowed at the pool and everyone else isn't. Everyone stands up at concerts. If you don't like it don't go. End of story.
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Outside of reality? I've been at games many times where people tell others to sit down cause they can't see. And people oblige. Deflecting your answer from the question tells me you would ask.......................and that's okay.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
I'm sure I can pull up many games where fans are sitting and even concerts too. Whether it's the norm or not, the scenario is if he's having a good time and not causing any trouble and he's doing it because that's how he enjoys a venue, then you're not going to ask them to sit so you can see too? And before you say you'll move, it's sold out and you can't stand in the aisleway to watch (that's usually against the rules anyway). So?Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Lol, you'd only find me dead at a country concert! Not my preference of music. I'm all for having a good time and would stand and clap and sing, but I'd still try to be considerate to those behind me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?
If you READ the thread, it wasn't on everyone else. Just the 2 in front of them. And they kindly asked, not acted a like *kitten*.
So I'll ask you the same I asked the other guy. You're at a concert/game venue. Everyone else around is sitting down but the person in front of you obstructing your view. According to you he has the right to "enjoy" himself so the whole time they stand and shout and clap (it's not posted that he can't stand and clap). You're not going to ask them to sit? Or will you sit there quietly?
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But that's not the norm for a rock/country concert. And in my experience not for games either. It's expected that people will stand up/cheer and sing. I have never been to a concert (other than classical) where anyone sat down at all. So I would consider any person expecting everyone to sit down to be a) in the extreme minority b) not cut out for watching live music. You're now talking about a stadium full of people sitting at a concert and one lone person standing up, which is not a realistic situation and I'm sure not the situation at the concert your friends were at.
I will say that the last concert I went to I was 7 months pregnant and had to sit down sometimes because of that. Everyone around me was standing/dancing but I wouldn't have considered asking them to sit down even though I couldn't see the stage at all when I was sitting.
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Like I said, it's a logical fallacy. You're argument is outside the realms of reality. It's like me saying 'You go to the pool and everyone is wearing a t-shirt in the pool apart from one guy who insists on wearing swim shorts and no t-shirt. He is spoiling the pool for everyone by bring topless so do you ask him to cover up?' No, because he is behaving the way that is expected and allowed at the pool and everyone else isn't. Everyone stands up at concerts. If you don't like it don't go. End of story.
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Outside of reality? I've been at games many times where people tell others to sit down cause they can't see. And people oblige. Deflecting your answer from the question tells me you would ask.......................and that's okay.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
I'm sure I can pull up many games where fans are sitting and even concerts too. Whether it's the norm or not, the scenario is if he's having a good time and not causing any trouble and he's doing it because that's how he enjoys a venue, then you're not going to ask them to sit so you can see too? And before you say you'll move, it's sold out and you can't stand in the aisleway to watch (that's usually against the rules anyway). So?Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Lol, you'd only find me dead at a country concert! Not my preference of music. I'm all for having a good time and would stand and clap and sing, but I'd still try to be considerate to those behind me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
Yes clearly because I live in the US. And I wouldn't go to a soccer game because I find them utterly boring to watch. But that's me.Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »
So if someone at a game stood up and clapped the whole game in front of you, while you and others around him are seated, you're not going to ask him to sit down?toned_thugs_n_harmony wrote: »
Luckily for me, I've never had to experience it. I have stood up at concerts (where people in front of me were sitting) and have been asked to sit down and I obliged. I'm kinda hyper like that.Dammit.... I'm tryna leave, but I keep getting sucked inMany concert events are loud, but if she can hear the people in front of her more than the artist on a song she'd like to listen to, is it bad to ask to tone it down a little?
To be honest, it seems like maybe they should complain to the venue about the acoustics. You should be able to still hear the artist somewhat even with loud singers. But look up concert footage that people take with their cellphones on YouTube. You'll see many clips when you can hear people singing over the music. Honestly, that's just how people behave at concerts...
Is it bad to ask them to tone it down a little? Nah. Maybe a lil annoying.
But it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. And douche-y to get the usher involved.Again, me I like a loud concert. I like a loud football game. But I wouldn't tolerate someone in the stands maliciously berating a visiting team member with say their kids there watching. I'd likely say to that person to be cool and that's it's game for both sides to try to enjoy. If they didn't comply, I'd get an usher. I've been to too many games where as mentioned above where if someone is provoked enough, something bad happens. And most fans don't like it either.
All the concerts I've been to, people do the same and I've not had an issue. Believe me, I get what you're saying and agree with most of it. If I was asked a reasonable request, I oblige because that's just me.But this is a good alternative example. In this case, the guy is being abusive, aggressive. He's outside the social norms of positive fan behavior. He should tone it down. If he doesn't, it's fine to get an usher.
The girls at the concert, on the other hand, are just trying to be fans (sing loudly like the artist wants them to) and enjoy the concert.
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asking someone to not sing or sing quieter at a concert is NOT a reasonable request.
And this. It's a freakin concert
I went to a basketball game once. People cheered and stood up to clap. Such ignorant people.
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Clearly you've never been to an Emglish football game. Everyone stands up and sings/chants the whole way through. Makes a great atmosphere. But unless there are signs posted saying 'no standing' at a venue you have no right to tell someone to sit down.
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That's irrelevant (and plenty of people who live in the US have been to English football games, myself included). The point is that your friends have no right to impose how they want to watch a concert on everyone else. If they want to listen to the music sitting down without making a noise that's up to them, but they have no right to impose those restrictions on everybody else. You seem very defensive about their entitled actions. Was this you rather than 'a friend'?
If you READ the thread, it wasn't on everyone else. Just the 2 in front of them. And they kindly asked, not acted a like *kitten*.
So I'll ask you the same I asked the other guy. You're at a concert/game venue. Everyone else around is sitting down but the person in front of you obstructing your view. According to you he has the right to "enjoy" himself so the whole time they stand and shout and clap (it's not posted that he can't stand and clap). You're not going to ask them to sit? Or will you sit there quietly?
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But that's not the norm for a rock/country concert. And in my experience not for games either. It's expected that people will stand up/cheer and sing. I have never been to a concert (other than classical) where anyone sat down at all. So I would consider any person expecting everyone to sit down to be a) in the extreme minority b) not cut out for watching live music. You're now talking about a stadium full of people sitting at a concert and one lone person standing up, which is not a realistic situation and I'm sure not the situation at the concert your friends were at.
I will say that the last concert I went to I was 7 months pregnant and had to sit down sometimes because of that. Everyone around me was standing/dancing but I wouldn't have considered asking them to sit down even though I couldn't see the stage at all when I was sitting.
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Like I said, it's a logical fallacy. You're argument is outside the realms of reality. It's like me saying 'You go to the pool and everyone is wearing a t-shirt in the pool apart from one guy who insists on wearing swim shorts and no t-shirt. He is spoiling the pool for everyone by bring topless so do you ask him to cover up?' No, because he is behaving the way that is expected and allowed at the pool and everyone else isn't. Everyone stands up at concerts. If you don't like it don't go. End of story.
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Hahaha! Asks a ridiculous question for 'a friend' then tells everyone they agree with him even if they don't. Don't ever change MFP.....2
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