Slow Metabolism?

I'm in an interesting situation. I started exercising on a daily basis in mid-June and I weighed 171. At that time I started counting calories as well (1200 per day). I started by walking 5 miles 3 days per week. After a few weeks I went up to 5 days per week. Now I go to the gym Mon-Fri and do 60 minutes on a stationary bike and some light weights. I now weigh 165 pounds. I know that I've gained some muscle but 6 pounds in 3 months is disappointing. Anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance!
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  • Bxqtie116
    Bxqtie116 Posts: 552 Member
    Sometimes it takes a while for your body to realize the new changes taking place. With your new workout regimen, excess water goes to the muscles for repair. It usually takes a few days to a few weeks to shed the excess water. Also, if your sodium levels have been high, that takes 3-4 days for your body to shed the excess water from that. Continue doing the right things as you're on the right path. Be patient and you'll see the results you're looking for.
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    See your doctor and ask for a full thyroid panel if you suspect that your metabolism is doing something bad. I turned out to be hypothyroid. I now take medication for that.

    Make certain you weigh all your foods. Sometimes the calorie counts on packaging are off. Cups are too inaccurate a measure for solid foods, though liquids like milk and yogurt are fine. When you do that make sure the cup is level. Don't pile yogurt above the rim of the cup, for example. And estimating is a sure way to gain weight, so def don't do that.

    A good digital food scale is 15 bux on Amazon and it will enable you to know exactly how many calories you are truly consuming. When you make something like a casserole use the recipe builder function so that you can know how many calories in a serving. When I make something like a salad, I just tally all the ingredients of it separately. X weight of lettuce, x weight of tomato, etc and then MFP totals it.

    women add muscle bulk slowly. Assuming that you are not a steroid user, I would not expect that to total more than 2-3 pounds, and that is if you are lifting heavy and eating plenty of protein. However, your muscles do temporarily add water and glycogen as part of their repair process after a workout. I never weigh the morning after a workout; it will be misleading.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    You lose weight mainly through food intake, you say nothing about your calorie defecit or approach to eating

    It is all but impossible to out exercise a bad diet, and by bad that means eating close to maintenance

    That said you have lost 6lbs over 8 weeks ...0.75lbs a week that's a great rate of loss so actually your calorie defecit sounds pretty good to me ...well done
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Mid June to mid August is 2 months, no?
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    Mid June to mid August is 2 months, no?

    Yes. Figuring 2 months is approximately 8 weeks, 6 lb isn't bad. It's 3/4 lb per week.

    OP - since your food/exercise diary isn't available to the public, there's info we don't have that we more-or-less need to help. You say you are (or were) at 1200 Cals/day. Are you eating the Calories you've earned through exercise? If so, how exactly are you determining your earned Cals? Also, how exactly - as in, are you measuring liquids and weighing solids - are you determining how many Cals you're eating every day?
  • Vegplotter
    Vegplotter Posts: 265 Member
    Check your maths. You say you've lost 6lbs in three months since mid June. But it's only 2 months since mid June! Just under 1lb/week is excellent.
    If you are new to dieting you might find that inaccuracies are creeping into your calorie counting (there are loads of inaccurate foods in this app - the green ticked ones have been checked).
    Excellent that you are increasing your activity levels, keep that up and the weeks will tick by in no time. You might want to buy a cheap step tracker on eBay or somewhere. I find mine (a cast off from my husband) excellent for keeping track of normal activity.
    Keep going, keep checking your calorie count, keep active and balance your diet and you'll do fine.
  • Vegplotter
    Vegplotter Posts: 265 Member
    Gosh I didn't know that. Thanks! I have found some discrepancies in the verified quantities. I just assumed that they were checked by dopy staff! Need to double check!
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Vegplotter wrote: »
    Gosh I didn't know that. Thanks! I have found some discrepancies in the verified quantities. I just assumed that they were checked by dopy staff! Need to double check!

    Entries can get the green check mark several ways:
    1. They are system entries, taken from https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods and entered by MFP
    2. They are user-created entries with a sufficient number of verifications
    3. I imagine manufacturer entries get a green check as well

    The problem with # 2 is that this is crowd-sourced and people can answer Yes to "Is this data correct?" without having carefully scrutinized every value.

    I eat mostly whole foods and get the syntax for them from https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods and then search in the MFP database for a matching entry.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited August 2016
    jdubsms wrote: »
    I'm in an interesting situation. I started exercising on a daily basis in mid-June and I weighed 171. At that time I started counting calories as well (1200 per day). I started by walking 5 miles 3 days per week. After a few weeks I went up to 5 days per week. Now I go to the gym Mon-Fri and do 60 minutes on a stationary bike and some light weights. I now weigh 165 pounds. I know that I've gained some muscle but 6 pounds in 3 months is disappointing. Anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance!

    How tall are you and what's your goal weight? When you are within 25 pounds of your goal weight, you should be shooting to lose 0.5 pound per week. You're losing 0.75 pounds per week (assuming 8 weeks mid June - mid August) so you're either doing great or losing a little faster than you should, depending on how much more weight you have to lose.

    Except for women who are very short, active women can eat more than 1200 calories and still lose weight. Are you eating 1200 calories total (net calories) or 1200 calories plus calories you've earned from exercise (gross calories)?
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited August 2016
    jdubsms wrote: »
    I'm in an interesting situation. I started exercising on a daily basis in mid-June and I weighed 171. At that time I started counting calories as well (1200 per day). I started by walking 5 miles 3 days per week. After a few weeks I went up to 5 days per week. Now I go to the gym Mon-Fri and do 60 minutes on a stationary bike and some light weights. I now weigh 165 pounds. I know that I've gained some muscle but 6 pounds in 3 months is disappointing. Anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance!

    You won't gain muscle at a deficit, especially if you are not incorporating heavier weight lifting. You are not obese, so any newbie gains would be minimal.

    Six pounds is great progress and comes out to approximately 3/4 pound a week. Since you are at 1200 calories, which is usually 2 pounds a week for most people, and losing at a slower rate, you are eating more than you think through overestimating output and underestimating input.

    Do you weigh your food and measure your liquids? Log every single thing you eat?

    Do you log exercise calories and eat them back? Where do you get those burns from?

    It is very common to underestimate intake and overestimate calorie burns.

    You are doing great, though! Just keep up the hard work. :)
  • nowNOTthenmylife
    nowNOTthenmylife Posts: 47 Member
    Focus on cleaning clean than working out too much. Honestly i was in the same boat. I was exercising at least an hour daily and eating 1200-1400 depending on my workout and was incorporating all food groups but nada weight was going down after I reached 171 from 180. I decided to focus more on my eating than working out. I dance at home for a at most 1hour... I just crank up the radio and dance. I eat 16 oz steamed veggies+ 4 oz grilled chicken/fish/or boiled eggs or eat 1 cup of rice+ 16 oz vegetables with salt as condiment , or just eat salad with a protein. In between I munch on apple sauce or low calorie fruits if needed. No dairy, No more than 1 Tablesspoon of oil daily, No bread etc. I started losing weight.
  • jayz806
    jayz806 Posts: 4 Member
    I just restarted 2 weeks ago. I go to the gym monday-friday do 30 minutes cardio and count my calories I try to stay below 1400 a day I've lost about 6lb so far.
  • pjsdiets
    pjsdiets Posts: 1 Member
    I havent read all of the posts but your body might be in starvation mode. Your body might be hanging on to all of the calories knowing its not getting enough food.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    pjsdiets wrote: »
    I havent read all of the posts but your body might be in starvation mode. Your body might be hanging on to all of the calories knowing its not getting enough food.

    Starvation mode is a myth!
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    pjsdiets wrote: »
    I havent read all of the posts but your body might be in starvation mode. Your body might be hanging on to all of the calories knowing its not getting enough food.

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  • jdubsms
    jdubsms Posts: 4 Member
    Thank y'all so much for the insight. I never thought about weighing food. I weigh 166lbs and I'm 5 feet tall. -like a rolly polly. I want to get down to 150. Anything below 150 would be a miracle. My calories are net; I take into consideration the exercise I do. I looked at my weekly nutrients and I am very low on carbs. I've been meeting/exceeding my protein intake. Just trying to find out where I'm going wrong.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    pjsdiets wrote: »
    I havent read all of the posts but your body might be in starvation mode. Your body might be hanging on to all of the calories knowing its not getting enough food.

    Dieters don't actually stop losing weight due to "starvation mode": http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    jdubsms wrote: »
    Thank y'all so much for the insight. I never thought about weighing food. I weigh 166lbs and I'm 5 feet tall. -like a rolly polly. I want to get down to 150. Anything below 150 would be a miracle. My calories are net; I take into consideration the exercise I do. I looked at my weekly nutrients and I am very low on carbs. I've been meeting/exceeding my protein intake. Just trying to find out where I'm going wrong.

    Since you're not weighing your food, you're likely eating more than 1200 calories, but 0.75 pounds per week is a great rate of loss for you.
  • Whitezombiegirl
    Whitezombiegirl Posts: 1,042 Member
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    pjsdiets wrote: »
    I havent read all of the posts but your body might be in starvation mode. Your body might be hanging on to all of the calories knowing its not getting enough food.


    By 'hanging onto the calories' you could mean two things:
    1) That the energy demands are the same but somehow the body is magically fuelling itself on fresh air, because its hoarding all the calories instead of using them. Not possible.
    2) The energy demand has decreased - by slowing down non-essential processes such as hair growth, nail grow, skin cell turn-over, and also through becoming more lethargic in order to conserve energy. This is noticeable, but not usually the case.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    You do not have a slow metabolism, the majority of the population is within a very small range.
  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,324 Member
    sounds to me you'e working out too much… getting fit isn't losing weight. The body could struggle as you do both too aggressively.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,943 Member
    'Metabolism' is so much more than just 'burning fat'. What makes you think that a tiny part of your metabolism is broken while the rest still seems to work?
    Metabolism describes all the chemical processes that go on continuously inside the body to keep you alive and your organs functioning normally, such as breathing, repairing cells and digesting food.
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,660 Member
    edited August 2016
    I'm about your height, 5'1", but older (57) and lighter (120 lbs.). I wear a Fitbit Charge HR, which actually measures by burn all day based on heart rate. I'd say my inactive metabolism is at 1200 or even lower (some days as little as 1050 to 1100) so eating that much with no activity would give me 0 weight loss. Yesterday, I did 10,000 steps, typical for my daily walking, which got me around 200+ calories and then pilates, so maybe another 100. By the end of the day I got less than 1600 calories. So, to lose weight, I'd actually have to eat 1200, not "net" 1200 because the deficit I can have to lose is very small (since you need to eat 500 calories less than you burn to lose 1 lb. a week). The estimates MFP gives me for the amount of exercise I do is actually much higher than the "burn" the Fibit calculates based on my heartrate and effort. For instance, MFP way overestimates the burn riding on a stationary bike. So, if you're "netting" 1200 and eating back exercise calories based on MFP estimates you might actually be eating more than you are burning. I'd eat back only have 1/2 to 2/3 of the MFP exercise calories and see what happens.
  • pinksparklefairy
    pinksparklefairy Posts: 97 Member
    Try changing up the exercise now and then, as your body will get used to things you do regularly.

    Quite a few women do have thyroid issues without realising it, so you could get it checked out. I have hypothyroidism, but I really don't think it has that much impact on my weight.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    jdubsms wrote: »
    Thank y'all so much for the insight. I never thought about weighing food. I weigh 166lbs and I'm 5 feet tall. -like a rolly polly. I want to get down to 150. Anything below 150 would be a miracle. My calories are net; I take into consideration the exercise I do. I looked at my weekly nutrients and I am very low on carbs. I've been meeting/exceeding my protein intake. Just trying to find out where I'm going wrong.

    No, anything below 150 would not be a miracle. I used to think the same thing, and I now weigh much less than my "miracle weight" and am in a healthy BMI. You can do this!
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Try changing up the exercise now and then, as your body will get used to things you do regularly.

    Quite a few women do have thyroid issues without realising it, so you could get it checked out. I have hypothyroidism, but I really don't think it has that much impact on my weight.

    That would be a tool to cut boredom only. :)
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,943 Member
    edited August 2016
    rosebette wrote: »
    I'm about your height, 5'1", but older (57) and lighter (120 lbs.). I wear a Fitbit Charge HR, which actually measures by burn all day based on heart rate. I'd say my inactive metabolism is at 1200 or even lower (some days as little as 1050 to 1100) so eating that much with no activity would give me 0 weight loss. Yesterday, I did 10,000 steps, typical for my daily walking, which got me around 200+ calories and then pilates, so maybe another 100. By the end of the day I got less than 1600 calories. So, to lose weight, I'd actually have to eat 1200, not "net" 1200 because the deficit I can have to lose is very small (since you need to eat 500 calories less than you burn to lose 1 lb. a week). The estimates MFP gives me for the amount of exercise I do is actually much higher than the "burn" the Fibit calculates based on my heartrate and effort. For instance, MFP way overestimates the burn riding on a stationary bike. So, if you're "netting" 1200 and eating back exercise calories based on MFP estimates you might actually be eating more than you are burning. I'd eat back only have 1/2 to 2/3 of the MFP exercise calories and see what happens.

    So what settings did you use on your fitbit to determine your resting and working out HR? I mean, if you have a fairly slow heart rate in general then the fitbit can only conclude you have a very low 'metabolism', whatever it means by that. HR simply cannot be correlated to calorie burn if your heart rate deviates a bit away from the mid point. I read somewhere that only about 40% of all people sit anywhere near that mid point. How high your heart rate goes is partly influenced by genetics. Some people have a very high maximum heart rate, some a very low one. it has nothing to do with how fit or unfit you are or how many calories you burn. It's just a fact, like having naturally red hair vs. blond hair. If you are unfit and you more around though, your heart rate will go further up, at least for a moment than when you are fitter. Do you burn more calories? No, you don't. Furthermore, some medical problems, like hypothyreodism can lower the heartrate somewhat. If you're on betablockers your heartrate might stay low as well.

    Imagine this: my maximum heart rate is very high, around 210. if I sit on the sofa it might just be around 50-60 as I'm fairly fit. Fitbit will assume I'm burning very few calories, based on the low HR. If I get up and run to the supermarket around the corner my heartrate might go up to 170 and fitbit will assume I just did something extraordinarily difficult and overestimate the calorie burn big time while it was just a very light, easy jog for me.

    Oh, some other numbers: I wore my HR sensor for a few nights as I wanted to know what my minimum HR for running is. After 9 hours of measuring I got around 300kcal out of it. Over 24 hours that would be less than 900 calories. Honestly, no. My base metabolic rate is not below 900. I just have a very low resting heart rate.
  • xvolution
    xvolution Posts: 721 Member
    I have to agree with the full thyroid panel if you're doing everything right and either at a plateau or actually gaining weight. I plan on getting one myself at my next doctor's visit, since even though I'm keeping calories down I'm actually gaining weight [yes, I'm weighing all my food and even keeping my calories below my current bmr]. The only things I can think of is hypothyroidism or iodine deficiency [I'm on a dairy and sodium restrictive diet, both of which are the main sources of iodine].
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    xvolution wrote: »
    I have to agree with the full thyroid panel if you're doing everything right and either at a plateau or actually gaining weight. I plan on getting one myself at my next doctor's visit, since even though I'm keeping calories down I'm actually gaining weight [yes, I'm weighing all my food and even keeping my calories below my current bmr]. The only things I can think of is hypothyroidism or iodine deficiency [I'm on a dairy and sodium restrictive diet, both of which are the main sources of iodine].

    I snooped your diary and doesn't look like you weigh everything. You use cups, weigh in ounces and a lot of your entries are exactly the same. You also have generic entries, are those your recipe built recipes? If you really do use a food scale, my apologies.

    If you are not losing you could eat just cut another 100 off your current daily intake, see that helps you a little.