Gym help

claire_bear1993
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Hi guys, was just wondering if there's any equipment at the gym that you normally use that helps with slimming down my thighs, legs and my arms? I've recently done the C9 cleanse and in total I've lost 8 pounds and I'm sticking to a healthy diet now but I want to know what can help my other parts slim down on my body?
I'm not really into doing weights and stuff just wanted to know what equipment is best for what my legs and arms to lose fat from. Thanks
I'm not really into doing weights and stuff just wanted to know what equipment is best for what my legs and arms to lose fat from. Thanks
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You can't spot reduce fat. All you can do is eat in a calorie deficit to continue to lose weight.
Lifting weights can be helpful to retain muscle mass and can improve the overall shape of your body - but it sounds like you aren't interested in that. Can I ask though - have you tried and decided you don't like it or you just don't like the idea of it?2 -
kathrynjean_ wrote: »You can't spot reduce fat. All you can do is eat in a calorie deficit to continue to lose weight.
Lifting weights can be helpful to retain muscle mass and can improve the overall shape of your body - but it sounds like you aren't interested in that. Can I ask though - have you tried and decided you don't like it or you just don't like the idea of it?
Agreed. There are some topical creams that promote fat mobilization. You rub them on the area you're trying to lose fat and go do cardio. The cream helps your body move the fatty acids from storage into your blood stream (making it easier to burn), but they aren't too too helpful. Best advice is to eat more protein, lift some weights (upper and lower body), and eat less calories than your body needs on a day-to-day basis.0 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »You can't spot reduce fat. All you can do is eat in a calorie deficit to continue to lose weight.
Lifting weights can be helpful to retain muscle mass and can improve the overall shape of your body - but it sounds like you aren't interested in that. Can I ask though - have you tried and decided you don't like it or you just don't like the idea of it?
Agreed. There are some topical creams that promote fat mobilization. You rub them on the area you're trying to lose fat and go do cardio. The cream helps your body move the fatty acids from storage into your blood stream (making it easier to burn), but they aren't too too helpful. Best advice is to eat more protein, lift some weights (upper and lower body), and eat less calories than your body needs on a day-to-day basis.
There's no topical substance which "promotes fat mobilization". There are many substances which make such ridiculous claims, but that's exactly what they are - ridiculous. Hopefully the OP won't fall for wasting her money on such snake oils and will take others' advice to continue eating at a caloric deficit to lose the fat.8 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »You can't spot reduce fat. All you can do is eat in a calorie deficit to continue to lose weight.
Lifting weights can be helpful to retain muscle mass and can improve the overall shape of your body - but it sounds like you aren't interested in that. Can I ask though - have you tried and decided you don't like it or you just don't like the idea of it?
Agreed. There are some topical creams that promote fat mobilization. You rub them on the area you're trying to lose fat and go do cardio. The cream helps your body move the fatty acids from storage into your blood stream (making it easier to burn), but they aren't too too helpful. Best advice is to eat more protein, lift some weights (upper and lower body), and eat less calories than your body needs on a day-to-day basis.
There's no topical substance which "promotes fat mobilization". There are many substances which make such ridiculous claims, but that's exactly what they are - ridiculous. Hopefully the OP won't fall for wasting her money on such snake oils and will take others' advice to continue eating at a caloric deficit to lose the fat.
There is, actually. Yohimbe cream has had some promising results. It won't contribute a large amount to weight loss (probably not worth the money), but it has shown to mobilize fatty acids when applied to the skin.0 -
Oh, and if anyone wants to claim that isn't science backed; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/158940381
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TravisGM92 wrote: »There is, actually. Yohimbe cream has had some promising results. It won't contribute a large amount to weight loss (probably not worth the money), but it has shown to mobilize fatty acids when applied to the skin.
Source?
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kathrynjean_ wrote: »TravisGM92 wrote: »There is, actually. Yohimbe cream has had some promising results. It won't contribute a large amount to weight loss (probably not worth the money), but it has shown to mobilize fatty acids when applied to the skin.
Source?
Check post above yours2 -
I wish there was a way to spot reduce...but nope!
And as I said before, the way these bogus cures are pitched, it surely must be possible - right?
Sorry, don't waste your time or money.
General, overall body fat reduction is the only way, and the last place the lard gathers is usually exactly where you'd most like it gone.
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Return2Fit wrote: »I wish there was a way to spot reduce...but nope!
And as I said before, the way these bogus cures are pitched, it surely must be possible - right?
Sorry, don't waste your time or money.
General, overall body fat reduction is the only way, and the last place the lard gathers is usually exactly where you'd most like it gone.
If a scientific study shows evidence of spot reduction, does that mean it's bogus as well?0 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »Oh, and if anyone wants to claim that isn't science backed; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15894038
This is one study with an incredibly small sample size. It's far from definitive - and also isn't talking about yohimbe cream, which you also mentioned?
I'd have to look at the methodology of the study in more depth than the abstract, but sure, it's an interesting finding. I just don't think that it's a worthwhile suggestion for the OP. She needs to focus on eating at a reasonable deficit.
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kathrynjean_ wrote: »TravisGM92 wrote: »Oh, and if anyone wants to claim that isn't science backed; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15894038
This is one study with an incredibly small sample size. It's far from definitive - and also isn't talking about yohimbe cream, which you also mentioned?
I'd have to look at the methodology of the study in more depth than the abstract, but sure, it's an interesting finding. I just don't think that it's a worthwhile suggestion for the OP. She needs to focus on eating at a reasonable deficit.
Which is what I said. I just wanted to bring doubt to the commonly held belief that spot reduction isn't possible. Yohimbe does what the glycyrrhetinic acid does in licorice.
"The cream helps your body move the fatty acids from storage into your blood stream (making it easier to burn), but they aren't too too helpful. Best advice is to eat more protein, lift some weights (upper and lower body), and eat less calories than your body needs on a day-to-day basis." -Me2 -
With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!2 -
kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Agreed.
OP, bottom line is continue to eat in a deficit and you'll lose fat all over.1 -
kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Why is that? She asked about spot reduction and I cited what I know about spot reduction. Yes, she asked about specific work outs that contribute to spot reduction and I cited a topical cream, but it's spot reduction regardless, right? I knew of a study that addressed spot reduction and I shared that with OP.
I'm honestly curious as to why you think it was inappropriate of me to cite that study.
And yes I agree!0 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Why is that? She asked about spot reduction and I cited what I know about spot reduction. Yes, she asked about specific work outs that contribute to spot reduction and I cited a topical cream, but it's spot reduction regardless, right? I knew of a study that addressed spot reduction and I shared that with OP.
I'm honestly curious as to why you think it was inappropriate of me to cite that study.
And yes I agree!
She asked about gym equipment. You posted about spot reduction creams that, by your own admission, are not "too too helpful." I don't see the point of posting about them.1 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Why is that? She asked about spot reduction and I cited what I know about spot reduction. Yes, she asked about specific work outs that contribute to spot reduction and I cited a topical cream, but it's spot reduction regardless, right? I knew of a study that addressed spot reduction and I shared that with OP.
I'm honestly curious as to why you think it was inappropriate of me to cite that study.
And yes I agree!
She asked about gym equipment. You posted about spot reduction creams that, by your own admission, are not "too too helpful." I don't see the point of posting about them.
Ahhh I see. Well, I decided to put that in there to dispel the myth that there's no such thing as spot reduction. I also wanted to include topical cream spot reduction in case the OP had not heard of it before. In my opinion, when it comes to weight loss (more specifically fat loss), I go at it with the "shotgun approach"; use any technique, method, diet, etc. that has scientific background to aid in your fat loss goals that work for you. Meaning, if you have the money to try the topical cream and test spot reduction methods, by all means, do it! Right?
I guess my point is; why withhold scientific information and/or tried-and-true methods if they work? Everyone's body is different and person A may get a better result compared to person B.
I like to use all information that I've ever heard to aid someone in their quest.0 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Why is that? She asked about spot reduction and I cited what I know about spot reduction. Yes, she asked about specific work outs that contribute to spot reduction and I cited a topical cream, but it's spot reduction regardless, right? I knew of a study that addressed spot reduction and I shared that with OP.
I'm honestly curious as to why you think it was inappropriate of me to cite that study.
And yes I agree!
Because the diet industry is full of quick fix scams that take vague results from one tiny barely conclusive study (if even that) and suck the money out of lots of desperate people's wallets. Why point her in the direction of one of those when there is just a slim remote chance it will have any effect? She just needs to keep losing the weight.
OP, you can't spot reduce, just keep doing what you're doing. All the diet products, workout rules, etc (including cleanses BTW) are just ways to get you to waste your money. What gets you results? You eating a well balanced diet at the correct calories, and exercise to keep you fit. Hang in there, and good luck!0 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Why is that? She asked about spot reduction and I cited what I know about spot reduction. Yes, she asked about specific work outs that contribute to spot reduction and I cited a topical cream, but it's spot reduction regardless, right? I knew of a study that addressed spot reduction and I shared that with OP.
I'm honestly curious as to why you think it was inappropriate of me to cite that study.
And yes I agree!
Because the diet industry is full of quick fix scams that take vague results from one tiny barely conclusive study (if even that) and suck the money out of lots of desperate people's wallets. Why point her in the direction of one of those when there is just a slim remote chance it will have any effect? She just needs to keep losing the weight.
OP, you can't spot reduce, just keep doing what you're doing. All the diet products, workout rules, etc (including cleanses BTW) are just ways to get you to waste your money. What gets you results? You eating a well balanced diet at the correct calories, and exercise to keep you fit. Hang in there, and good luck!
I didn't point her to the diet industry, though. I pointed her in the direction of science.0 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Why is that? She asked about spot reduction and I cited what I know about spot reduction. Yes, she asked about specific work outs that contribute to spot reduction and I cited a topical cream, but it's spot reduction regardless, right? I knew of a study that addressed spot reduction and I shared that with OP.
I'm honestly curious as to why you think it was inappropriate of me to cite that study.
And yes I agree!
She asked about gym equipment. You posted about spot reduction creams that, by your own admission, are not "too too helpful." I don't see the point of posting about them.
Ahhh I see. Well, I decided to put that in there to dispel the myth that there's no such thing as spot reduction. I also wanted to include topical cream spot reduction in case the OP had not heard of it before. In my opinion, when it comes to weight loss (more specifically fat loss), I go at it with the "shotgun approach"; use any technique, method, diet, etc. that has scientific background to aid in your fat loss goals that work for you. Meaning, if you have the money to try the topical cream and test spot reduction methods, by all means, do it! Right?
I guess my point is; why withhold scientific information and/or tried-and-true methods if they work? Everyone's body is different and person A may get a better result compared to person B.
I like to use all information that I've ever heard to aid someone in their quest.
One study from 10 years ago on 18 women isn't scientific proof that something works.
ETA: And it looks to me like the full details of the study are only available behind a pay wall.0 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »With respect, I disagree that based on the OP, that this was really an appropriate/useful thread to bring up that study. But, maybe that's just me. Seems like you would be interested in the Health and Fitness Debates forum though!
Cheers!
Why is that? She asked about spot reduction and I cited what I know about spot reduction. Yes, she asked about specific work outs that contribute to spot reduction and I cited a topical cream, but it's spot reduction regardless, right? I knew of a study that addressed spot reduction and I shared that with OP.
I'm honestly curious as to why you think it was inappropriate of me to cite that study.
And yes I agree!
She asked about gym equipment. You posted about spot reduction creams that, by your own admission, are not "too too helpful." I don't see the point of posting about them.
Ahhh I see. Well, I decided to put that in there to dispel the myth that there's no such thing as spot reduction. I also wanted to include topical cream spot reduction in case the OP had not heard of it before. In my opinion, when it comes to weight loss (more specifically fat loss), I go at it with the "shotgun approach"; use any technique, method, diet, etc. that has scientific background to aid in your fat loss goals that work for you. Meaning, if you have the money to try the topical cream and test spot reduction methods, by all means, do it! Right?
I guess my point is; why withhold scientific information and/or tried-and-true methods if they work? Everyone's body is different and person A may get a better result compared to person B.
I like to use all information that I've ever heard to aid someone in their quest.
One study from 10 years ago on 18 women isn't scientific proof that something works.
Didn't say it was "scientific proof". Again, I just wanted to put doubt in the belief that spot reduction isn't possible.
OP's question; Hi guys, was just wondering if there's any equipment at the gym that you normally use that helps with slimming down my thighs, legs and my arms?...
We assume: spot reduction with weights.
Summary of your answer: You (meaning people in general) can't spot reduce. Eat a balance diet and track calories.
Validity of your response: half and half. Science is showing (even if it's just one study so far) that it may be possible to spot reduce. Restricting calories has shown promise to help people lose weight.
Summary of my response: Spot reduction may be possible but not worth it. Instead, restrict caloric intake.
Validity of my response: much closer to full validity. Spot reduction may be possible. Is it worth it? My opinion, no. Does restricting calories help people lose weight? Seems so.
Where am I wrong?1 -
Most studies are available in full content after you pay. It supports the journals and companies who publish them.0
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People who are new to weight loss have enough to learn and work on without pinning their hopes on and getting confused by methods that have small chances of working. It's better to keep it simple. Just like using the 3500 calorie estimate for losing a pound rather than going into a calorie comparison for various tissue types. Completeness and usefulness are often not the same thing.6
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People who are new to weight loss have enough to learn and work on without pinning their hopes on and getting confused by methods that have small chances of working. It's better to keep it simple. Just like using the 3500 calorie estimate for losing a pound rather than going into a calorie comparison for various tissue types. Completeness and usefulness are often not the same thing.
That's a good point.0 -
Had never heard of 'yohimbe,' so I googled it and this 'popped up'
http://www.herbal-supplements-guide.com/yohimbe-cream.html
And this:
http://www.ebay.com/p/Yohimbe-Erection-Cream-Natural-Herbal-Stay-Hard-Penis-Enlarger-Enhancer-Sex-Lube/1400155495
And you're telling her to rub it *where?*1 -
Nvm0
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queenliz99 wrote: »
So the study lacks more subjects and evidence, what's your point? Not sure if you read these posts completely or just skim over them... The point I was making is that spot reduction can't be labeled as impossible. ONE study (one, yes, albeit it showed evidence) showed that it is theoretically possible to have spot reduction using this cream. Doesn't mean it's proven nor disproven. What it does is add doubt to the commonly held (often without any real evidence behind it) that spot reduction is impossible.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Had never heard of 'yohimbe,' so I googled it and this 'popped up'
http://www.herbal-supplements-guide.com/yohimbe-cream.html
And this:
http://www.ebay.com/p/Yohimbe-Erection-Cream-Natural-Herbal-Stay-Hard-Penis-Enlarger-Enhancer-Sex-Lube/1400155495
And you're telling her to rub it *where?*
Unfortunately the reviews aren't that solid.4 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Had never heard of 'yohimbe,' so I googled it and this 'popped up'
http://www.herbal-supplements-guide.com/yohimbe-cream.html
And this:
http://www.ebay.com/p/Yohimbe-Erection-Cream-Natural-Herbal-Stay-Hard-Penis-Enlarger-Enhancer-Sex-Lube/1400155495
And you're telling her to rub it *where?*
Unfortunately the reviews aren't that solid.
Well the studies do show some promise, but it's premature to go off half-cocked with them. Still, it certainly merits probing deeper into the subject matter, if academia chooses to rise to the occasion and firm up their end.2 -
TravisGM92 wrote: »TravisGM92 wrote: »kathrynjean_ wrote: »You can't spot reduce fat. All you can do is eat in a calorie deficit to continue to lose weight.
Lifting weights can be helpful to retain muscle mass and can improve the overall shape of your body - but it sounds like you aren't interested in that. Can I ask though - have you tried and decided you don't like it or you just don't like the idea of it?
Agreed. There are some topical creams that promote fat mobilization. You rub them on the area you're trying to lose fat and go do cardio. The cream helps your body move the fatty acids from storage into your blood stream (making it easier to burn), but they aren't too too helpful. Best advice is to eat more protein, lift some weights (upper and lower body), and eat less calories than your body needs on a day-to-day basis.
There's no topical substance which "promotes fat mobilization". There are many substances which make such ridiculous claims, but that's exactly what they are - ridiculous. Hopefully the OP won't fall for wasting her money on such snake oils and will take others' advice to continue eating at a caloric deficit to lose the fat.
There is, actually. Yohimbe cream has had some promising results. It won't contribute a large amount to weight loss (probably not worth the money), but it has shown to mobilize fatty acids when applied to the skin.
I've got some snake oil to sell you.1
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