Ketogenic diet, question
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hey everyone, so I've been reading up a lot on the Ketogenic diet. People seem to have great results real quick, now don't get me wrong, I'm generally a healthy eater and track everything I eat, avoid sugar, white carbs. I don't have any weight to lose, I'm at the lower end of my healthy weight range, however I still have some belly fat and fat around my hips to lose. Seeing the great results, I was thinking about trying the Keto diet for a short term (1-3months, depending how I feel +results). I'm only concerned about gaining the weight back once I'm off it, I still plan to continue my healthy eating tho. So, is it advisable, has anyone done it before?
Also I'm a vegetarian, who doesn't eat eggs, so do you think it's going to be extra difficult?
Would really appreciate if someone could help! Thanks.
Also I'm a vegetarian, who doesn't eat eggs, so do you think it's going to be extra difficult?
Would really appreciate if someone could help! Thanks.
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Your food choices make it more difficult. Write down on a piece of paper how you can get say 75g of protein with less than 30g of carbohydrate. If you can't figure that out then keto isn't for you. Cheese might be helpful.0
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I've just started on the Ketogenic WoE, and from everything I've read and the groups I am in. It isn't meant to be looked at as a diet. It is a way of eating. Though if you do go for it, then no there are ways to still get protein even as a vegetarian. I found a lot of the information that helped me from the ketodietapp.com/Blog. Hope that helps you at least a little and good luck.0
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FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »hey everyone, so I've been reading up a lot on the Ketogenic diet. People seem to have great results real quick, now don't get me wrong, I'm generally a healthy eater and track everything I eat, avoid sugar, white carbs. I don't have any weight to lose, I'm at the lower end of my healthy weight range, however I still have some belly fat and fat around my hips to lose. Seeing the great results, I was thinking about trying the Keto diet for a short term (1-3months, depending how I feel +results). I'm only concerned about gaining the weight back once I'm off it, I still plan to continue my healthy eating tho. So, is it advisable, has anyone done it before?
Also I'm a vegetarian, who doesn't eat eggs, so do you think it's going to be extra difficult?
Would really appreciate if someone could help! Thanks.
I'm a hare krishna, so no meat, fish or eggs for me, and I am on keto. Invest in a good quality protein powder and use that to make sure you get sufficient protein.
Also a question: what are the "results" you are after? I was after healing insulin resistance. Not weight loss per se. If you have fat to lose, I'd look into exercising to mobilize body fat. Granted, ketogenic eating seems to lead to easier mobilization of body fat. But as soon as you change your food pattern, the higher insulin will mean that reverses. How much is body specific.0 -
FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »hey everyone, so I've been reading up a lot on the Ketogenic diet. People seem to have great results real quick, now don't get me wrong, I'm generally a healthy eater and track everything I eat, avoid sugar, white carbs. I don't have any weight to lose, I'm at the lower end of my healthy weight range, however I still have some belly fat and fat around my hips to lose. Seeing the great results, I was thinking about trying the Keto diet for a short term (1-3months, depending how I feel +results). I'm only concerned about gaining the weight back once I'm off it, I still plan to continue my healthy eating tho. So, is it advisable, has anyone done it before?
Also I'm a vegetarian, who doesn't eat eggs, so do you think it's going to be extra difficult?
Would really appreciate if someone could help! Thanks.
I'm a hare krishna, so no meat, fish or eggs for me, and I am on keto. Invest in a good quality protein powder and use that to make sure you get sufficient protein.
Also a question: what are the "results" you are after? I was after healing insulin resistance. Not weight loss per se. If you have fat to lose, I'd look into exercising to mobilize body fat. Granted, ketogenic eating seems to lead to easier mobilization of body fat. But as soon as you change your food pattern, the higher insulin will mean that reverses. How much is body specific.
Hari Bol!
I'm looking into fat loss, not weight loss. I work out 5-6 times a week, HIIT 3-4 times and strength training 5 times. Gaining body fat back is what I'm mainly worried about, I would still continue to eat healthy, right now I'm eating about100g carbs0 -
LadyRaeyne wrote: »I've just started on the Ketogenic WoE, and from everything I've read and the groups I am in. It isn't meant to be looked at as a diet. It is a way of eating. Though if you do go for it, then no there are ways to still get protein even as a vegetarian. I found a lot of the information that helped me from the ketodietapp.com/Blog. Hope that helps you at least a little and good luck.
Thank you, I actually checked that link a couple of times, to figure out if it was possible for me to do keto at all.0 -
Your food choices make it more difficult. Write down on a piece of paper how you can get say 75g of protein with less than 30g of carbohydrate. If you can't figure that out then keto isn't for you. Cheese might be helpful.
That would be possible, I've done my research on it and if it would be possible for me to do, however I don't seem to find any information on how your body reacts after you stop this "diet" and eat moderate carbs and healthy meals.1 -
If you crank up the carbs you'll pick up some water weight so if you have a specific goal in mind then get a couple of pounds below that on keto and add in foods one at a time increasing carb intake by 5 g/day each week.0
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Doing Keto as a vegetarian who doesn't eat eggs can be a bit difficult but it's not impossible.
Can you consume other forms of dairy such as cheese or butter?
You can up your carb ceiling a bit and use NET carbs which takes the fibre out of the equation - and lots of veggies have fibre.
Avocados, nuts, cheese, butter, coconut oil, olive oil - sources of fats for you.
Olives and pickles for your sodium needs.
You may have to pick up a protein powder and mix it with almond or coconut milk for your protein.
Enjoy dark, leafy green vegetables for your potassium and magnesium needs.0 -
FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »Your food choices make it more difficult. Write down on a piece of paper how you can get say 75g of protein with less than 30g of carbohydrate. If you can't figure that out then keto isn't for you. Cheese might be helpful.
That would be possible, I've done my research on it and if it would be possible for me to do, however I don't seem to find any information on how your body reacts after you stop this "diet" and eat moderate carbs and healthy meals.
A ketogenic diet doesn't make you lose weight (actual weight) any quicker than any other diet of equivalent calories. There is no "metabolic advantage" to a keto diet. The "faster" weight loss is water/glycogen being depleted due to the low carbohydrate intake. If you stop eating keto and go back to a diet containing more carbs, you will regain a few pounds of water weight as the water/depleted glycogen stores are refilled (basically the same few pounds you lost quickly in the beginning as those stores were depleted).
Calories in/Calories out still applies to a keto diet, just like any other diet/way of eating. There's no magic to it.0 -
FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »Your food choices make it more difficult. Write down on a piece of paper how you can get say 75g of protein with less than 30g of carbohydrate. If you can't figure that out then keto isn't for you. Cheese might be helpful.
That would be possible, I've done my research on it and if it would be possible for me to do, however I don't seem to find any information on how your body reacts after you stop this "diet" and eat moderate carbs and healthy meals.
A ketogenic diet doesn't make you lose weight (actual weight) any quicker than any other diet of equivalent calories. There is no "metabolic advantage" to a keto diet. The "faster" weight loss is water/glycogen being depleted due to the low carbohydrate intake. If you stop eating keto and go back to a diet containing more carbs, you will regain a few pounds of water weight as the water/depleted glycogen stores are refilled (basically the same few pounds you lost quickly in the beginning as those stores were depleted).
Calories in/Calories out still applies to a keto diet, just like any other diet/way of eating. There's no magic to it.
I'm aware of the fact, that I'll still need to eat fewer calories to lose. However, since I'm only wanting to lose body fat and not body weight, I'm trying to look into something that'll work faster without leaving me too underweight. My height is 164cm and weight is at 50.5kg but I still have some belly fat to lose, so wondering if switching up my diet might help lose that faster since its a slow process, and I'm not losing as much fat as the amount of weight I'm losing0 -
FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »Your food choices make it more difficult. Write down on a piece of paper how you can get say 75g of protein with less than 30g of carbohydrate. If you can't figure that out then keto isn't for you. Cheese might be helpful.
That would be possible, I've done my research on it and if it would be possible for me to do, however I don't seem to find any information on how your body reacts after you stop this "diet" and eat moderate carbs and healthy meals.
A ketogenic diet doesn't make you lose weight (actual weight) any quicker than any other diet of equivalent calories. There is no "metabolic advantage" to a keto diet. The "faster" weight loss is water/glycogen being depleted due to the low carbohydrate intake. If you stop eating keto and go back to a diet containing more carbs, you will regain a few pounds of water weight as the water/depleted glycogen stores are refilled (basically the same few pounds you lost quickly in the beginning as those stores were depleted).
Calories in/Calories out still applies to a keto diet, just like any other diet/way of eating. There's no magic to it.
I'm aware of the fact, that I'll still need to eat fewer calories to lose. However, since I'm only wanting to lose body fat and not body weight, I'm trying to look into something that'll work faster without leaving me too underweight. My height is 164cm and weight is at 50.5kg but I still have some belly fat to lose, so wondering if switching up my diet might help lose that faster since its a slow process, and I'm not losing as much fat as the amount of weight I'm losing
A keto diet won't create spot reduction (i.e. target belly fat or any other specific area), nor will it work any faster than any other diet. Spot reduction isn't possible by either diet or exercise - how/where the fat comes off you is dictated by your genetics. For some people, the abdomen will be the last place they lose; in others, the thighs, and so forth. To maximize fat loss while preserving lean body mass/muscle, eat sufficient protein and engage in a good strength training program.0 -
FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »FitBrideToBe93 wrote: »Your food choices make it more difficult. Write down on a piece of paper how you can get say 75g of protein with less than 30g of carbohydrate. If you can't figure that out then keto isn't for you. Cheese might be helpful.
That would be possible, I've done my research on it and if it would be possible for me to do, however I don't seem to find any information on how your body reacts after you stop this "diet" and eat moderate carbs and healthy meals.
A ketogenic diet doesn't make you lose weight (actual weight) any quicker than any other diet of equivalent calories. There is no "metabolic advantage" to a keto diet. The "faster" weight loss is water/glycogen being depleted due to the low carbohydrate intake. If you stop eating keto and go back to a diet containing more carbs, you will regain a few pounds of water weight as the water/depleted glycogen stores are refilled (basically the same few pounds you lost quickly in the beginning as those stores were depleted).
Calories in/Calories out still applies to a keto diet, just like any other diet/way of eating. There's no magic to it.
I'm aware of the fact, that I'll still need to eat fewer calories to lose. However, since I'm only wanting to lose body fat and not body weight, I'm trying to look into something that'll work faster without leaving me too underweight. My height is 164cm and weight is at 50.5kg but I still have some belly fat to lose, so wondering if switching up my diet might help lose that faster since its a slow process, and I'm not losing as much fat as the amount of weight I'm losing
A keto diet won't create spot reduction (i.e. target belly fat or any other specific area), nor will it work any faster than any other diet. Spot reduction isn't possible by either diet or exercise - how/where the fat comes off you is dictated by your genetics. For some people, the abdomen will be the last place they lose; in others, the thighs, and so forth. To maximize fat loss while preserving lean body mass/muscle, eat sufficient protein and engage in a good strength training program.
This^^^. Have you read this sticky? http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1161603/so-you-want-a-nice-stomach0 -
I'm not sure why you would do this to lose weight. Just balance your diet and watch your calories. You need a specific "diet" to lose and maintain weight loss.0
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