Why weigh meat raw?

Shells918
Shells918 Posts: 1,070 Member
edited November 30 in Food and Nutrition
If I'm eating meat, I'm eating it cooked. To me it makes sense to weigh what I'm eating, rather than what I'm cooking. 4 oz of raw chicken cooks down to 3.8 oz. or 100 grams cooks down to 95. You get my drift. I've seen people say to weigh it raw but I don't get the reasoning behind it.

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  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    I weigh mine raw, because how long you cook it will change the final weight, along with any added juices. I feel it's more accurate, since there should be less variability in raw meat. However, if you are going to weight and log it cooked, make sure you choose the cooked entry. The calories per gram changes between the two states.
  • MelissaLimeKiwi
    MelissaLimeKiwi Posts: 121 Member
    There are so many entries for cooked chicken! I don't know what to put. I chose 85g for 120 calories. Does that seem accurate? Cooked in the crockpot in chicken broth.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,337 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    I weigh mine raw, because how long you cook it will change the final weight, along with any added juices. I feel it's more accurate, since there should be less variability in raw meat. However, if you are going to weight and log it cooked, make sure you choose the cooked entry. The calories per gram changes between the two states.

    Pretty much this. The decrease in the weight of meat is mainly water cooking out with a small amount of fat. Thus, that 4 ounces uncooked has pretty much the same calories as whatever it cooks down to since the water weight lost doesn't change the calories in the meat. Add to that the fact that depending on cooking time the amount of weight lost will vary, weighing raw makes much more sense.
  • markrgeary1
    markrgeary1 Posts: 853 Member
    Well for chicken OK.

    Beef I weigh it raw cause that's closest to how I eat it.☺
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    I weigh mine raw, because how long you cook it will change the final weight, along with any added juices. I feel it's more accurate, since there should be less variability in raw meat. However, if you are going to weight and log it cooked, make sure you choose the cooked entry. The calories per gram changes between the two states.

    Pretty much this. The decrease in the weight of meat is mainly water cooking out with a small amount of fat. Thus, that 4 ounces uncooked has pretty much the same calories as whatever it cooks down to since the water weight lost doesn't change the calories in the meat. Add to that the fact that depending on cooking time the amount of weight lost will vary, weighing raw makes much more sense.

    Exactly, and better explained than what I said!

    Another advantage to weighing raw is if you are making a mixed ingredient dish. Say a stir fry with beef. It's much easier to weigh each ingredient as it goes in.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    I hate handling raw meat, so I use the weight on the package.
  • atjays
    atjays Posts: 797 Member
    Because the nutrition facts on the package are for the meat "as is" which is raw. If you weigh your foods after cooking, at least in the case of meats, 4 oz of cooked meat is MORE calories than 4oz of raw meat. You end up over eating despite counting calories. So many people don't understand this
  • Shells918
    Shells918 Posts: 1,070 Member
    atjays wrote: »
    Because the nutrition facts on the package are for the meat "as is" which is raw. If you weigh your foods after cooking, at least in the case of meats, 4 oz of cooked meat is MORE calories than 4oz of raw meat. You end up over eating despite counting calories. So many people don't understand this

    Why is cooked meat more calories than raw if I haven't seasoned in any way?
  • Cynsonya
    Cynsonya Posts: 668 Member
    edited April 2016
    darlswife wrote: »
    atjays wrote: »
    Because the nutrition facts on the package are for the meat "as is" which is raw. If you weigh your foods after cooking, at least in the case of meats, 4 oz of cooked meat is MORE calories than 4oz of raw meat. You end up over eating despite counting calories. So many people don't understand this

    Why is cooked meat more calories than raw if I haven't seasoned in any way?

    Because if you eat 4oz of cooked meat it was heavier before you cooked it. Therefore, you actually ate a bigger serving if you used an entry that was originally for 4oz of raw meat. Which the majority are.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    darlswife wrote: »
    atjays wrote: »
    Because the nutrition facts on the package are for the meat "as is" which is raw. If you weigh your foods after cooking, at least in the case of meats, 4 oz of cooked meat is MORE calories than 4oz of raw meat. You end up over eating despite counting calories. So many people don't understand this

    Why is cooked meat more calories than raw if I haven't seasoned in any way?

    Because the meat loses water when you cook it, and water is heavy.
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    edited April 2016
    darlswife wrote: »
    atjays wrote: »
    Because the nutrition facts on the package are for the meat "as is" which is raw. If you weigh your foods after cooking, at least in the case of meats, 4 oz of cooked meat is MORE calories than 4oz of raw meat. You end up over eating despite counting calories. So many people don't understand this

    Why is cooked meat more calories than raw if I haven't seasoned in any way?

    Cooked meat is more calories per oz or gram.

    Let's say you have a 3 oz chicken thigh. According to the USDA, raw chicken thigh has 67 cals per oz, so your 3 oz raw is 201 calories. No matter how much you cook it, it will still have pretty much 201 calories.

    But as you cook it, it gets smaller. So if you cook it till it's just barely done and weigh it, you'll only log 2.5 oz. If you cook it a bit longer, it's 2 oz. If you cook it till it's dry, you'll log 1.75 oz. So it's the same 201 calories, but less ounces.

    If you choose a "cooked" entry, how do you know they cooked it to the same degree you did? In addition to that, if you're cooking the meat in a sauce, it may or may not have absorbed some of the liquid. How do you know how much of the final weight of your cooked chicken is actually the sauce, which has a totally different profile?

    You don't have to worry about all those variations if you weigh it raw. Raw is pretty much raw.

    There are obviously times when you don't have a choice and you weigh meat cooked. Then just make sure you pick a "cooked" entry. And I'm sure there are plenty of people who always log cooked and it works fine for them. But raw weight is the most likely to be accurate.
  • Shells918
    Shells918 Posts: 1,070 Member
    I always pick a cooked entry for meat. I wouldn't pick raw anything if it was cooked, including vegetables.

    And if I cook in a sauce I weigh/measure that too, usually making it a recipe so it's all included.

    This has been an interesting topic. In all of my experience of dieting I never came across this before. Thanks everyone for responding.
  • AigreDoux
    AigreDoux Posts: 594 Member
    I almost always weigh cooked and use cooked entries. It is simpler since I am cooking for a family. It more of a pain to cut off 5 oz of the 2 lb salmon filet and cook it separately from the rest.

    I use raw entries when I make a recipe.
  • perkymommy
    perkymommy Posts: 1,642 Member
    I've always weighed after cooking it. Did it 10 years ago when I got my goal too. Not weighing meat raw unless it's eaten that way. ;-)
  • perkymommy
    perkymommy Posts: 1,642 Member
    AigreDoux wrote: »
    I almost always weigh cooked and use cooked entries. It is simpler since I am cooking for a family. It more of a pain to cut off 5 oz of the 2 lb salmon filet and cook it separately from the rest.

    I use raw entries when I make a recipe.

    Yep. Only time I weigh it raw as well
  • Packergal27
    Packergal27 Posts: 11 Member
    OK, I've read through all of these, and I'm still confused! I had a homemade cheeseburger for dinner. It was made with 80/20 ground beef, grilled on a charcoal grill, cooked to medium. The exact weight of the raw patty (I weighed it on my food scale) was 3.8 oz. So how many ounces would it be cooked? I watched a video of a guy who pan-browned a pound of beef, and the pound lost 25% of its weight after cooking. Should I just figure a 25% weight loss? Thanks for any help you can give me?
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,344 Member
    OK, I've read through all of these, and I'm still confused! I had a homemade cheeseburger for dinner. It was made with 80/20 ground beef, grilled on a charcoal grill, cooked to medium. The exact weight of the raw patty (I weighed it on my food scale) was 3.8 oz. So how many ounces would it be cooked? I watched a video of a guy who pan-browned a pound of beef, and the pound lost 25% of its weight after cooking. Should I just figure a 25% weight loss? Thanks for any help you can give me?

    If you weigh it raw, and then take off 25% for weight lost, it won't be accurate as much of the weight lost is water weight, so the calories are still there, it's just more dehydrated. Either log the raw weight, or weigh it cooked and find an entry that's specifically for cooked.
  • valerialeek
    valerialeek Posts: 65 Member
    I couldn't possibly cook something I might not eat and chuck
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    OK, I've read through all of these, and I'm still confused! I had a homemade cheeseburger for dinner. It was made with 80/20 ground beef, grilled on a charcoal grill, cooked to medium. The exact weight of the raw patty (I weighed it on my food scale) was 3.8 oz. So how many ounces would it be cooked? I watched a video of a guy who pan-browned a pound of beef, and the pound lost 25% of its weight after cooking. Should I just figure a 25% weight loss? Thanks for any help you can give me?

    It makes no difference what it weighs at the end. The calories for the raw patty is what you would log and use as the calories consumed.
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